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arxiv: 0905.0526 · v3 · pith:RND4ONC6new · submitted 2009-05-05 · 🧮 math.LO

Nonproper Products

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keywords forcingsproperborelconditioncreaturedefinitionensuringexist
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We show that there exist two proper creature forcings having a simple (Borel) definition, whose product is not proper. We also give a new condition ensuring properness of some forcings with norms.

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