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arxiv: 1907.09190 · v1 · pith:DURKSTZQnew · submitted 2019-07-22 · 💻 cs.CL

ELI5: Long Form Question Answering

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classification 💻 cs.CL
keywords long-form question answeringELI5abstractive QAmulti-task learningReddit datasetgenerative question answeringopen-ended QA
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The pith

An abstractive model trained with a multi-task objective outperforms Seq2Seq, language modeling, and extractive baselines on the new ELI5 long-form QA task.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper introduces ELI5, the first large-scale corpus of 270,000 Reddit threads in which community members supply elaborate, multi-sentence answers to open-ended questions. It also supplies a large collection of web documents as supporting context for each question. The authors demonstrate that an abstractive model optimized jointly for question answering and language modeling produces answers that automatic metrics and human raters judge superior to those from standard sequence-to-sequence models, pure language models, and strong extractive systems that copy sentences from the documents. Even the best model remains far from human performance, with raters preferring the original gold answers in more than 86 percent of cases. The work therefore supplies both a new benchmark task and an initial modeling approach for generating in-depth rather than short factual responses.

Core claim

The ELI5 corpus of 270K Reddit threads, each paired with web documents, defines a long-form question answering task that requires generating elaborate multi-sentence answers; an abstractive model trained with a multi-task objective combining QA and language modeling outperforms conventional Seq2Seq, language modeling, and strong extractive baselines on both automatic and human evaluations of this task.

What carries the argument

The multi-task abstractive model that generates answers by attending to the question and retrieved documents while also optimizing a language modeling objective.

If this is right

  • Long-form QA benefits from abstractive generation that synthesizes information across documents rather than extraction alone.
  • A joint QA and language modeling objective improves answer quality on this task compared with single-objective training.
  • Current models remain substantially below human performance, leaving clear headroom for architectural or training advances.
  • The ELI5 corpus and accompanying documents can serve as training data for models that produce multi-sentence explanatory answers.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If ELI5 threads prove non-representative, the performance gap between abstractive and extractive methods may shrink or reverse on other question distributions.
  • The gap to human answers suggests that future systems will need mechanisms for deeper reasoning or knowledge integration beyond what the current multi-task setup supplies.
  • The dataset format could be adapted to test whether retrieval quality or document length limits further gains in answer coherence.

Load-bearing premise

Threads from the single Reddit forum ELI5 constitute a representative and sufficiently diverse large-scale corpus for the general long-form question answering task.

What would settle it

Evaluation of the same multi-task abstractive model on a long-form QA dataset drawn from a different domain or user population where it no longer outperforms the Seq2Seq, language modeling, and extractive baselines.

read the original abstract

We introduce the first large-scale corpus for long-form question answering, a task requiring elaborate and in-depth answers to open-ended questions. The dataset comprises 270K threads from the Reddit forum ``Explain Like I'm Five'' (ELI5) where an online community provides answers to questions which are comprehensible by five year olds. Compared to existing datasets, ELI5 comprises diverse questions requiring multi-sentence answers. We provide a large set of web documents to help answer the question. Automatic and human evaluations show that an abstractive model trained with a multi-task objective outperforms conventional Seq2Seq, language modeling, as well as a strong extractive baseline. However, our best model is still far from human performance since raters prefer gold responses in over 86% of cases, leaving ample opportunity for future improvement.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper introduces the ELI5 dataset comprising 270K Reddit threads for long-form question answering, supplies associated web documents, and reports that an abstractive model trained with a multi-task objective outperforms Seq2Seq, language-modeling, and extractive baselines on automatic metrics and human evaluations on this corpus, while noting that raters still prefer gold answers in over 86% of cases.

Significance. If the results hold, the work provides the first large-scale benchmark specifically targeting elaborate multi-sentence answers, addressing a clear gap relative to existing short-answer QA resources. The multi-task abstractive approach and the released web-document collection constitute concrete, reusable contributions that can support retrieval-augmented generation research. The explicit gap to human performance supplies a clear, falsifiable target for subsequent work.

major comments (2)
  1. [§5] §5 (Experiments) and the human-evaluation protocol: the claim of outperformance and the 86% gold preference figure are load-bearing for the central result, yet the section provides no information on the number of raters, their selection criteria, inter-rater agreement, or statistical tests comparing model outputs; without these the robustness of the preference ordering cannot be verified.
  2. [§4] §4 (Models) and §3 (Dataset): the multi-task objective is presented as the source of improvement, but no ablation isolating the contribution of the auxiliary task versus simply training on more data is reported; this directly affects whether the stated superiority of the multi-task abstractive model is attributable to the claimed modeling choice.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Table 1] Table 1 and §3.2: the train/dev/test split sizes and any filtering criteria applied to the 270K threads should be stated explicitly so that future work can reproduce the exact evaluation setting.
  2. [§2] §2 (Related Work): the comparison to prior long-form QA resources would benefit from a brief quantitative table (e.g., average answer length, question type diversity) rather than qualitative description alone.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for the positive evaluation and the recommendation for minor revision. The comments highlight important points for improving the clarity and verifiability of our results. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly.

read point-by-point responses
  1. Referee: [§5] §5 (Experiments) and the human-evaluation protocol: the claim of outperformance and the 86% gold preference figure are load-bearing for the central result, yet the section provides no information on the number of raters, their selection criteria, inter-rater agreement, or statistical tests comparing model outputs; without these the robustness of the preference ordering cannot be verified.

    Authors: We agree that the human evaluation details are insufficiently described. In the revised manuscript we will expand §5 to report the number of raters, their selection criteria and qualifications, inter-rater agreement (e.g., Fleiss' kappa), and the statistical tests used to compare model outputs against each other and against gold answers. These additions will allow readers to assess the robustness of the reported preference ordering. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§4] §4 (Models) and §3 (Dataset): the multi-task objective is presented as the source of improvement, but no ablation isolating the contribution of the auxiliary task versus simply training on more data is reported; this directly affects whether the stated superiority of the multi-task abstractive model is attributable to the claimed modeling choice.

    Authors: The referee correctly notes the absence of a direct ablation. While the multi-task model is compared against single-task Seq2Seq and LM baselines trained on the same ELI5 data, an explicit control that adds equivalent extra data without the auxiliary objective is not present. In the revision we will add such an ablation experiment to isolate the contribution of the multi-task loss from the effect of additional training signal. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity detected; empirical results on newly introduced dataset

full rationale

The paper's central claim is an empirical comparison: an abstractive multi-task model outperforms Seq2Seq, LM, and extractive baselines on the ELI5 corpus (270K Reddit threads). No equations, derivations, or fitted parameters are presented that reduce reported performance metrics to quantities defined inside the paper itself. The dataset definition and evaluation protocol are external to any modeling assumptions that would create self-definition or fitted-input-called-prediction circularity. Self-citations, if present, are not load-bearing for any uniqueness theorem or ansatz that forces the result. The derivation chain is self-contained against external benchmarks (human preference, automatic metrics on held-out threads).

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on the representativeness of a single online forum as a proxy for long-form QA and on the assumption that the supplied web documents are relevant and sufficient for the questions; no new physical constants or invented entities are introduced.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Reddit ELI5 threads form a suitable large-scale, diverse corpus for long-form question answering that generalizes beyond the forum
    Invoked by the decision to collect and release the dataset as the primary contribution

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