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Decoupling the AGN outflow and star-forming disk kinematics in the nuclear region of NGC 7582 with JWST NIRSpec and MIRI/MRS
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The pith
Kinematic stratification by ionization potential decouples the AGN outflow from the star-forming disk in NGC 7582.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Gaussian line-profile fitting reveals kinematic stratification: low-IP species (≲20 eV) trace ordered disk rotation with PA ∼−12±3°, while high-IP species (≳35 eV) follow the outflow with PA ∼54±10°. The outflowing gas exhibits higher velocity dispersions than the disk. For intermediate-IP lines a thin inclined disk plus one-dimensional outflow model separates the two velocity fields. The outflow is consistent with a hollow bicone capable of accelerating gas beyond the local escape velocity.
What carries the argument
Gaussian line-profile fitting of ionic emission lines spanning ionization potentials from ~8 to 126 eV, which separates the observed velocity fields into distinct disk and outflow components according to IP.
Load-bearing premise
The assumption that ionization potential cleanly divides the emitting gas into physically separate disk and outflow components without significant line-of-sight mixing or other blending processes.
What would settle it
A low-IP line such as [Ne II] displaying the outflow position angle and high velocities, or a high-IP line such as [Ne V] displaying the disk rotation curve, would falsify the claimed stratification.
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read the original abstract
We present a detailed study of the inner regions of NGC~7582, a nearby Seyfert~2 galaxy, from the Galaxy Activity, Torus and Outflow Survey (GATOS). The galaxy hosts a circumnuclear star-forming disk and an AGN-driven biconical ionised outflow. Using JWST NIRSpec and MIRI/MRS integral-field spectroscopy, we analyse ionic emission lines spanning a wide range of ionisation potentials (IPs, $\sim 8$--$126$ eV). Gaussian line-profile fitting reveals kinematic stratification: low-IP species ($\lesssim 20$ eV; e.g., [Fe II], [Ar II], [Ne II]) trace ordered disk rotation with PA $\sim -12 \pm 3^\circ$, while high-IP species ($\gtrsim 35$ eV; e.g., [O IV], [Mg IV], [Ne V]) follow the outflow with PA $\sim 54 \pm 10^\circ$. Outflowing gas exhibits systematically higher velocity dispersions ($119 \pm 13$ km/s) than the disk ($78 \pm 11$ km/s), consistent with turbulent or bulk motions. Intermediate-IP lines, [S III], [Ar III], and [Ne III], show contributions from both components, with the outflow characterised by higher dispersion, lower amplitude, and higher velocities in double-Gaussian fits. For these lines, a thin inclined disk plus one-dimensional outflow model enables robust separation and quantification of the disk and outflow velocity fields. The outflow is consistent with a hollow bicone capable of accelerating gas beyond the local escape velocity, implying most material is unlikely to be re-accreted. The ionisation cone opening angle shows no dependence on IP, indicating the AGN torus polar regions are largely unobscured. Our study provides new insights into AGN-driven outflows and circumnuclear disk dynamics, offering a framework to disentangle overlapping ISM kinematics in nearby active galaxies.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript analyzes JWST NIRSpec and MIRI/MRS integral-field spectroscopy of the nuclear region in the Seyfert 2 galaxy NGC 7582. Through Gaussian line-profile fitting of ionic emission lines with ionization potentials from ~8 to 126 eV, it identifies kinematic stratification where low-IP lines trace the star-forming disk rotation (PA ~ -12°), high-IP lines trace the AGN outflow (PA ~ 54°), and intermediate-IP lines are decomposed using a thin inclined disk plus one-dimensional outflow model. The study concludes that the outflow is consistent with a hollow bicone that can accelerate gas beyond escape velocity, with no IP dependence in the ionization cone opening angle.
Significance. If the kinematic separation is robust, the results provide a practical empirical framework for disentangling overlapping disk and outflow kinematics in nearby AGN hosts using multi-IP diagnostics from JWST data. This has clear significance for AGN feedback studies, outflow geometry, and gas dynamics in the nuclear ISM. The direct spectral fitting to observed profiles across a wide IP range, rather than derived quantities, is a methodological strength.
major comments (3)
- In the analysis of intermediate-IP lines ([S III], [Ar III], [Ne III]), the thin inclined disk plus one-dimensional outflow model is invoked for double-Gaussian decomposition. This assumes no significant line-of-sight overlap between components at the same spatial pixels and that the extracted disk velocity field matches the low-IP rotation (PA -12°). The manuscript does not report tests for degeneracies in the fit parameters or quantitative residuals comparing the disk component to pure low-IP tracers, which directly impacts the reliability of the reported PA values and stratification claim.
- The conclusion that the outflow (dispersion 119 ± 13 km/s) exceeds local escape velocity and implies most material is not re-accreted relies on the one-dimensional outflow parametrization and hollow bicone geometry. Potential projection ambiguities and the sensitivity of this result to the assumed velocity field or dispersion values are not quantified with alternative models or full error propagation.
- The methods and results sections lack a complete error budget for the Gaussian fits, explicit data exclusion criteria (e.g., S/N thresholds or spatial masking), and quantitative fit statistics such as reduced χ² or residual maps. These are needed to evaluate the choice of single- vs. double-Gaussian models and the robustness of the IP-based separation.
minor comments (3)
- The exact numerical boundaries used to classify lines as low-IP (≲20 eV), intermediate, and high-IP (≳35 eV) should be stated explicitly with justification, as borderline cases like [Ne III] could affect the stratification results.
- Figure captions and text should clarify how the position angle uncertainties (±3° disk, ±10° outflow) were derived and whether they incorporate covariance from the model fits.
- A brief comparison to prior ground-based or HST kinematic studies of NGC 7582 would help contextualize the new JWST constraints on the disk PA and outflow opening angle.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their thorough review and constructive feedback on our manuscript. We address each of the major comments below and have revised the manuscript accordingly where appropriate.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: In the analysis of intermediate-IP lines ([S III], [Ar III], [Ne III]), the thin inclined disk plus one-dimensional outflow model is invoked for double-Gaussian decomposition. This assumes no significant line-of-sight overlap between components at the same spatial pixels and that the extracted disk velocity field matches the low-IP rotation (PA -12°). The manuscript does not report tests for degeneracies in the fit parameters or quantitative residuals comparing the disk component to pure low-IP tracers, which directly impacts the reliability of the reported PA values and stratification claim.
Authors: We appreciate this point and agree that explicit tests would strengthen the analysis. While the model assumptions are justified by the clear kinematic separation seen in low- and high-IP lines, we will add in the revised manuscript Monte Carlo realizations of the fits to assess parameter degeneracies and provide quantitative residual comparisons between the modeled disk component and the observed low-IP velocity fields. These additions will confirm the robustness of the PA measurements and the overall stratification. revision: yes
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Referee: The conclusion that the outflow (dispersion 119 ± 13 km/s) exceeds local escape velocity and implies most material is not re-accreted relies on the one-dimensional outflow parametrization and hollow bicone geometry. Potential projection ambiguities and the sensitivity of this result to the assumed velocity field or dispersion values are not quantified with alternative models or full error propagation.
Authors: The one-dimensional model is a first-order approximation based on the observed line-of-sight velocities, and the hollow bicone is supported by the spatial distribution of high-IP emission. To address concerns about projection effects and sensitivity, we will include in the revision a discussion of possible alternative geometries and perform sensitivity analyses by perturbing the input velocity and dispersion values within their 1σ uncertainties. We will also provide propagated uncertainties on the escape velocity comparison. revision: partial
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Referee: The methods and results sections lack a complete error budget for the Gaussian fits, explicit data exclusion criteria (e.g., S/N thresholds or spatial masking), and quantitative fit statistics such as reduced χ² or residual maps. These are needed to evaluate the choice of single- vs. double-Gaussian models and the robustness of the IP-based separation.
Authors: We acknowledge the need for more detailed documentation. The original submission included S/N thresholds in Section 2, but we will expand the Methods section to provide a comprehensive error budget, explicitly state the S/N > 5 criterion and spatial masking procedures, and include reduced χ² values along with example residual maps for both single- and double-Gaussian fits. This will facilitate evaluation of the model selection and the IP-stratification results. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity in derivation chain
full rationale
The paper derives kinematic stratification and outflow properties directly from Gaussian line-profile fitting applied to the JWST NIRSpec and MIRI/MRS integral-field spectroscopy observations of ionic emission lines. Low-IP and high-IP species are separated by their observed velocity fields and dispersions, with intermediate-IP lines decomposed using a thin inclined disk plus one-dimensional outflow model fitted to the data. This constitutes standard observational analysis grounded in the spectra rather than any reduction of outputs to prior fitted quantities by construction, self-citation chains, or ansatzes smuggled from prior author work. The hollow-bicone consistency and escape-velocity implication follow from the fitted velocities compared to independent escape-velocity estimates, with no evidence of the central claims being equivalent to their inputs.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (3)
- Disk position angle
- Outflow position angle
- Velocity dispersion values
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Low-IP lines originate exclusively in the star-forming disk while high-IP lines originate in the AGN outflow
- domain assumption The geometry is well-described by a thin inclined disk plus a hollow bicone
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Works this paper leans on
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Allington-Smith J., et al., 2002, Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, 114, 892 Alonso-Herrero, A. et al., 2020, A&A, 639, A43 Alonso-Herrero A., et al., 2021, Astronomy & Astrophysics, 652, A99 Alonso-Herrero A., et al., 2024, Astronomy & Astrophysics, 690, A95 Alonso-Herrero A., et al., 2025, A&A, 699, A334 1 https://mast.stsci.edu/p...
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This line strongly traces the circumnuclear star-forming disk and is well fit by a single-Gaussian plus continuum fit
Raw Data Continuum Gaussian Fit Total Fit Figure A1.Representative single spaxel spectra around the [Ar II] line. This line strongly traces the circumnuclear star-forming disk and is well fit by a single-Gaussian plus continuum fit. Tozzi G., et al., 2024, Astronomy & Astrophysics, 690, A141 U V., et al., 2022, The Astrophysical Journal Letters, 940, L5 U...
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Raw Data Continuum Gaussian 1 (disk) Gaussian 2 (outflow) Total Fit Figure A3.Representative single spaxel spectra around the [Ne III] line. This line strongly traces both the circumnuclear star-forming disk and AGN driven outflow, and a double-Gaussian plus continuum profile provides a significantlybetterfitthanasingle-Gaussianpluscontinuum.However,these...
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