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One sightline, many systems: a FLASH discovery of HI towards scintillating quasar PKS 0405-385

E.F. Kerrison , H. Yoon , E.M. Sadler , Y. Kang , P.G. Edwards , A. Tuntsov , J.P. Pritchard , V.A. Moss

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E.K. Mahony H. Bignall J.N.H.S. Aditya J.R. Allison S. Curran R.D. Ekers M. Glowacki J. Stevens R. Su M. Whiting

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A single sightline to the quasar PKS 0405-385 reveals an intervening HI absorber at z = 0.882 along with two other independent metal-line absorption systems.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper reports the detection of neutral hydrogen gas in an intervening galaxy at redshift 0.882 through its 21 cm absorption line against the background quasar. Optical spectroscopy confirms matching metal absorption lines from magnesium and iron, and uncovers two additional metal systems at slightly higher redshifts. This shows how one background source can probe multiple gas structures at different cosmic epochs. The work also updates the estimated physical size of the quasar based on its radio variability, finding it larger than earlier estimates. Such discoveries help map the distribution of cool gas in the universe.

Core claim

The central discovery is an intervening 21 cm HI absorption line at z=0.882 towards the z=1.284 quasar PKS 0405-385, identified in the FLASH survey. Long-slit spectroscopy reveals consistent MgII and FeII lines at the same redshift, plus independent systems at z=0.907 and z=0.966. The quasar's linear size is revised to greater than 0.3 pc with no new evidence for repeating intraday variability.

What carries the argument

The combination of 21 cm HI absorption detection from the FLASH survey and follow-up optical long-slit spectroscopy to identify and confirm multiple intervening metal-line systems along the same sightline.

If this is right

Multiple independent intervening absorption systems can be identified along a single line of sight to a background quasar.
The FLASH survey successfully detects HI absorbers at intermediate redshifts.
The intrinsic linear size of PKS 0405-385 is larger than 0.3 parsecs, consistent with updated scintillation theory.
Radio variability monitoring with ATCA and ASKAP shows no repeating intraday variability.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

Intervening gas systems may be more common than previously thought along random sightlines through the universe.
Combining radio and optical observations of the same quasar provides a powerful way to study both Galactic scintillation and extragalactic absorbers.
Future surveys could use similar methods to build samples of HI absorbers with associated metal lines to study galaxy evolution.

Load-bearing premise

The detected absorption features are real intervening systems at the specified redshifts and not noise, artifacts, or gas physically associated with the quasar itself.

What would settle it

Deeper or higher-resolution spectroscopy that fails to detect the MgII and FeII lines at z=0.882 or shows significant velocity offsets from the HI absorption redshift.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.05479 by A. Tuntsov, E.F. Kerrison, E.K. Mahony, E.M. Sadler, H. Bignall, H. Yoon, J.N.H.S. Aditya, J.P. Pritchard, J.R. Allison, J. Stevens, M. Glowacki, M. Whiting, P.G. Edwards, R.D. Ekers, R. Su, S. Curran, V.A. Moss, Y. Kang.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: ASKAP spectrum of the intervening H I lines towards PKS 0405−385 . The velocity scale is relative to the systemic redshift of z = 0.88115. The y-axis indicates the absorption strength as a fraction of the continuum flux density. The grey band indicates 5× the per-channel noise, taken from a blank sky spectrum around the target. The spectrum of PKS 0405−385 is available from the public archivea , where it… view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Left: three colour image taken from DR10 of the Legacy Survey (Dey et al., 2019) of a region centred on PKS 0405−385. Five nearby galaxies visible in the image are identified as A–E. Galaxies A–D all have photometric redshifts from DR9 of the Legacy Survey within the range [0.8, 1.2] as indicated in the image, with Galaxy A closest to the redshift of the FLASH detection at z = 0.8 ± 0.3. Right: three colou… view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: The original optical spectrum from (Véron et al., 1990) (top) compared to our new spectrum taken with GMOS-S (bottom). Vertical lines indicate emission lines associated with background quasar PKS 0405−385 (red, solid), absorption lines associated with the intervening galaxy detected in FLASH data (blue, dot-dashed), and two further, previously unidentified intervening galaxies (orange, dashed and violet, d… view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Cutouts from the continuum-subtracted GMOS spectrum presented in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_4.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: The radio lightcurve of PKS 0405−385 compiled from targeted monitoring programmes C007, and C1730 (filled circles) with the ATCA, labelled as ‘ATCA calibrator database’. We additionally show the original, broadband fluxes from Kedziora-Chudczer et al. (1997) (stars), with an inset showing the IDV detected during those observations (bottom, left), as well as a later ATCA monitoring programme C2898 during wh… view at source ↗

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We report the discovery of an intervening 21\,cm absorption line at z = 0.882 towards the z = 1.284 quasar PKS 0405-385, identified in the First Large Absorption Survey in HI (FLASH). This quasar once displayed the most rapid known intraday variability at radio frequencies, from which it earned the title of `the smallest radio quasar'. Although its size was revised upwards soon after based on updated scattering theory, PKS 0405-385 remains an important probe of Galactic plasma, and now also of intervening gas discovered through HI absorption. We present new long-slit spectroscopy spanning both PKS 0405-385 and the candidate host of the intervening HI gas. We identify MgII and FeII absorption lines in this spectrum consistent with the redshift of the intervening HI, as well as two additional, independent metal-line systems at z = 0.907 and z = 0.966, but we cannot accurately pinpoint the host(s) of this intervening gas in current data. We revisit the radio variability of PKS 0405-385 in light of advances in scintillation theory, as well as extended monitoring with the Australia Telescope Compact Array and the Australian SKA Pathfinder, and find a revised linear size >0.3 pc, but no new evidence of repeating intraday variability.

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A clean observational report adding one new HI absorber at z=0.882 plus two metal systems toward PKS 0405-385, with a data-driven size revision to >0.3 pc.

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The core contribution is the detection of intervening 21 cm absorption at z=0.882 toward PKS 0405-385, backed by matching MgII and FeII lines from new long-slit spectroscopy, along with two separate metal-line systems at z=0.907 and 0.966. They also reprocess extended ATCA and ASKAP monitoring with updated scintillation theory and conclude there is no repeating intraday variability and a revised linear size exceeding 0.3 pc. The redshift agreement between the HI and metal features is the strongest internal check, and the spectroscopy that covers both the quasar and a candidate host galaxy is a practical addition even if the host remains unidentified. This adds a usable data point to the FLASH absorber sample and tightens constraints on this particular source's properties. The work stays observational and avoids overclaiming, which keeps the claims grounded. The main limitations are the lack of reported signal-to-noise values or error bars in the abstract and the absence of detailed contaminant checks or velocity offset analysis. One sightline cannot shift large-scale pictures in galaxy evolution or plasma physics, though it remains relevant for scintillation modeling of PKS 0405-385. The paper is aimed at researchers tracking HI absorber statistics or refining radio variability models for known sources. A reader building catalogs or updating this quasar's parameters will find the new redshifts and size limit directly usable. The reasoning is clear and the results are testable from the data shown, so it deserves a serious referee to verify the line identifications and error treatment.

Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript reports the discovery of an intervening 21 cm HI absorption line at z = 0.882 toward the z = 1.284 quasar PKS 0405-385, detected in the FLASH survey. New long-slit optical spectroscopy identifies Mg II and Fe II absorption consistent with this redshift, plus two additional independent metal-line systems at z = 0.907 and z = 0.966. The authors cannot pinpoint the host galaxy(s) of the intervening gas with current data. They also reanalyze the quasar's radio intraday variability using updated scintillation theory and new monitoring from ATCA and ASKAP, deriving a revised linear size lower limit >0.3 pc with no evidence for repeating IDV.

Significance. If the detections hold, this work adds a well-characterized multi-wavelength intervening absorber to the sample, linking 21 cm HI with metal lines along one sightline and providing constraints on the host environment. The updated size limit for PKS 0405-385 strengthens its utility as a probe of Galactic scintillation. Strengths include the use of new survey data for the HI detection, fresh spectroscopy for redshift confirmation, and extended radio monitoring with modern instruments; these are data-driven and avoid circular parameter fitting.

major comments (1)

[Abstract and Section 3 (spectroscopy and HI detection)] The central claim of a genuine intervening HI system at z=0.882 rests on the redshift match with the metal lines and the absence of contaminants. The manuscript should explicitly report the measured HI redshift with uncertainty, the velocity offset to the Mg II/Fe II lines (including error bars), and any quantitative check (e.g., S/N per channel or false-positive probability) that rules out noise or quasar-associated gas; without these, the identification remains plausible but not fully load-bearing.

minor comments (2)

[Abstract] The abstract omits signal-to-noise ratios, line widths, or error bars on the reported redshifts and size limit; adding these would improve clarity without altering the result.
[Section 4 (imaging/spectroscopy)] Figure captions and text should clarify the spatial extent of the long-slit spectroscopy and any seeing-limited constraints on host association.

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We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript, positive assessment of its significance, and recommendation for minor revision. We address the single major comment below and have revised the text to incorporate the requested details.

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Referee: [Abstract and Section 3 (spectroscopy and HI detection)] The central claim of a genuine intervening HI system at z=0.882 rests on the redshift match with the metal lines and the absence of contaminants. The manuscript should explicitly report the measured HI redshift with uncertainty, the velocity offset to the Mg II/Fe II lines (including error bars), and any quantitative check (e.g., S/N per channel or false-positive probability) that rules out noise or quasar-associated gas; without these, the identification remains plausible but not fully load-bearing.

Authors: We agree that explicit quantitative support strengthens the identification of the z=0.882 HI absorber. In the revised manuscript we have added to Section 3 the measured HI redshift and its uncertainty (obtained from a Gaussian fit to the absorption profile), the velocity offset between the HI line centroid and the Mg II/Fe II lines together with the propagated error, and the peak signal-to-noise ratio per channel of the HI detection. These values confirm consistency between the radio and optical redshifts within the uncertainties and establish the statistical significance of the 21 cm feature. We have also expanded the discussion of possible contaminants, noting that the velocity separation from the quasar redshift and the presence of two additional independent metal-line systems at different redshifts make a quasar-associated origin unlikely. A full Monte-Carlo false-positive probability is not computed in the current work, but the combination of the high-S/N detection with the optical confirmation renders noise or spurious identification improbable. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity in purely observational discovery report

full rationale

The paper presents direct observational results: detection of a 21 cm HI absorption line at z=0.882, confirmation via MgII and FeII metal lines at matching redshift from long-slit spectroscopy, identification of two additional metal systems, and a data-driven reanalysis of radio monitoring that yields a revised quasar size lower limit. No model derivations, equations, parameter fits subsequently treated as predictions, or self-citation chains appear in the provided text. All claims reduce to raw spectral features and monitoring data without internal reduction to the paper's own inputs or assumptions.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on standard astrophysical interpretations of spectral line redshifts and identifications without introducing new free parameters, invented entities, or ad-hoc axioms beyond domain conventions.

axioms (2)

domain assumption The 21 cm feature is neutral hydrogen absorption at the reported cosmological redshift
Standard radio astronomy interpretation invoked for the FLASH detection.
domain assumption MgII and FeII lines at matching redshift trace the same intervening gas as the HI line
Common assumption in multi-wavelength absorption studies used to confirm the system.

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