Sofic measures
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The pith
If an invariant sofic measure has an n-dimensional linear representation and is Markov, then it is at most 2^{n^2-1}-step Markov.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We prove that if an invariant sofic measure with a linear representation of dimension n is a k-step Markov chain, then k can be chosen at most equal to 2^{n^2-1}.
What carries the argument
The n-dimensional linear representation of the sofic measure, which encodes the evolution of the measure under the shift via matrix or vector operations.
Load-bearing premise
The measure is invariant under the shift and admits a finite-dimensional linear representation of size n.
What would settle it
An explicit invariant sofic measure with an n-dimensional linear representation that is Markov but requires order strictly larger than 2^{n^2-1} would falsify the bound.
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read the original abstract
Sofic measures, also known as hidden Markov measures, have been extensively studied. In this paper, we survey some equivalent definitions of this notion and improve a bound for deciding whether a sofic measure is~$k$-step Markov. We prove that if an invariant sofic measure with a linear representation of dimension~$n$ is a~$k$-step Markov chain, then~$k$ can be chosen at most equal to~$2^{n^2-1}$.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript surveys equivalent definitions of sofic measures (also called hidden Markov measures) and proves an improved bound: if an invariant sofic measure admits a linear representation of dimension n and is a k-step Markov chain, then k can be taken at most 2^{n^2-1}.
Significance. If the central claim holds, the result supplies an explicit, representation-dimension-dependent upper bound on Markov order for invariant sofic measures. The argument applies the pigeonhole principle to the finite collection of possible behaviors of the n-dimensional linear representation under the shift, using only the standard equivalence between sofic measures and such representations together with shift-invariance to guarantee a stationary initial vector. This strengthens prior bounds in symbolic dynamics and ergodic theory and could support algorithmic verification of the Markov property.
minor comments (2)
- The abstract states that equivalent definitions are surveyed, but the provided text does not enumerate or cross-reference them; the full manuscript should list the main equivalences and indicate which are used in the proof of the bound.
- The origin of the precise exponent 2^{n^2-1} is not explained in the abstract or the sketched argument; a short paragraph clarifying how the counting of distinct matrix-vector configurations under the shift produces this number (including the role of the -1) would improve readability without altering the result.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our manuscript and for recognizing the significance of the improved bound on Markov order for invariant sofic measures. The referee's summary accurately captures the paper's contribution.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; bound follows from pigeonhole on finite configurations
full rationale
The central result is a combinatorial bound: if an invariant sofic measure admits an n-dimensional linear representation and happens to be Markov of some order, then it is Markov of order at most 2^{n^2-1}. The proof applies the pigeonhole principle to the finite collection of distinct possible future behaviors encoded by vectors in R^n under the action of the n x n transition matrices. Invariance ensures the initial vector is stationary, but the repetition argument itself depends only on the finite dimensionality of the representation space and does not rely on any fitted parameter, self-referential definition, or load-bearing self-citation. The equivalence between sofic measures and linear representations is invoked as a standard external fact, not derived inside the paper. No step reduces the claimed bound to an input by construction.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Sofic measures admit equivalent definitions via finite automata and linear representations of finite dimension
- domain assumption The measure is invariant under the one-sided or two-sided shift
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