Control of dynamical phase transitions and non-ergodic relaxation via spinor phases
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The pith
Extracting spinor phase evolution from population dynamics defines an order parameter that identifies dynamical phase transitions.
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Core claim
Utilizing ultracold spinor gases as large-scale many-body quantum simulation platforms, we establish a toolbox for the precise control, characterization, and detection of nonequilibrium dynamics via internal spinor phases. We develop a method to extract the phase evolution from the observed spin population dynamics, allowing us to define an order parameter that sharply identifies dynamical phase transitions over a wide range of conditions. This work also demonstrates a technique for inferring spin-dependent interactions from a single experimental time trace, in contrast to the standard approach that requires mapping a cross section of the phase diagram. Additionally, we demonstrate access to
What carries the argument
Method that extracts internal spinor phase evolution from observed spin population dynamics to define an order parameter for dynamical phase transitions.
Load-bearing premise
Spin population dynamics directly encode the internal spinor phase evolution without significant contributions from decoherence, higher-order interactions, or experimental imperfections.
What would settle it
Independent phase measurement that disagrees with the phase extracted from populations, or an order parameter that fails to mark known transitions when controlled decoherence is added.
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Utilizing ultracold spinor gases as large-scale, many-body quantum simulation platforms, we establish a toolbox for the precise control, characterization, and detection of nonequilibrium dynamics via internal spinor phases. We develop a method to extract the phase evolution from the observed spin population dynamics, allowing us to define an order parameter that sharply identifies dynamical phase transitions over a wide range of conditions. This work also demonstrates a technique for inferring spin-dependent interactions from a single experimental time trace, in contrast to the standard approach that requires mapping a cross section of the phase diagram, with immediate applications to systems experiencing complex time-dependent interactions. Additionally, we demonstrate experimental access to and control over non-ergodic relaxation dynamics, where states of similar energy in the (nominally) thermal region of the energy spectrum retain a dependence on the initial state, via the manipulation of spinor phases, enabling the study of non-ergodic thermalization dynamics connected to quantum scarring.
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper develops a method to extract the time evolution of internal spinor phases by inverting observed spin-population dynamics in ultracold spinor gases. This extracted phase is used to construct an order parameter that sharply locates dynamical phase transitions across a range of conditions. The work further shows that spin-dependent interaction strengths can be inferred from a single experimental time trace and demonstrates experimental control of non-ergodic relaxation dynamics by manipulating the initial spinor phases.
Significance. If the extraction procedure is robust, the approach supplies a practical toolbox for characterizing and controlling nonequilibrium many-body dynamics in quantum simulators. The single-trace inference of interactions is a clear practical advance over conventional cross-section mapping of the phase diagram. Experimental access to non-ergodic relaxation and its connection to quantum scarring is a notable strength that opens concrete routes to studying scarring and weak ergodicity breaking.
major comments (2)
- [Methods / phase-extraction section] The phase-extraction procedure (described in the methods and illustrated in the main figures) inverts population oscillations under the assumption that the dynamics are governed solely by the quadratic Zeeman shift and the spin-dependent contact interaction. No quantitative test is presented against simulated decoherence, magnetic-field fluctuations, or three-body losses that would produce additional population transfer; such unmodeled processes would be misattributed to phase winding and could shift or blur the reported order-parameter jumps at the dynamical transition points.
- [Results on dynamical phase transitions] The claim that the order parameter 'sharply identifies' dynamical phase transitions rests on the extracted phase being faithful to the underlying spinor evolution. The manuscript provides no error propagation, comparison to exact diagonalization for small systems, or robustness checks against the weakest assumption (closed-system dynamics), which is load-bearing for the central result.
minor comments (2)
- [Figure captions] Figure captions should explicitly state the fitting window, the functional form used for the phase inversion, and the experimental parameters (magnetic field, atom number, trap frequencies) for each time trace.
- [Notation] Notation for the relative phases between m_F components and the definition of the order parameter should be introduced once and used consistently in both text and equations.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive feedback on our manuscript. The comments raise valid points about the robustness of the phase-extraction procedure and supporting evidence for the order parameter. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript to incorporate the suggested analyses.
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Referee: [Methods / phase-extraction section] The phase-extraction procedure (described in the methods and illustrated in the main figures) inverts population oscillations under the assumption that the dynamics are governed solely by the quadratic Zeeman shift and the spin-dependent contact interaction. No quantitative test is presented against simulated decoherence, magnetic-field fluctuations, or three-body losses that would produce additional population transfer; such unmodeled processes would be misattributed to phase winding and could shift or blur the reported order-parameter jumps at the dynamical transition points.
Authors: We agree that quantitative tests against unmodeled processes would strengthen the presentation of the phase-extraction method. Although the coherent dynamics in the reported experiments are dominated by the quadratic Zeeman shift and spin-dependent contact interactions, we will add a dedicated subsection to the Methods section containing numerical simulations that incorporate phenomenological decoherence, Gaussian magnetic-field fluctuations, and three-body loss rates calibrated to typical experimental values. These simulations will show that the extracted phases and order-parameter features remain stable for noise amplitudes below those present in the data, thereby addressing the concern that such effects could be misattributed to phase winding. revision: yes
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Referee: [Results on dynamical phase transitions] The claim that the order parameter 'sharply identifies' dynamical phase transitions rests on the extracted phase being faithful to the underlying spinor evolution. The manuscript provides no error propagation, comparison to exact diagonalization for small systems, or robustness checks against the weakest assumption (closed-system dynamics), which is load-bearing for the central result.
Authors: We acknowledge that additional validation would make the central claim more robust. In the revised manuscript we will include a quantitative error-propagation analysis that propagates experimental uncertainties in the measured populations through the inversion procedure to the extracted phase and order parameter. We will also add comparisons of the phase-extraction method against exact diagonalization for small, few-mode spinor systems where such calculations are feasible, as well as robustness checks that introduce controlled violations of the closed-system assumption (e.g., weak loss channels) and demonstrate that the locations of the dynamical transitions remain identifiable. These results will be presented in the Results section and the Methods. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity in phase extraction or order parameter definition
full rationale
The central method extracts phase evolution directly from observed spin population dynamics using the known spinor Hamiltonian terms (quadratic Zeeman and spin-dependent interactions) to define an order parameter for dynamical phase transitions. This is presented as a data-driven inversion grounded in experimental time traces, with no reduction by construction to fitted inputs, self-definitional loops, or load-bearing self-citations. The derivation chain remains self-contained against external benchmarks of ultracold spinor dynamics, consistent with the abstract's description of a toolbox for control and detection without invoking uniqueness theorems or ansatze from prior author work as the sole justification.
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We develop a method to extract the phase evolution from the observed spin population dynamics, allowing us to define an order parameter that sharply identifies dynamical phase transitions
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the spin dynamics can be described by ρmF, the magnetization M, and a single relative phase θ by the mean-field Hamiltonian
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