A Few Years Later: Revisiting Period Variations of Eclipsing Binaries in the Northern Continuous Viewing Zone of TESS
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Extended TESS data raises the count of likely hierarchical triple systems among Northern Continuous Viewing Zone eclipsing binaries from 135 to 168, with high-confidence confirmation for at least 66 and hints of fourth components or inclination shifts in others.
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Core claim
we have identified at least 66 short-period hierarchical triple stellar systems in the NCVZ with full confidence
Load-bearing premise
The observed eclipse timing variations and depth changes are produced by gravitational perturbations from a third (or fourth) star rather than by magnetic activity cycles, apsidal motion, or instrumental artifacts.
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In our previous analysis of the eclipse timing variation patterns of eclipsing binaries located in and near the Northern Continuous Viewing Zone (NCVZ) of the TESS space telescope, 135 hierarchical triple star candidates were found. Now, two additional years of TESS observations are available and, hence, we have extended the former analysis with the use of the new observational data. We now detect 168 triple star candidates in the updated and reanalyzed sample. The majority ($\sim74\%$) of them are identical to the former triples candidates. For many of them, our new solutions are more certain than the original ones. Therefore, we can now conclude that we have identified at least 66 short-period hierarchical triple stellar systems in the NCVZ with full confidence. In the case of the majority of the remaining systems in our sample, the presence of a close third stellar component appears to be very likely. We also identify additional, longer timescale period variations in 34 systems ($20\%$ of the total sample) and conclude that in at least three systems the presence of a fourth stellar component is quite plausible. Finally, we report the complete disappearance of the eclipses in two former EBs and detect eclipse depth variations in seven other EBs as well. We interpret this effect as the consequence of changing orbital inclination caused by a non-coplanar third body.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. This paper extends a prior study of eclipse timing variations (ETVs) in eclipsing binaries in the TESS Northern Continuous Viewing Zone by adding two years of new observations. It reports an increase from 135 to 168 triple-star candidates, with 66 now assigned 'full confidence' as short-period hierarchical systems based on refined ETV solutions. Additional results include longer-timescale variations in 34 systems (20%), plausible fourth components in at least three, complete eclipse disappearance in two former EBs, and eclipse-depth changes in seven others interpreted as inclination shifts from non-coplanar third bodies.
Significance. If the 'full confidence' assignments hold, the work enlarges the sample of well-characterized short-period hierarchical triples available for statistical studies of formation, stability, and dynamical evolution. The detections of longer-term variations, possible quadruples, and inclination-driven depth changes also add empirical cases for testing higher-order multiplicity and nodal precession effects.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that 66 systems are identified 'with full confidence' as short-period hierarchical triples rests on qualitative ETV pattern matching without reported quantitative thresholds (e.g., periodicity significance, amplitude consistency with third-body mass, or model-comparison statistics) to exclude alternatives such as magnetic activity cycles or apsidal motion. This attribution is load-bearing for the main result.
- [Results] Results section (reanalysis summary): The increase to 168 candidates and refined solutions for the overlapping systems are presented as consistent with added data volume, yet no explicit criteria for false-positive control or for assigning 'full confidence' versus 'very likely' are supplied, preventing independent assessment of the 66-system subset.
minor comments (2)
- The abstract states that ~74% of the new candidates are identical to the prior set but does not give the exact overlap count or selection criteria for the 33 new detections.
- Figure captions for ETV diagrams would benefit from explicit labels for the fitted periods and amplitudes to facilitate comparison with the text.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their detailed and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and will revise the paper to enhance transparency and rigor in our classification approach.
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The central claim that 66 systems are identified 'with full confidence' as short-period hierarchical triples rests on qualitative ETV pattern matching without reported quantitative thresholds (e.g., periodicity significance, amplitude consistency with third-body mass, or model-comparison statistics) to exclude alternatives such as magnetic activity cycles or apsidal motion. This attribution is load-bearing for the main result.
Authors: We agree that the manuscript would benefit from more explicit quantitative criteria. In the revised version, we will add a dedicated subsection describing the classification thresholds, including requirements for at least two full cycles of the ETV periodicity within the observational baseline, a statistically significant improvement in chi-squared when fitting a third-body model versus simpler (linear/quadratic) models, and consistency between the derived third-body mass and the observed ETV amplitude. We will also explicitly discuss how apsidal motion and magnetic activity are excluded based on the non-sinusoidal or non-quadratic shape of the ETV curves and the absence of correlated photometric variability. These additions will be placed in the Methods and Results sections. revision: yes
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Referee: [Results] Results section (reanalysis summary): The increase to 168 candidates and refined solutions for the overlapping systems are presented as consistent with added data volume, yet no explicit criteria for false-positive control or for assigning 'full confidence' versus 'very likely' are supplied, preventing independent assessment of the 66-system subset.
Authors: We acknowledge that the current text lacks a clear, reproducible classification scheme. We will insert a new subsection in the Results that defines the criteria: 'full confidence' systems require well-constrained periodic ETV solutions with low residuals, coverage of multiple cycles, and no evidence of alternative variability sources; 'very likely' systems show suggestive periodic signals but with higher residuals or incomplete cycle coverage. For false-positive mitigation, we will describe our checks against known stellar activity indicators from the TESS light curves and the use of the extended baseline to confirm that the signals persist and remain periodic. This will allow independent verification of the 66-system sample. revision: yes
Circularity Check
Minor self-citation to prior catalog; new results driven by extended TESS photometry
full rationale
The paper extends its own 2023 analysis of 135 candidates by incorporating two additional years of TESS photometry, yielding 168 candidates with 66 now assigned full confidence. The central claims rest on the new time-series data allowing more certain ETV solutions rather than any equation or parameter fitted in the cited prior work being reused as a prediction. Self-citation occurs but is not load-bearing for the updated conclusions, as the evidence is independent photometric measurements. No self-definitional steps, fitted inputs called predictions, uniqueness theorems, or ansatzes are present.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption Eclipse timing variations are dominated by the light-travel-time effect from a third body
Lean theorems connected to this paper
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IndisputableMonolith/Foundation/AlexanderDuality.leanalexander_duality_circle_linking unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
We now detect 168 triple star candidates... pure LTTE third body solutions... LTTE + DE third body solutions... ETVs ranked into the most certain (group L1) pure LTTE systems
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IndisputableMonolith/Cost/FunctionalEquation.leanwashburn_uniqueness_aczel unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
ΔLTTE = −(aAB sin i2 / c) ... f(mC) = mC³ sin³ i2 / mABC² ... ADE = (1/2π) (mC/mABC) (P1²/P2) ...
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