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arxiv: 2510.06167 · v1 · submitted 2025-10-07 · 🌌 astro-ph.GA

PDRs4All XIX. The 6 to 9 μm region as a probe of PAH charge and size in the Orion Bar

Baria Khan , Samuel A. Daza Rodriguez , Els Peeters , Alexander G. G. M. Tielens , Takashi Onaka , Jan Cami , Bethany Schefter , Christiaan Boersma
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Felipe Alarc\'on Olivier Bern\'e Am\'elie Canin Ryan Chown Emmanuel Dartois Javier R. Goicoechea Emilie Habart Olga Kannavou Alexandros Maragkoudakis Amit Pathak Alessandra Ricca Ga\"el Rouill\'e Dinalva A. Sales Ilane Schroetter Ameek Sidhu Boris Trahin Dries Van De Putte Yong Zhang Henning Zettergren
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The 6.2/11.2 micron AIB ratio serves as the most reliable tracer of charged PAHs in the Orion Bar, while bands near 8.6 micron track their sizes.

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The paper analyzes JWST MIRI-MRS observations of the Orion Bar to map how different aromatic infrared bands (AIBs) at 6.2, 7.7, 8.6, 11.0, and 11.2 microns vary across the photo-dissociation region. These bands show similar large-scale spatial patterns, but their intensity correlations split into two groups that the authors link to differences in PAH size and charge. Quantum chemical calculations are used to assign the 6.2 and 7.7 micron features to medium-sized cations and the 8.6 and 11.0 micron features to larger compact cations. This separation lets specific band ratios act as practical diagnostics for both the ionization fraction and the size distribution of the emitting PAHs.

Core claim

The 6.2 and 7.7 micron AIBs trace cationic medium-sized PAHs, while the 8.6 micron AIB arises from large compact cationic PAHs and the 11.0 micron AIB shares this carrier population. The resulting band ratios 6.2/8.6 and 7.7/8.6 therefore measure PAH size, and the 6.2/11.2 ratio emerges as the cleanest proxy for the fraction of charged PAHs within the set of observed features.

What carries the argument

Spatial morphology and three-feature intensity correlations among the 6.2, 7.7, 8.6, 11.0, and 11.2 micron AIBs, interpreted through quantum chemical calculations that assign specific carriers to PAHs of different sizes and charges.

If this is right

  • The 6.2/11.2 AIB ratio provides a practical measure of PAH ionization fraction across the Orion Bar.
  • The 6.2/8.6 and 7.7/8.6 ratios serve as indicators of average PAH size in the same region.
  • JWST MIRI filter combinations can map PAH charge and size without requiring full spectroscopy.
  • The 6-9 micron AIB region as a whole yields information on both charge state and size distribution of PAHs.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same band-ratio approach could be tested on JWST data from other PDRs or star-forming regions to check whether the size and charge diagnostics remain consistent across different radiation environments.
  • If the ratios prove stable, they could simplify future mapping of PAH properties in entire galaxies observed with MIRI imaging rather than spectroscopy.
  • Variations in these ratios might eventually be combined with models of PAH destruction to estimate local UV intensities in unresolved sources.

Load-bearing premise

The observed spatial correlations and groupings among the AIB features arise mainly from differences in PAH size and charge state rather than from local changes in radiation field, extinction, or other molecular carriers.

What would settle it

A direct comparison in additional PDRs showing that the 6.2/11.2 ratio fails to track independent ionization indicators such as the strength of ionized gas lines or the local UV field strength would falsify the proxy claim.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2510.06167 by Alessandra Ricca, Alexander G. G. M. Tielens, Alexandros Maragkoudakis, Ameek Sidhu, Am\'elie Canin, Amit Pathak, Baria Khan, Bethany Schefter, Boris Trahin, Christiaan Boersma, Dinalva A. Sales, Dries Van De Putte, Els Peeters, Emilie Habart, Emmanuel Dartois, Felipe Alarc\'on, Ga\"el Rouill\'e, Henning Zettergren, Ilane Schroetter, Jan Cami, Javier R. Goicoechea, Olga Kannavou, Olivier Bern\'e, Ryan Chown, Samuel A. Daza Rodriguez, Takashi Onaka, Yong Zhang.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: The AIB template spectrum for the Orion Bar Atomic PDR, showcasing the 6.2, 7.7, 8.6, 11.0, and 11.2 µm AIBs shaded in red and indicated by the vertical solid blue lines. The blue curve shows the underlying "global" continuum, the orange curve is the "local" continuum (lc), and the black round symbols mark the anchor points used for the continua determination. Tgas is the gas temperature (Bregman & Temi 20… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Spatial distribution of the surface brightnesses of the 6.2, 7.7, 8.6, 11.0, and 11.2 µm AIBs in the Orion Bar PDR, in units of W m−2 sr−1 , and brightness ratios relative to the 11.2 µm AIB. The analysis utilizes the 7.7 and 8.6 µm bands measured using a local continuum (lc; [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Normalized surface brightnesses and their ratios for the 6.2, 7.7, 8.6, 11.0, and 11.2 µm AIBs as a function of distance to the IF (0.228 pc or 113.4′′ from θ 1 Ori C) along a cut crossing the mosaic (see [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Correlations of the 7.7 [lc]/11.2, 8.6 [lc]/11.2, and 11.0/11.2 AIB surface brightness ratios. The Spearman correlation coefficients ‘R’ for the variables excluding (including) the points from the H ii region (black), and regions beneath the IF (teal and dark blue), are printed in red (black) in the panels. Only surface brightnesses from every other spaxel are considered in the correlation analyses. The da… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Two strongest correlations between ratios of the synthetic images involving F770W, F1130W, and F1500W and the measured 7.7/11.2 spectroscopic PAH emission in the Orion Bar. Here the 7.7 µm feature is measured using the global continuum ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_5.png] view at source ↗
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Infrared emission from polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) play a major role in determining the charge balance of their host environments that include photo-dissociation regions (PDRs) in galaxies, planetary nebulae, and rims of molecular clouds. We aim to investigate the distribution and sizes of charged PAHs across the key zones of the Orion Bar PDR. We employ JWST MIRI-MRS observations of the Orion Bar from the Early Release Science program ''PDRs4All'' and synthetic images in the JWST MIRI filters. We investigate the spatial morphology of the AIBs at 6.2, 7.7, 8.6, and 11.0 $\mu$m that commonly trace PAH cations, and the neutral PAH-tracing 11.2 $\mu$m AIB, their (relative) correlations, and the relationship with existing empirical prescriptions for AIBs. The 6.2. 7.7, 8.6, 11.0, and 11.2 $\mu$m AIBs are similar in spatial morphology, on larger scales. Analyzing three-feature intensity correlations, two distinct groups emerge: the 8.6 and 11.0 $\mu$m vs. the 6.2 and 7.7 $\mu$m AIBs. We attribute these correlations to PAH size. The 6.2 and 7.7 $\mu$m AIBs trace cationic, medium-sized PAHs. Quantum chemical calculations reveal that the 8.6 $\mu$m AIB is carried by large, compact, cationic PAHs, and the 11.0 $\mu$m AIB's correlation to it implies, so is this band. The 6.2/8.6 and 7.7/8.6 PAH band ratios thus probe PAH size. We conclude that the 6.2/11.2 AIB ratio is the most reliable proxy for charged PAHs, within the cohort. We outline JWST MIRI imaging prescriptions that serve as effective tracers of the PAH ionization fraction as traced. This study showcases the efficacy of the 6-9 $\mu$m AIBs to probe the charge state and size distribution of the emitting PAHs, offering insights into the physical conditions of their host environments. JWST MIRI photometry offers a viable alternative to IFU spectroscopy for characterizing this emission in extended objects.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper uses JWST MIRI-MRS observations from the PDRs4All program to map the spatial morphology of AIB features at 6.2, 7.7, 8.6, 11.0, and 11.2 μm across the Orion Bar PDR. It reports that these bands show similar large-scale morphology, identifies two distinct groups from three-feature intensity correlations (8.6+11.0 versus 6.2+7.7), attributes the grouping to PAH size differences using quantum chemical calculations, and concludes that the 6.2/11.2 ratio is the most reliable proxy for charged PAHs within the studied cohort. The work also outlines JWST MIRI imaging prescriptions for tracing PAH ionization fraction.

Significance. If the central attribution holds, the study provides a practical diagnostic framework for extracting PAH charge and size information from mid-IR observations, which is valuable for interpreting emission in PDRs, galaxies, and other environments. The direct use of new high-resolution JWST data combined with quantum calculations to rank proxies is a concrete advance, and the imaging prescriptions extend the utility beyond spectroscopy.

major comments (2)
  1. [§4] §4 (results on three-feature intensity correlations): The claim that the observed grouping of 8.6+11.0 versus 6.2+7.7 arises from distinct PAH size populations is load-bearing for the proxy ranking and the conclusion that 6.2/11.2 is the most reliable charged-PAH tracer. However, the manuscript does not present a quantitative test (e.g., partial correlation after controlling for local FUV field strength or comparison to independent radiation-field tracers) to exclude the possibility that the spatial patterns are driven primarily by the >1-order-of-magnitude FUV gradient across the ionization front to molecular zone, which simultaneously affects ionization fraction and excitation.
  2. [Abstract and §5] Abstract and §5 (discussion of quantum chemical calculations): The assignment of the 8.6 μm band to large, compact, cationic PAHs (and by correlation the 11.0 μm band) is used to interpret the size proxy, but no error bars, exclusion criteria for alternative carriers, or quantitative fit statistics to the cited calculations are provided. This leaves the size attribution defensible but not fully isolated from possible contributions of other molecular species or temperature effects.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: Typo in sentence 'The 6.2. 7.7, 8.6, 11.0, and 11.2 μm AIBs' (period instead of comma after 6.2).
  2. [Figures and §3] Figure captions and text: Ensure consistent notation for band ratios (e.g., 6.2/11.2 versus 6.2/8.6) and clarify whether the reported spatial similarities are quantified (e.g., via correlation coefficients) or qualitative.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive and detailed review of our manuscript. We have addressed each major comment point by point below, providing clarifications and making revisions to the manuscript where they strengthen the presentation of our results without misrepresenting the analysis.

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  1. Referee: [§4] §4 (results on three-feature intensity correlations): The claim that the observed grouping of 8.6+11.0 versus 6.2+7.7 arises from distinct PAH size populations is load-bearing for the proxy ranking and the conclusion that 6.2/11.2 is the most reliable charged-PAH tracer. However, the manuscript does not present a quantitative test (e.g., partial correlation after controlling for local FUV field strength or comparison to independent radiation-field tracers) to exclude the possibility that the spatial patterns are driven primarily by the >1-order-of-magnitude FUV gradient across the ionization front to molecular zone, which simultaneously affects ionization fraction and excitation.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit quantitative test controlling for the FUV gradient would further isolate the size interpretation. In the revised manuscript we have added a dedicated paragraph in §4 that discusses the FUV gradient across the Orion Bar, references existing radiation-field maps from the PDRs4All program, and explains why the observed specific pairing (8.6 with 11.0, distinct from 6.2 and 7.7) is inconsistent with a uniform FUV-driven response. The grouping aligns instead with the size-dependent spectral features predicted by the quantum-chemical calculations cited in the paper. While a full partial-correlation analysis would require additional modeling steps outside the scope of the present observational study, the added discussion makes the attribution more robust and transparent. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Abstract and §5] Abstract and §5 (discussion of quantum chemical calculations): The assignment of the 8.6 μm band to large, compact, cationic PAHs (and by correlation the 11.0 μm band) is used to interpret the size proxy, but no error bars, exclusion criteria for alternative carriers, or quantitative fit statistics to the cited calculations are provided. This leaves the size attribution defensible but not fully isolated from possible contributions of other molecular species or temperature effects.

    Authors: The assignments rest on the quantum-chemical results already published in the cited literature. In the revised §5 we have expanded the discussion to summarize the range of PAH sizes and structures examined in those calculations, noted the key spectral features that favor large compact cations for the 8.6 μm band, and briefly addressed why alternative carriers (e.g., smaller PAHs or neutral species) are disfavored by the same calculations. We have also clarified that the 11.0 μm correlation follows directly from the spatial and intensity linkage to the 8.6 μm band. These additions improve the transparency of the interpretation while remaining faithful to the original analysis. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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full rationale

The paper's claims rest on new JWST MIRI-MRS observations of spatial morphologies and three-feature intensity correlations across the Orion Bar, with feature groupings (8.6+11.0 vs. 6.2+7.7) directly measured in the data. Attribution of these groups to PAH size and charge state is justified by reference to external quantum chemical calculations rather than by redefinition or prior fits within this work. The conclusion that the 6.2/11.2 ratio is the most reliable charged-PAH proxy follows from these observed correlations and cited theoretical input without reducing to self-citation chains or tautological inputs. Minor series context (PDRs4All) exists but does not force the new ratios or attributions by construction. The derivation is observationally driven and externally benchmarked.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The analysis depends on the accuracy of existing quantum chemical calculations for band carriers and on the assumption that AIB intensity variations map directly to PAH population properties.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Quantum chemical calculations correctly identify the molecular carriers responsible for the 8.6 μm and 11.0 μm AIBs as large compact cationic PAHs.
    Invoked to interpret the observed correlation between 8.6 and 11.0 μm bands.

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