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On coherent Hopf 2-algebras

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Hopf coquasigroups that relax coassociativity can be assembled into coherent Hopf 2-algebras, including versions whose coassociators are nontrivial.

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The paper constructs coherent Hopf 2-algebras directly from Hopf coquasigroups, structures that drop the strict coassociativity axiom while preserving the higher coherence conditions. It further shows that a quasi-coassociative variant of these coquasigroups produces 2-algebras whose coassociators are not forced to be trivial. An explicit example is built from the algebra of functions on a Cayley algebra basis. A reader following the argument sees how one controlled relaxation of an associativity-type condition opens a larger supply of examples without destroying the 2-categorical coherence.

Core claim

We construct a coherent Hopf 2-algebra in terms of Hopf coquasigroups, which relax the coassociativity condition. We also study quasi coassociative Hopf coquasigroups, and show that they give rise to coherent Hopf 2-algebras with nontrivial coassociators. As an example, we investigate the algebra of functions on a Cayley algebra basis.

What carries the argument

Hopf coquasigroups that relax the coassociativity condition, assembled so that the resulting structure satisfies the coherence axioms of a Hopf 2-algebra.

If this is right

  • Coherent Hopf 2-algebras exist even when the underlying coalgebra structure is not strictly coassociative.
  • Quasi-coassociative Hopf coquasigroups produce coherent Hopf 2-algebras whose coassociators are allowed to be nontrivial.
  • The construction supplies a systematic source of examples beyond those obtained from strictly coassociative structures.
  • The function algebra on a Cayley algebra basis realizes one such coherent Hopf 2-algebra.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Similar relaxations might be tried in other higher-algebraic settings where strict coassociativity is known to be too restrictive.
  • The Cayley-algebra example could be examined further to compute explicit formulas for the nontrivial coassociators.
  • The same method may apply to other families of nonassociative algebras whose function algebras carry compatible coalgebra structures.

Load-bearing premise

The particular relaxation of coassociativity used to define Hopf coquasigroups remains compatible with the coherence axioms needed to obtain a Hopf 2-algebra.

What would settle it

A concrete Hopf coquasigroup for which the induced maps fail to satisfy one or more of the coherence diagrams required of a Hopf 2-algebra would refute the construction.

read the original abstract

We construct a coherent Hopf 2-algebra in terms of Hopf coquasigroups, which relax the coassociativity condition and generalize the results in \cite{XH2023}. We also study quasi coassociative Hopf coquasigroups, and show that they give rise to coherent Hopf 2-algebras with nontrivial coassociators. As an example, we investigate the algebra of functions on a Cayley algebra basis.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper claims to construct coherent Hopf 2-algebras from Hopf coquasigroups that relax coassociativity, generalizing results in XH2023. It further studies quasi-coassociative Hopf coquasigroups and shows they produce coherent Hopf 2-algebras with nontrivial coassociators, illustrated by an example of the algebra of functions on a Cayley algebra basis.

Significance. If the construction holds, the work provides a systematic way to obtain higher-categorical Hopf structures from objects with controlled failure of coassociativity, extending the scope of Hopf algebra theory into 2-categories and supplying concrete examples with nontrivial coherence data.

major comments (2)
  1. [Main construction (as described in the abstract and introduction)] The central claim that Hopf coquasigroups (with their specific relaxation of coassociativity) directly yield coherent Hopf 2-algebras requires explicit verification that all higher coherence diagrams and 2-algebra axioms are satisfied; the manuscript asserts compatibility without supplying the necessary diagram chase or identity checks, which is load-bearing for the generalization of XH2023.
  2. [Quasi-coassociative case] For quasi-coassociative Hopf coquasigroups, the assertion that they produce coherent Hopf 2-algebras with nontrivial coassociators needs an explicit definition of the coassociator together with verification that it obeys the required coherence conditions; this step is stated but not carried out in sufficient detail to support the claim.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Example section] The example with functions on a Cayley algebra basis would be strengthened by explicit formulas or computations demonstrating the nontriviality of the coassociator.
  2. Ensure the reference to XH2023 is given with full bibliographic details.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their thorough review and valuable feedback on our manuscript. We appreciate the identification of areas where additional explicit verifications are needed to strengthen the presentation. Below we address each major comment and outline the revisions we will make.

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  1. Referee: The central claim that Hopf coquasigroups (with their specific relaxation of coassociativity) directly yield coherent Hopf 2-algebras requires explicit verification that all higher coherence diagrams and 2-algebra axioms are satisfied; the manuscript asserts compatibility without supplying the necessary diagram chase or identity checks, which is load-bearing for the generalization of XH2023.

    Authors: We agree with the referee that explicit verification is necessary for the main construction. Although the manuscript outlines the compatibility, we will revise Section 3 to include complete diagram chases verifying that the Hopf coquasigroup structure induces a coherent Hopf 2-algebra satisfying all higher coherence conditions and 2-algebra axioms. This will provide a rigorous generalization of the results in XH2023. revision: yes

  2. Referee: For quasi-coassociative Hopf coquasigroups, the assertion that they produce coherent Hopf 2-algebras with nontrivial coassociators needs an explicit definition of the coassociator together with verification that it obeys the required coherence conditions; this step is stated but not carried out in sufficient detail to support the claim.

    Authors: We accept that more detail is required here. In the revised manuscript, we will provide an explicit definition of the coassociator derived from the quasi-coassociativity of the Hopf coquasigroup and verify that it satisfies the necessary coherence conditions, including the pentagon identity. We will also expand the example from the Cayley algebra to demonstrate the nontrivial coassociator explicitly. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: construction from independent definitions of Hopf coquasigroups

full rationale

The paper defines Hopf coquasigroups by relaxing coassociativity, then constructs coherent Hopf 2-algebras from them (generalizing XH2023) and studies quasi-coassociative variants with an explicit example on functions on a Cayley algebra basis. No step reduces a claimed result to a fitted parameter, self-definition, or unverified self-citation chain; the compatibility with coherence axioms is part of the new construction rather than presupposed by it. The derivation is self-contained against the stated definitions.

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The central claim rests on the compatibility of relaxed coassociativity with 2-algebra coherence conditions, drawing from standard definitions in Hopf algebra theory and category theory.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Standard definitions and properties of Hopf algebras, coquasigroups, and coherent 2-algebras
    The paper builds directly on these background structures from the field.

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