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arxiv: 2512.02211 · v2 · submitted 2025-12-01 · 🧮 math.GR

Covering by Centralizers

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Maximal centralizers and minimal centralizers each cover any finite group.

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The paper shows that in a finite group the centralizers maximal under inclusion by set containment form a cover, so their union equals the whole group. It proves the same for the minimal centralizers under the same ordering. For the special case of nonabelian p-group F-groups the distinct nontrivial centralizers number one more than a multiple of p. These statements give a uniform way to reach every group element via centralizers selected by extremal size.

Core claim

The collection of all maximal centralizers covers the group and the collection of all minimal centralizers also covers the group. In nonabelian p-group F-groups the number of distinct nontrivial centralizers is congruent to 1 modulo p.

What carries the argument

The partial order of centralizers by inclusion, whose maximal and minimal members are extracted to form the covers.

If this is right

  • Every element of a finite group lies inside at least one maximal centralizer.
  • Every element of a finite group lies inside at least one minimal centralizer.
  • In nonabelian F-group p-groups the distinct nontrivial centralizers are counted by a formula congruent to 1 mod p.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The two covers may interact with the center or with conjugacy-class sizes in ways that refine the counting argument.
  • Similar extremal-centralizer covers might be examined in solvable or nilpotent groups without the F-group hypothesis.

Load-bearing premise

The groups are finite, and the congruence statement further requires them to be F-groups that are nonabelian p-groups.

What would settle it

A single finite group containing an element outside every maximal centralizer, or a nonabelian F-group p-group whose count of distinct nontrivial centralizers fails to be congruent to 1 modulo p.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2512.02211 by Mark L. Lewis, Ryan McCulloch.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: A Hasse diagram showing the centralizers and centers of S4. We close the paper with two interesting observations about F-groups that are p-groups. Theorem 5.7. Let G be p-group that is an F-group and is not a CA-group. There exists a nonabelian centralizer C with exp(C) = exp(Z(C)). Proof. Among all nonabelian proper centralizers in G, choose one whose center has the largest exponent, call this centralizer… view at source ↗
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In this paper, we consider covers of finite groups by centralizers of elements. We show that the set of centralizers that are maximal under the partial ordering form a cover of the group. We also show that the set of centralizers that are minimal under the partial ordering form a cover of the group. We show for $F$-groups that are nonabelian $p$-groups that the number of distinct nontrivial centralizers is congruent to $1$ modulo $p$.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper considers the poset of centralizers of elements in a finite group G, ordered by inclusion. It claims to prove that the maximal centralizers form a cover of G (their union is G) and that the minimal centralizers likewise form a cover of G. It further claims that when G is a nonabelian p-group that is an F-group, the number of distinct nontrivial centralizers is congruent to 1 modulo p.

Significance. If the claims hold, the work records elementary but potentially useful facts about the centralizer poset in finite groups: every element lies in a maximal centralizer (immediate from finiteness) and in a minimal centralizer (requiring a short argument that a minimal element exists inside the subposet of centralizers containing a fixed element). The congruence supplies a modular counting constraint for centralizers in a restricted class of p-groups. The arguments appear to rest on standard definitions and the finiteness of the poset rather than any self-referential or parameter-tuned construction.

major comments (1)
  1. [Proof that minimal centralizers cover the group] The argument that minimal centralizers cover G is less immediate than the maximal case. The manuscript should explicitly verify, for an arbitrary g, that the subposet of centralizers containing C(g) has a minimal element that is still a centralizer of some group element (rather than merely a minimal member of a larger collection).
minor comments (2)
  1. [Section introducing F-groups and the congruence] The precise definition of an F-group must appear in the body (not only the abstract) before the congruence statement is stated, since the result is restricted to this subclass.
  2. [Introduction or first theorem] The manuscript should note explicitly that the maximal-centralizer cover follows at once from the finiteness of the poset and the existence of maximal elements; this clarifies the contribution of the minimal-centralizer claim.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading of the manuscript and the constructive recommendation for minor revision. We address the single major comment below.

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  1. Referee: [Proof that minimal centralizers cover the group] The argument that minimal centralizers cover G is less immediate than the maximal case. The manuscript should explicitly verify, for an arbitrary g, that the subposet of centralizers containing C(g) has a minimal element that is still a centralizer of some group element (rather than merely a minimal member of a larger collection).

    Authors: We agree that the covering property for minimal centralizers benefits from a more explicit verification than the maximal case, which follows immediately from finiteness. In the revised manuscript we will add a short paragraph that, for arbitrary g, considers the subposet of all centralizers containing C(g). This subposet is nonempty (it contains C(g)) and finite, so it possesses minimal elements under inclusion. Any such minimal element is, by construction, the centralizer of some element of G and necessarily contains g. We will include this verification verbatim in the next version. revision: yes

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full rationale

The paper establishes that maximal centralizers under inclusion cover any finite group G, which follows immediately from the finiteness of the centralizer poset: every element g belongs to C(g), and the poset admits maximal elements containing it. The analogous claim for minimal centralizers is likewise a direct consequence of finiteness applied to the subposet of centralizers containing a fixed g. The congruence result is confined to the subclass of F-groups that are nonabelian p-groups and reduces to standard p-group counting once the definition of F-group is supplied; no fitted parameters, self-definitional equations, or load-bearing self-citations appear. The derivation relies on ordinary poset and group-theoretic facts that are independent of the paper's own results.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The claims rest on the standard definition of the centralizer of an element and the partial order of subgroups by inclusion. These are ordinary background facts in group theory. No free parameters, ad-hoc axioms, or new postulated entities are visible in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Standard axioms of group theory (associativity, identity element, inverses, closure).
    The paper works inside the category of finite groups and therefore inherits the usual group axioms.

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