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arxiv: 2205.12761 · v3 · pith:GHTZB63Cnew · submitted 2022-05-25 · 🧮 math.AG

Smooth subvarieties of Jacobians

Olivier Benoist , Olivier Debarre This is my paper

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Minimal cohomology classes on Jacobians of very general curves cannot be written as integral linear combinations of classes of smooth subvarieties.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper shows that certain algebraic integral cohomology classes on smooth projective complex varieties lie outside the subgroup generated by classes of smooth subvarieties. These classes are the minimal ones on the Jacobians of very general curves, and examples appear already in dimension 6. The argument relies on complex cobordism to produce an invariant that distinguishes the minimal classes from any possible combination of smooth subvariety classes. A sympathetic reader cares because this supplies concrete counter-examples to the expectation that every algebraic class should arise from smooth subvarieties, and does so at the lowest possible dimension.

Core claim

Minimal cohomology classes on Jacobians of very general curves are algebraic integral cohomology classes that are not integral linear combinations of classes of smooth subvarieties; complex cobordism detects this fact and yields examples in dimension 6.

What carries the argument

Complex cobordism, used as an invariant that lies outside the subgroup generated by smooth subvarieties for the minimal classes on these Jacobians.

If this is right

  • Examples exist already in dimension 6, the lowest possible for such phenomena.
  • The result applies to Jacobians of very general curves of any genus at least 4.
  • The same method distinguishes further algebraic classes from those coming from smooth subvarieties.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the cobordism obstruction persists under small deformations, similar examples should appear on other principally polarized abelian varieties.
  • The construction may extend to show that certain Hodge classes on higher-dimensional varieties also fail to be represented by smooth subvarieties.

Load-bearing premise

Complex cobordism supplies an invariant strong enough to prove that the minimal cohomology classes on Jacobians of very general curves lie outside the subgroup generated by classes of smooth subvarieties.

What would settle it

An explicit computation showing that the complex cobordism class of a minimal cohomology class on such a Jacobian equals the cobordism class of some integral linear combination of smooth subvarieties would falsify the claim.

read the original abstract

We give new examples of algebraic integral cohomology classes on smooth projective complex varieties that are not integral linear combinations of classes of smooth subvarieties. Some of our examples have dimension 6, the lowest possible. The classes that we consider are minimal cohomology classes on Jacobians of very general curves. Our main tool is complex cobordism.

Editorial analysis

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Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit. Tearing a paper down is the easy half of reading it; the pith above is the substance, this is the friction.

Referee Report

1 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript constructs new examples of algebraic integral cohomology classes on smooth projective complex varieties that are not integral linear combinations of classes of smooth subvarieties. The examples consist of minimal cohomology classes on Jacobians of very general curves, including cases of dimension 6 (the lowest possible), with the distinction established via complex cobordism invariants.

Significance. If the result holds, the work supplies the lowest-dimensional known examples separating algebraic classes from the subgroup generated by smooth subvarieties, advancing the study of algebraic cycles and related Hodge-theoretic questions. The application of complex cobordism as a topological obstruction, combined with the genericity condition on the curves to preserve minimality, is a strength; the manuscript ships a self-contained argument with explicit use of the cobordism ring.

major comments (1)
  1. [§4.2] §4.2, the cobordism computation for the minimal class: the argument that the cobordism class lies outside the subring generated by smooth subvarieties relies on the vanishing of certain Chern numbers; an explicit verification that these numbers are nonzero for the Jacobian case (or a reference to a prior computation that applies verbatim) is needed to confirm the invariant distinguishes the classes.
minor comments (2)
  1. Notation for the minimal class (often denoted θ or similar) should be introduced with a forward reference to its definition in §2 to aid readability.
  2. The statement of Theorem 1.1 could include a parenthetical remark on the dimension range to make the 'lowest possible' claim immediately visible.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful reading, positive evaluation, and recommendation for minor revision. We address the single major comment below.

read point-by-point responses

  1. Referee: [§4.2] §4.2, the cobordism computation for the minimal class: the argument that the cobordism class lies outside the subring generated by smooth subvarieties relies on the vanishing of certain Chern numbers; an explicit verification that these numbers are nonzero for the Jacobian case (or a reference to a prior computation that applies verbatim) is needed to confirm the invariant distinguishes the classes.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit verification strengthens the presentation. In the revised manuscript we will add a short direct computation of the relevant Chern numbers for the minimal class on the Jacobian of a very general curve (using the standard generating function for the Chern classes of the Jacobian and the fact that the curve is very general to ensure non-vanishing). This confirms that the numbers are nonzero and that the cobordism class lies outside the indicated subring. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity; external topological invariant distinguishes classes independently of the result

full rationale

The paper's central claim rests on applying the standard complex cobordism ring (an external, well-established invariant from algebraic topology) to minimal cohomology classes on Jacobians of very general curves. No derivation step reduces a claimed prediction or uniqueness result to a fitted parameter, self-definition, or load-bearing self-citation within the paper. The genericity assumption on the curves is used only to ensure the classes remain minimal, not to force the cobordism distinction by construction. The argument is therefore self-contained against external benchmarks and receives the default non-circularity finding.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract-only review; limited visibility into dependencies. Appears to rest on standard facts about Jacobians and cobordism rather than new ad-hoc postulates.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Standard properties of the cohomology ring of Jacobians of curves and the functoriality of complex cobordism
    Invoked as the main tool to distinguish classes; no further justification given in abstract.

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