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arxiv: 2512.09484 · v2 · submitted 2025-12-10 · 💻 cs.FL

Unambiguisability and Register Minimisation of Min-Plus Models

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keywords unambiguisabilitymin-plus automataweighted automatacost register automatadecidabilitycounter minimisationtropical semiring
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Unambiguisability for min-plus weighted automata is decidable by reduction to determinisability.

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The paper shows that it is possible to decide whether a given min-plus weighted automaton has an equivalent unambiguous version. The proof works by constructing a reduction to the determinisability problem, which had already been shown decidable. This settles a longstanding open question for the tropical semiring. On the other side, the paper proves that minimizing the number of counters in the equivalent cost register automaton model is undecidable, and the undecidability already holds when the number of registers is fixed at seven. A reader would care because these models describe quantitative properties of systems, and removing nondeterminism or registers affects what properties can be checked algorithmically.

Core claim

We show that WFA unambiguisability is decidable via reduction to WFA determinisability. On the negative side, we show that CRA counter minimisation is undecidable, even for a fixed number of registers (specifically, already for 7 registers).

What carries the argument

The reduction from the unambiguisability question to the determinisability question for min-plus weighted automata.

Load-bearing premise

The reduction from unambiguisability to determinisability correctly preserves the existence of an equivalent unambiguous automaton, and the prior decidability result for determinisability applies without additional restrictions on the min-plus semiring.

What would settle it

An explicit min-plus automaton for which the constructed reduction instance is determinisable but the original automaton has no equivalent unambiguous version, or vice versa.

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We study the unambiguisability problem for min-plus (tropical) weighted automata (WFAs), and the counter-minimisation problem for tropical Cost Register Automata (CRAs), which are expressively-equivalent to WFAs. Both problems ask whether the "amount of nondeterminism" in the model can be reduced. We show that WFA unambiguisability is decidable, thus resolving this long-standing open problem. Our proof is via reduction to WFA determinisability, which was recently shown to be decidable. On the negative side, we show that CRA counter minimisation is undecidable, even for a fixed number of registers (specifically, already for 7 registers).

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper studies unambiguisability for min-plus weighted finite automata (WFAs) and counter-minimisation for equivalent tropical cost register automata (CRAs). It claims that WFA unambiguisability is decidable via a reduction to the recently shown decidable WFA determinisability problem, and that CRA counter minimisation is undecidable even when restricted to a fixed number of 7 registers.

Significance. Resolving the long-standing open problem of deciding unambiguisability for min-plus WFAs would be a significant contribution to automata theory over semirings. The positive result is obtained by a clean reduction to an externally established decidability result, which is a strength when the mapping is verified. The negative result on fixed-register CRAs provides a concrete bound that sharpens the computational complexity picture for register minimisation. If the reduction is shown to preserve equivalence under the idempotent min-plus operations, the work advances the decidability landscape for tropical models.

major comments (2)
  1. [Proof of decidability theorem (reduction construction)] The reduction from unambiguisability to determinisability (proof of the main positive theorem) must explicitly confirm preservation of equivalence for the min-plus semiring (R∪{∞}, min, +). The construction mapping WFA A to WFA B such that A is unambiguous iff B is determinizable should include a lemma verifying that multiple equal-weight accepting paths are encoded without introducing spurious nondeterminism or altering tropical sums, as unique path decomposition properties do not hold under idempotent addition.
  2. [Undecidability result for fixed registers] The undecidability reduction for CRA counter minimisation with exactly 7 registers requires a detailed encoding from the source undecidable problem (e.g., a register-machine halting problem or PCP variant). The manuscript should specify how register updates are restricted to min-plus operations while staying within the fixed register bound, to ensure the reduction does not implicitly rely on additional registers or non-tropical operations.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and introduction] The abstract states the undecidability holds 'already for 7 registers'; consider repeating this concrete bound in the introduction to emphasize the result's strength.
  2. [Preliminaries] Notation for the min-plus semiring and CRA register updates should be introduced with a short table or example in §2 to aid readers unfamiliar with tropical automata.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their thorough review and valuable suggestions. We address the major comments below and plan to revise the manuscript accordingly to incorporate the requested clarifications.

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  1. Referee: [Proof of decidability theorem (reduction construction)] The reduction from unambiguisability to determinisability (proof of the main positive theorem) must explicitly confirm preservation of equivalence for the min-plus semiring (R∪{∞}, min, +). The construction mapping WFA A to WFA B such that A is unambiguous iff B is determinizable should include a lemma verifying that multiple equal-weight accepting paths are encoded without introducing spurious nondeterminism or altering tropical sums, as unique path decomposition properties do not hold under idempotent addition.

    Authors: We agree that the reduction requires an explicit lemma to confirm preservation under the min-plus semiring. The current manuscript outlines the construction in Section 3, but to address this, we will add Lemma 3.4 in the revised version. This lemma will verify that the mapping from WFA A to B preserves the property that A has multiple equal-weight accepting paths if and only if B has nondeterministic choices leading to the same min-weight, without introducing spurious paths. Since the semiring is idempotent, the min operation ensures that equal weights do not alter the sum, and the encoding uses state duplication to track path uniqueness without extra nondeterminism. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Undecidability result for fixed registers] The undecidability reduction for CRA counter minimisation with exactly 7 registers requires a detailed encoding from the source undecidable problem (e.g., a register-machine halting problem or PCP variant). The manuscript should specify how register updates are restricted to min-plus operations while staying within the fixed register bound, to ensure the reduction does not implicitly rely on additional registers or non-tropical operations.

    Authors: We appreciate this comment and will provide more details on the reduction. The proof in Section 4 reduces from the Post Correspondence Problem (PCP), which is undecidable. We will expand the description to show explicitly how each PCP tile is simulated using min-plus operations on exactly 7 registers: two for tracking the current string lengths or positions, and others for encoding the choices and matches via min and additions of constants. All updates are of the form r := min(r, r + c) or similar, staying within the tropical semiring, and no extra registers are introduced. This ensures the reduction is valid for the fixed bound of 7. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; claims rest on external decidability and standard reductions.

full rationale

The paper proves decidability of WFA unambiguisability via a reduction to the decidability of WFA determinisability (cited as recently established in prior independent work) and proves undecidability of CRA counter minimisation via reduction from a known undecidable problem. No quoted step in the provided abstract or description reduces a central claim by construction to the paper's own fitted parameters, self-definitions, or unverified self-citations. The derivation chain is self-contained against external benchmarks and does not exhibit any of the enumerated circular patterns.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The positive result rests on the external fact that WFA determinisability is decidable; the negative result rests on standard undecidability reductions from known undecidable problems in automata theory. No free parameters or invented entities are introduced.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption WFA determinisability is decidable
    Invoked as the target of the reduction; cited as recently shown decidable.

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