Ada2MS: A Hybrid Optimization Algorithm Based on Exponential Mixing of Elementwise and Global Second-Moment Estimates
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Ada2MS uses exponential interpolation between elementwise and global second-moment estimates to transition between AdamW and momentum SGD behaviors.
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Core claim
Ada2MS achieves a smooth transition between AdamW-like behavior and momentum-SGD-like behavior through continuous exponential interpolation between elementwise second-moment estimates and global second-moment estimates, obtaining competitive results on the visual tasks evaluated.
What carries the argument
The exponential mixing mechanism between elementwise second-moment estimates and global second-moment estimates, which enables the smooth behavioral transition from per-parameter adaptation to global scaling.
Load-bearing premise
A single exponential mixing schedule between elementwise and global second moments will reliably combine the generalization benefits of momentum SGD with the stability of AdamW across the tested visual tasks without introducing new instabilities.
What would settle it
An experiment showing that on the evaluated visual tasks, Ada2MS performs significantly worse than both AdamW and momentum SGD, or requires per-task retuning of the mixing parameter to achieve competitive results.
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Optimization algorithms are core methods by which machine learning models iteratively minimize loss functions, update parameters, learn from data, and improve performance. Momentum SGD and AdamW represent two important optimization paradigms. AdamW produces stable updates and usually has strong robustness across training scenarios, but its generalization performance is sometimes weaker than that of momentum methods. Momentum SGD can often obtain better generalization after careful tuning, but it is more sensitive to gradient-scale variation and hyperparameter settings. To balance the strengths and weaknesses of the two paradigms, this paper proposes Ada2MS, an optimization algorithm that achieves a smooth transition between AdamW-like behavior and momentum-SGD-like behavior through continuous exponential interpolation between elementwise second-moment estimates and global second-moment estimates. On the visual tasks evaluated in this study, Ada2MS obtains competitive results under a unified optimizer-comparison protocol. The code will be released at https://github.com/mengzhu0308/Ada2MS
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript proposes Ada2MS, a hybrid optimization algorithm that uses continuous exponential interpolation between elementwise second-moment estimates and global second-moment estimates to achieve a smooth transition between AdamW-like and momentum-SGD-like behaviors. It claims competitive performance on visual tasks under a unified optimizer-comparison protocol, with code to be released.
Significance. If the claimed transition can be shown to reliably combine stability and generalization benefits without introducing new instabilities, and if the experimental results are substantiated with quantitative metrics, the method could offer a practical addition to the optimizer toolkit for vision models. The planned code release supports reproducibility.
major comments (2)
- [§3] §3 (update rule derivation): the global second-moment limit produces an update of the form m_t / sqrt(v_global) (scaled by momentum), which remains a globally normalized adaptive step. This does not recover the un-normalized momentum accumulation used by momentum SGD, contradicting the central claim of a smooth transition to momentum-SGD-like behavior.
- [Experiments] Experimental section: the abstract states competitive results on visual tasks under a unified protocol, yet no quantitative metrics, baseline tables, ablation studies on the mixing parameter, or error bars are supplied. This prevents verification of the performance claims that support the method's practical value.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: the unified optimizer-comparison protocol is referenced but not outlined (e.g., hyperparameter search ranges or exact tasks); a short description would aid readers.
- [§3] Notation: the exponential mixing parameter is introduced but its symbol is not consistently defined across the method equations and text.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive comments. We address each major point below and indicate planned revisions to improve clarity and substantiation of the claims.
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Referee: [§3] §3 (update rule derivation): the global second-moment limit produces an update of the form m_t / sqrt(v_global) (scaled by momentum), which remains a globally normalized adaptive step. This does not recover the un-normalized momentum accumulation used by momentum SGD, contradicting the central claim of a smooth transition to momentum-SGD-like behavior.
Authors: We appreciate this careful examination of the limiting case. The referee is correct that setting the mixing to produce a purely global second-moment estimate yields an update of the form m_t / sqrt(v_global), which applies a global normalization rather than the un-normalized accumulation of standard momentum SGD. This means the transition is to a globally scaled momentum update rather than exactly recovering the classical momentum-SGD rule. We will revise Section 3, the abstract, and the introduction to describe the limiting behavior more precisely as interpolation between AdamW and a globally normalized momentum update. We will also add a short discussion of how this global normalization can still confer generalization benefits similar to momentum SGD in vision tasks when the global scale is appropriately tuned. revision: yes
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Referee: [Experiments] Experimental section: the abstract states competitive results on visual tasks under a unified protocol, yet no quantitative metrics, baseline tables, ablation studies on the mixing parameter, or error bars are supplied. This prevents verification of the performance claims that support the method's practical value.
Authors: We agree that the experimental presentation is currently insufficient for independent verification. In the revised version we will expand the experimental section to include: (i) full baseline comparison tables reporting quantitative metrics (top-1 accuracy, training loss) on the visual tasks, (ii) ablation studies that vary the exponential mixing parameter across a range of values and show the resulting performance curve, and (iii) error bars computed from at least three independent runs with different random seeds. All experiments will continue to follow the unified optimizer-comparison protocol described in the manuscript. These additions will directly support the competitiveness claims. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: Ada2MS is defined directly as an interpolation rule
full rationale
The paper defines Ada2MS explicitly as an exponential mixing rule between elementwise and global second-moment estimates to interpolate between AdamW-like and momentum-SGD-like updates. This is a constructive algorithmic proposal rather than a derivation chain that reduces claimed behavior or performance to fitted inputs, self-citations, or prior results by construction. Empirical results on visual tasks are presented as outcomes of this definition under a unified protocol, with no equations shown that force the transition or results tautologically. The derivation is self-contained as a new optimizer design.
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