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Why Muon Outperforms Adam: A Curvature Perspective

cs.LG · 2026-06-03 · conditional · novelty 7.0

Muon outperforms Adam by reducing curvature penalty via lower Normalized Directional Sharpness, as shown via Taylor approximation on LLM training and proven on stylized quadratic problems with heterogeneous curvature.

Old Optimizer, New Norm: An Anthology

cs.LG · 2024-09-30 · unverdicted · novelty 7.0

Optimizers like Adam reduce to steepest descent under particular norms, opening a design space of norm assignments tailored to layer roles.

Muon Learns More Robust and Transferable Features than Adam

cs.LG · 2026-06-08 · unverdicted · novelty 5.0

Muon learns more robust and transferable features than Adam and SGD, shown via corruption robustness tests, transfer experiments, layer-wise probes, effective rank measurements, and a theoretical proof on margins in a multi-component classification problem.

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  • Why Muon Outperforms Adam: A Curvature Perspective cs.LG · 2026-06-03 · conditional · none · ref 70

    Muon outperforms Adam by reducing curvature penalty via lower Normalized Directional Sharpness, as shown via Taylor approximation on LLM training and proven on stylized quadratic problems with heterogeneous curvature.

  • Old Optimizer, New Norm: An Anthology cs.LG · 2024-09-30 · unverdicted · none · ref 38

    Optimizers like Adam reduce to steepest descent under particular norms, opening a design space of norm assignments tailored to layer roles.

  • Double Preconditioning (DoPr): Optimization for Test-Time Performance, not Validation Loss cs.LG · 2026-06-04 · unverdicted · none · ref 283

    Double preconditioning (DoPr) improves downstream task performance in test-time feedback settings without consistent gains in validation loss.

  • Muon Learns More Robust and Transferable Features than Adam cs.LG · 2026-06-08 · unverdicted · none · ref 3

    Muon learns more robust and transferable features than Adam and SGD, shown via corruption robustness tests, transfer experiments, layer-wise probes, effective rank measurements, and a theoretical proof on margins in a multi-component classification problem.