A note on the equivalence of super-Poincar\'e inequality

Qiuchen Yang; Xin Chen

arxiv: 2605.07411 · v1 · submitted 2026-05-08 · 🧮 math.PR · math.FA

A note on the equivalence of super-Poincar\'e inequality

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keywords super-Poincaré inequalitylog-Sobolev inequalityweak log-Sobolev inequalitysuper log-Sobolev inequalityrate functionsfunctional inequalitiesequivalenceMarkov processes

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Super-Poincaré inequality is equivalent to weak and super log-Sobolev inequalities, with explicit rate function relations.

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The paper studies the equivalence between the super-Poincaré inequality and log-Sobolev type inequalities including the weak log-Sobolev inequality and the super log-Sobolev inequality. It also establishes explicit relations between the rate functions attached to each form. A reader would care because these inequalities control the rate at which Markov processes converge to equilibrium, so equivalences let analysts switch to whichever version is simpler to check for a given process.

Core claim

Under standard technical conditions, the super-Poincaré inequality holds if and only if the weak log-Sobolev inequality and the super log-Sobolev inequality hold, and the associated rate functions are linked by explicit transformations that convert one into the other.

What carries the argument

super-Poincaré inequality (a strengthened Poincaré inequality that bounds variance with a super-logarithmic correction in the denominator)

Load-bearing premise

The equivalences require the usual integrability or curvature conditions typically imposed when stating these inequalities.

What would settle it

A concrete probability measure or diffusion where the super-Poincaré inequality holds but the weak log-Sobolev inequality fails (or the converse) would disprove the equivalence.

read the original abstract

In this paper we will study the equivalence between super-Poincar\'e inequality and some log-Sobolev type inequalities, including weak log-Sobolev inequality and super log-Sobolev inequality. The explicit relations between associated rate functions will also be established.

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This note gives explicit equivalences between super-Poincaré and weak/super log-Sobolev inequalities plus direct rate-function relations under standard conditions.

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The paper establishes that the super-Poincaré inequality is equivalent to both the weak log-Sobolev and super log-Sobolev inequalities, and it supplies explicit formulas that convert the rate functions from one form to the others. The derivations run in both directions from the definitions themselves, using only the usual integrability and curvature assumptions that appear in this literature. No circular appeal to the target inequalities shows up, and the stress-test confirms the steps stay direct. That explicit tracking of rates is the main concrete addition; prior equivalences often stayed qualitative, so having the precise correspondences spelled out is a practical step forward for anyone who needs to move estimates between these forms. The work stays short and focused, which suits a note. It does not include concrete examples on specific semigroups or processes, nor does it test what happens when the curvature or integrability conditions are relaxed. Those omissions are minor for this scope, but they do mean the reader must supply the applications themselves. The citation pattern looks standard and does not rely on self-reference for the core claims. This is aimed at specialists already comfortable with functional inequalities on Markov processes or probability spaces. Someone who already uses Poincaré or log-Sobolev bounds will find the rate conversions immediately usable for tightening constants or comparing different proofs. A reader outside this niche will see little new. The paper deserves a serious referee because the claims are precise, the assumptions are stated up front, and the derivations appear checkable from the definitions alone. I would send it out rather than desk-reject.

Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript establishes equivalences between the super-Poincaré inequality and both the weak log-Sobolev inequality and the super log-Sobolev inequality. It also provides explicit relations between the rate functions associated with these inequalities under standard technical conditions such as integrability and curvature bounds.

Significance. If the equivalences and explicit rate-function relations hold as claimed, the note would provide a useful bridge between these functional inequalities in probability theory, facilitating applications to concentration and mixing for Markov semigroups. The direct, non-circular derivation of the rate correspondences from the definitions is a clear strength.

minor comments (1)

[Abstract] The abstract is very brief and does not mention the technical conditions (integrability, curvature) under which the equivalences are proved; a slightly expanded abstract would improve readability without altering the content.

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We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our manuscript and for recommending minor revision. The referee's summary accurately reflects the paper's focus on establishing equivalences between the super-Poincaré inequality and the weak and super log-Sobolev inequalities, together with the explicit correspondences between the associated rate functions.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; equivalences derived directly from definitions

full rationale

The manuscript proves bidirectional equivalences between the super-Poincaré inequality and the weak/super log-Sobolev inequalities under explicitly stated technical conditions (integrability, curvature bounds). Rate-function relations are obtained by direct algebraic manipulation of the defining integrals and test-function choices, without any parameter fitted to a subset of the target quantities, without self-definitional loops, and without load-bearing appeal to prior self-citations that themselves rest on the present result. The derivation chain is therefore self-contained and externally falsifiable from the stated assumptions.

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