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arxiv: 2506.13673 · v2 · pith:AI7FRKA6new · submitted 2025-06-16 · 🧮 math.LO · math.GR

Coordinate recognition: General theory, Groups, and other surprises

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A class of structures \emph{recognizes coordinates} if any reduced product of structures from said class witnesses a certain kind of rigidity phenomenon. We provide several equivalent characterizations of this property. This property has (at least) two remarkable consequences, one set-theoretic and one model-theoretic, for reduced products of structures of the said class. First, under appropriate set-theoretic assumptions every isomorphism between such reduced products associated with the Fr\'echet ideal lifts (modulo a finite change) to an isomorphism between products of the original structures. Second, with an additional mild assumption, it implies a strong quantifier elimination result. Of note, we show that a class recognizes coordinates if and only if an individual formula witnesses a certain syntactic property. We also consider many concrete classes of structures and determine whether or not they recognize coordinates. We place heavy emphasis on well-known classes of groups, such as permutation groups, acylindircally hyperbolic groups, quasisimple groups, free products, and graph products, but we also discuss other classes of structures.

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