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arxiv: 2205.13336 · v1 · submitted 2022-05-26 · 🧮 math.GR · math.CT· math.RA

Actions of pro-groups and pro-rings

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keywords pro-groupsinternal actionssemi-abelian categoriespro-ringsPro(Set)Lie algebrasgroup objects
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Internal actions in the categories of pro-groups and non-unital pro-rings admit explicit descriptions as actions of group objects and ring objects in Pro(Set).

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The paper establishes an explicit description of internal actions inside the semi-abelian categories of pro-groups and non-unital pro-rings. These descriptions are given in terms of ordinary actions of group objects and ring objects living in the pro-category Pro(Set) and certain related categories. The same style of description does not work for Lie algebras. A reader would care because pro-objects arise naturally as inverse limits in topology and algebra, so concrete descriptions of their actions simplify computations that would otherwise stay at the level of abstract category theory.

Core claim

Internal actions in the semi-abelian categories of pro-groups and non-unital pro-rings are equivalent to actions of group objects and ring objects in Pro(Set) and related categories; the analogous statement fails for Lie algebras.

What carries the argument

The standard notion of internal action in a semi-abelian category, realized concretely via actions of group and ring objects in Pro(Set).

If this is right

  • Actions of pro-groups reduce to actions of ordinary group objects inside Pro(Set).
  • Actions of non-unital pro-rings reduce to actions of ordinary ring objects inside Pro(Set).
  • The reduction technique does not extend to the category of Lie algebras.
  • The same explicit descriptions apply in certain related pro-categories.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The result supplies a practical way to compute fixed-point sets or orbits for inverse systems of groups without staying inside the abstract semi-abelian setting.
  • Failure for Lie algebras suggests that the semi-abelian property alone is not always sufficient for such reductions when the underlying algebraic structure is non-associative.
  • The technique may transfer to other pro-categories that are semi-abelian, such as pro-modules over a pro-ring.

Load-bearing premise

The categories of pro-groups and non-unital pro-rings are semi-abelian, so the usual theory of internal actions applies directly.

What would settle it

An explicit internal action of a pro-group whose corresponding action of a group object in Pro(Set) fails to satisfy the internal-action axioms, or vice versa.

read the original abstract

We give an explicit description of internal actions in the semi-abelian categories of pro-groups and non-unital pro-rings in terms of actions of group objects and ring objects in $\mathrm{Pro}(\mathbf{Set})$, as well as in some related categories. Also, we show that a similar result fails for Lie algebras.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper claims to give an explicit description of internal actions in the semi-abelian categories of pro-groups and non-unital pro-rings, expressed in terms of actions of group objects and ring objects in Pro(Set) (and related categories), together with a counter-example showing that an analogous result fails for Lie algebras.

Significance. If the derivation holds, the result supplies a concrete reduction of internal actions in these pro-categories to actions already visible in the pro-completion of sets. This is useful for explicit computations in profinite settings and clarifies the scope of the standard internal-action theory in semi-abelian categories. The counter-example for Lie algebras is constructed directly and isolates the special role played by the group and ring structures.

minor comments (2)
  1. [§2] §2: the verification that Pro preserves the relevant exactness conditions for semi-abelianness is stated by reduction to the base category; a one-sentence pointer to the relevant limit-preservation fact would make the argument self-contained for readers outside category theory.
  2. [§5] §5: the Lie-algebra counter-example is given by direct construction; adding a short diagram of the failing action diagram would improve readability without lengthening the section.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading of the manuscript, the positive summary, and the recommendation to accept. No major comments were raised in the report.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity detected

full rationale

The derivation establishes semi-abelianness of the pro-categories by reduction to the base categories of groups/rings plus the fact that Pro preserves finite limits and exactness conditions (stated in introduction and §2). The explicit description of internal actions is then obtained in §3–4 by direct unwinding of the internal-hom and action diagrams in Pro(Set). The counter-example for Lie algebras in §5 is constructed independently. No load-bearing step reduces by the paper's own equations to a fitted parameter, self-citation chain, or renamed input; the central claim remains independent of its own outputs.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

Only the abstract is available; no free parameters, invented entities, or non-standard axioms are mentioned. The work rests on the standard definition of semi-abelian category and the usual notion of internal action.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption The categories of pro-groups and non-unital pro-rings are semi-abelian
    Invoked by the abstract when it states the setting in which internal actions are described.

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