Poisson-Dirichlet approximation for counting integers with divisors in an interval
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The pith
A convex-set comparison inequality combined with Arratia coupling reduces counting integers with restricted prime factorizations to bounding two boundary proximity probabilities.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
By establishing a simple inequality that compares the laws of two random variables taking values in a convex subset of a normed vector space and combining it with the refined Arratia coupling, the work shows that an asymptotic formula for the number of integers whose prime factorization lies in any given subset of ell-one real space can be reduced to bounding two key probabilities that measure proximity to the boundary of the subset. When applied to the count of integers in [1, x] having a divisor in (y, z) in the regime where z/y tends to infinity, this reduction supplies the desired asymptotic formula.
What carries the argument
A simple inequality comparing the laws of two random variables valued in a convex subset of a normed vector space, used together with the refined Arratia coupling to convert counting problems into boundary-probability estimates.
If this is right
- An explicit asymptotic formula holds for the number of integers up to x possessing a divisor in (y, z) whenever z/y tends to infinity.
- The same reduction strategy applies to any other subset of ell-one real space once the two boundary proximity probabilities can be bounded.
- Asymptotics become available for many further counting problems defined by conditions on prime factorizations, provided the boundary probabilities remain controllable.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The method may extend to regimes in which z/y tends to a positive constant or to zero, provided adjusted boundary estimates are supplied.
- Similar boundary-probability reductions could apply to related problems such as counting integers with all prime factors in prescribed ranges.
- The explicit asymptotic could be used to test the accuracy of Poisson-Dirichlet approximations in finite-x regimes through direct comparison.
Load-bearing premise
The refined Arratia coupling applies directly to the convex-set comparison inequality without introducing error terms that would disturb the leading asymptotic term when the interval ratio tends to infinity.
What would settle it
Direct numerical computation of the count of integers up to a large x with a divisor in (y, z) for several sequences where z/y grows, compared against the predicted main term; a persistent mismatch of size larger than the error term would disprove the claim.
read the original abstract
We give a simple inequality that compares the laws of two random variables taking values in a convex subset of a normed vector space. By combining this with Arratia's coupling, recently refined by Koukoulopoulos and the author, we obtain a general strategy to reduce the problem of finding an asymptotic formula for the number of integers whose prime factorization lies in any given subset of $\ell^1(\mathbb R)$, to bounding two key probabilities measuring proximity to the boundary of the subset in question. We apply this strategy to obtain an asymptotic formula for counting integers in $[1, x]$ that have a divisor in an interval $(y, z)$ in the regime $z/y \to \infty$ as $x \to \infty$.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces a comparison inequality for the distributions of two random variables taking values in a convex subset of a normed vector space. By combining this inequality with a refined Arratia coupling (from prior work with Koukoulopoulos), it reduces the problem of obtaining an asymptotic for the number of integers whose normalized prime-exponent vectors lie in a given subset of ℓ¹(ℝ) to bounding two boundary-proximity probabilities. The method is applied to derive an asymptotic formula for the count of integers ≤ x possessing a divisor in the interval (y, z) in the regime z/y → ∞.
Significance. If the coupling error is controlled so that it is absorbed into the boundary terms, the reduction supplies a general and flexible strategy for a range of counting problems involving subsets of prime factorizations. The explicit reduction to boundary probabilities is a clear organizational strength and could extend to other divisor-distribution questions in analytic number theory.
major comments (2)
- [Introduction and §3 (general strategy)] The central reduction (stated after the convex-set inequality and before the application) asserts that the refined Arratia coupling produces no additional error beyond the two boundary probabilities. Because the coupling was originally established for a different class of sets, an explicit bound is required showing that the total-variation or Wasserstein distance remains o(1) uniformly for the preimage sets corresponding to divisors in (y, z) when z/y → ∞; without this, the main asymptotic term may be polluted.
- [§4 (application)] In the application to the divisor-counting problem (the theorem stated after the boundary-probability estimates), the claimed asymptotic is obtained once the two boundary probabilities are shown to be o(1). The manuscript must supply the explicit verification that these probabilities are indeed o(1) in the z/y → ∞ regime, together with the precise error term that results from the combination of the inequality and the coupling.
minor comments (2)
- [§4] Notation for the normalized exponent vector and the precise definition of the convex set should be recalled at the beginning of the application section for readability.
- [Introduction] A short remark comparing the obtained error term with existing results on divisor counts in short intervals would help situate the new asymptotic.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their thoughtful comments and positive evaluation of the paper's general strategy. We address each major comment below and will make the necessary revisions to strengthen the manuscript.
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Referee: [Introduction and §3 (general strategy)] The central reduction (stated after the convex-set inequality and before the application) asserts that the refined Arratia coupling produces no additional error beyond the two boundary probabilities. Because the coupling was originally established for a different class of sets, an explicit bound is required showing that the total-variation or Wasserstein distance remains o(1) uniformly for the preimage sets corresponding to divisors in (y, z) when z/y → ∞; without this, the main asymptotic term may be polluted.
Authors: We agree that an explicit bound on the coupling error is needed for the specific sets arising in the divisor problem. In the revised manuscript, we will include a detailed verification in §3 showing that the total variation distance between the coupled variables is o(1) uniformly in the regime z/y → ∞ for these preimage sets. This will be based on the refined Arratia coupling from our prior work and the specific geometry of the sets defined by having a divisor in (y,z). revision: yes
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Referee: [§4 (application)] In the application to the divisor-counting problem (the theorem stated after the boundary-probability estimates), the claimed asymptotic is obtained once the two boundary probabilities are shown to be o(1). The manuscript must supply the explicit verification that these probabilities are indeed o(1) in the z/y → ∞ regime, together with the precise error term that results from the combination of the inequality and the coupling.
Authors: We will add the explicit verification that the two boundary probabilities are o(1) as z/y → ∞, including the necessary estimates in §4. Furthermore, we will state the main theorem with the precise error term obtained from combining the comparison inequality and the coupling, ensuring the asymptotic formula is fully justified with the error terms made explicit. revision: yes
Circularity Check
New convex-set inequality and cited prior coupling yield non-circular reduction to boundary probabilities
full rationale
The paper introduces an original simple inequality comparing laws of random variables in convex subsets of a normed space. This is combined with the refined Arratia coupling established in prior work by Koukoulopoulos and the author. The resulting strategy genuinely reduces the asymptotic count to bounding two boundary-proximity probabilities, without any equation or claim that equates the final asymptotic to its inputs by construction. The self-citation supports an external tool (the coupling) rather than serving as the sole justification for the central claim. No self-definitional loop, fitted-input prediction, or ansatz smuggling occurs. The derivation remains self-contained with independent content from the new inequality.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption The refined Arratia coupling controls the joint distribution of prime factors sufficiently well for convex-set comparisons.
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We give a simple inequality that compares the laws of two random variables taking values in a convex subset of a normed vector space. By combining this with Arratia’s coupling... we obtain a general strategy to reduce... to bounding two key probabilities measuring proximity to the boundary
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unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
Theorem 3... νx(A)−μ(A) ≪ P⋆[{Primes(Nx,x),V}⊆∂max{Sx,Tx}A] + 1/log x
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