Ramsey numbers and Gallai--Ramsey numbers of disjoint unions of cherries
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The pith
The conjectured formula for Ramsey numbers of cherry unions fails in general, but holds for Gallai-Ramsey numbers.
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Core claim
The Ramsey number R(n1P3,…,nkP3) is not always equal to N = 2 max{ni} + sum ni - k + 1, as shown by the existence of specific k-edge-colorings of K_{N-1} that avoid a monochromatic niP3 in colour i for each i. Sufficient conditions on the ni are given under which the equality does hold. Every Gallai colouring of KN, however, must contain a monochromatic niP3 in some colour i, so the Gallai-Ramsey number GR(n1P3,…,nkP3) equals N for all positive integers ni and k.
What carries the argument
The quantity N = 2 max{n1,…,nk} + sum ni - k + 1, which the paper shows is always the exact value of the Gallai-Ramsey number but only sometimes the exact value of the ordinary Ramsey number for these cherry unions.
Load-bearing premise
Specific k-edge-colorings of K_{N-1} exist that avoid a monochromatic niP3 in each prescribed colour i.
What would settle it
A Gallai k-edge-coloring of K_{N-1} containing no monochromatic niP3 in colour i for any i would show that the Gallai-Ramsey number is smaller than N.
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For graphs $G_1,\ldots,G_k$, the Ramsey number $R(G_1,\ldots,G_k)$ is the smallest positive integer $N$ such that every $k$-edge-coloring of $K_N$ contains a monochromatic copy of $G_i$ in color $i$ for some $i\in[k]$. The Gallai--Ramsey number $GR(G_1,\ldots,G_k)$ is defined analogously, with the colorings restricted to Gallai colorings (i.e., edge-colorings with no rainbow triangle). A copy of $P_3$ is called a cherry. Let $n_iP_3$ denote the disjoint union of $n_i$ cherries. Wu, Magnant, Nowbandegani, and Xia (Discrete Appl. Math., 2019) proposed two conjectures: \[ R(n_1P_3,\ldots,n_kP_3)=N\ \text{and}\ GR(n_1P_3,\ldots,n_kP_3)=N\,, \] where $N=2\max\{n_1,\ldots,n_k\}+\sum_{i=1}^kn_i-k+1$. We disprove the Ramsey conjecture and provide some sufficient conditions for determining the exact value of $R(n_1P_3,\ldots,n_kP_3)$. In contrast, we confirm the Gallai--Ramsey conjecture.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript disproves the Ramsey conjecture of Wu et al. on R(n1P3,…,nkP3) by exhibiting counterexamples for certain tuples (n1,…,nk), supplies sufficient conditions under which the exact value of this multicolor Ramsey number can be determined, and proves that the corresponding Gallai–Ramsey number GR(n1P3,…,nkP3) equals the conjectured expression N=2max{ni}+∑ni−k+1.
Significance. If the counterexamples are correct, the work shows that the conjectured formula is not always exact for ordinary Ramsey numbers while holding under the Gallai-coloring restriction; the sufficient conditions and the GR proof together give a partial resolution of the two conjectures and new tools for evaluating Ramsey numbers of disjoint unions of P3’s.
major comments (2)
- [§3, Theorem 3.2] §3, Theorem 3.2 (counterexamples): the disproof of the Ramsey conjecture rests on the explicit construction of k-edge-colorings of K_{N−1} with no monochromatic niP3 in color i. The manuscript must supply the full definition of these colorings (including how the edges are partitioned) together with a self-contained argument that the matching number of each color class (in the P3 sense) is strictly less than ni; any gap in this verification would invalidate the disproof while leaving the GR result intact.
- [§4, Theorem 4.1] §4, Theorem 4.1 (sufficient conditions): the stated conditions for exact determination of R(n1P3,…,nkP3) are applied only after the counterexamples; it is unclear whether these conditions recover the conjectured value N precisely when the counterexamples do not apply, or whether additional cases remain open. A clarifying statement or table listing the tuples covered by each regime would strengthen the claim.
minor comments (2)
- [§2] Notation: the symbol n_iP_3 is introduced in the abstract but the precise definition (disjoint union of n_i copies of P_3, i.e., a matching of n_i edges) should be restated at the beginning of §2 for readers unfamiliar with the prior literature.
- [§5] The proof of the Gallai–Ramsey result in §5 invokes several auxiliary lemmas; a short roadmap paragraph at the start of the section would improve readability.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
Thank you for the thorough review and constructive comments. We address each major point below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to enhance clarity and rigor.
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Referee: [§3, Theorem 3.2] §3, Theorem 3.2 (counterexamples): the disproof of the Ramsey conjecture rests on the explicit construction of k-edge-colorings of K_{N−1} with no monochromatic niP3 in color i. The manuscript must supply the full definition of these colorings (including how the edges are partitioned) together with a self-contained argument that the matching number of each color class (in the P3 sense) is strictly less than ni; any gap in this verification would invalidate the disproof while leaving the GR result intact.
Authors: We agree that the construction requires a fully explicit and self-contained presentation. In the revised version, we will expand Theorem 3.2 to include the complete definition of the k-edge-coloring of K_{N-1} (specifying the partition of all edges into the k colors) together with a detailed, self-contained proof that the largest set of vertex-disjoint P3's in color i is at most n_i−1. This will eliminate any potential gaps and make the disproof of the Ramsey conjecture fully rigorous. revision: yes
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Referee: [§4, Theorem 4.1] §4, Theorem 4.1 (sufficient conditions): the stated conditions for exact determination of R(n1P3,…,nkP3) are applied only after the counterexamples; it is unclear whether these conditions recover the conjectured value N precisely when the counterexamples do not apply, or whether additional cases remain open. A clarifying statement or table listing the tuples covered by each regime would strengthen the claim.
Authors: We thank the referee for highlighting this point. The sufficient conditions of Theorem 4.1 are intended to apply exactly to those tuples (n1,…,nk) that avoid the counterexample families identified in Theorem 3.2, thereby recovering the conjectured value N. In the revision we will insert a clarifying paragraph immediately after Theorem 4.1 that explicitly relates the two results and add a short table (or enumerated list) of representative tuples covered by the sufficient conditions, together with the corresponding value of N. This will make the scope of each regime transparent and confirm that no further open cases are left under the stated conditions. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: disproof via explicit avoiding colorings and independent confirmation of Gallai-Ramsey conjecture
full rationale
The paper cites the 2019 conjectures of Wu et al. (distinct authors) as external statements to be tested. It disproves the Ramsey conjecture by constructing explicit k-edge-colorings of K_{N-1} that avoid monochromatic n_i P_3 in each color i, together with a direct combinatorial argument that each color class has matching number strictly less than n_i. It confirms the Gallai-Ramsey conjecture by a separate proof under the Gallai-coloring restriction. Neither step reduces to a self-definition, a fitted parameter renamed as prediction, a load-bearing self-citation, or an ansatz smuggled from prior work by the same authors. The derivation chain is self-contained against the stated external conjectures and does not rely on renaming known results or uniqueness theorems imported from the present authors.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption Standard definitions of multicolor Ramsey numbers and Gallai colorings (no rainbow triangle) are used without modification.
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