Cullen and Woodall numbers in Padovan and Perrin sequences
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The pith
1 and 7 are the only Woodall numbers in the Padovan sequence, and 3 is the only Cullen number in the Perrin sequence.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We prove that 1 and 7 are the only Woodall numbers in the Padovan sequence, and that 3 is the only Cullen number in the Perrin sequence.
What carries the argument
Direct term-by-term comparison of the Padovan and Perrin sequences (defined by the shared recurrence U_{n+3} = U_{n+1} + U_n together with their listed initial conditions) against the closed forms m·2^m - 1 and m·2^m + 1.
If this is right
- No larger Woodall number satisfies the Padovan recurrence.
- No larger Cullen number satisfies the Perrin recurrence.
- The only solutions to P_n = m·2^m - 1 are the two listed pairs (n, m).
- The only solution to R_n = m·2^m + 1 is the listed pair (n, m).
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same comparison technique could be applied to intersections of these recurrent sequences with other exponential families such as Mersenne numbers.
- Growth-rate mismatch between linear recurrence and exponential form limits coincidences to small indices across many similar pairs of sequences.
- Explicit bounds on n derived in the proofs could be reused to search computationally for any missed solutions at moderate sizes.
Load-bearing premise
Every term of each sequence is produced exactly by the given recurrence from the stated initial values, so the sequences are fully known for comparison.
What would settle it
An integer n and m > 1 such that the nth Padovan number equals m·2^m - 1 (beyond the known cases) or the nth Perrin number equals m·2^m + 1 (beyond the known case).
read the original abstract
Let $\{P_n\}_{n\ge 0}$ and $\{R_n\}_{n\ge 0}$ denote the Padovan and Perrin sequences, both satisfying the recurrence $U_{n+3} = U_{n+1} + U_n$, but with initial values $P_0 = P_1 = P_2 = 1$ and $R_0 = 3$, $R_1 = 0$, $R_2 = 2$, respectively. A \textit{Cullen number} is a positive integer of the form $m\cdot 2^m + 1$ for some integer $m \ge 1$, while a \textit{Woodall number} is a positive integer of the form $m\cdot 2^m - 1$ for some integer $m \ge 1$. In this paper, we determine all Woodall numbers in the Padovan sequence and all Cullen numbers in the Perrin sequence. Specifically, we prove that $1$ and $7$ are the only Woodall numbers in the Padovan sequence, and that $3$ is the only Cullen number in the Perrin sequence.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper proves that the only Woodall numbers in the Padovan sequence {P_n} are 1 and 7, and that the only Cullen number in the Perrin sequence {R_n} is 3. Both sequences satisfy the recurrence U_{n+3}=U_{n+1}+U_n with the given initial conditions; Cullen numbers are of the form m·2^m +1 and Woodall numbers m·2^m -1 (m≥1). The proof proceeds by direct verification for small indices followed by growth-rate or modular arguments excluding solutions for large indices.
Significance. If the result holds, it supplies complete, explicit resolutions to two concrete Diophantine intersection problems between linear-recurrence sequences and the Cullen/Woodall families. Such classifications are of interest in number theory; the manuscript follows the standard small-case-plus-asymptotic-exclusion template for this class of questions and contains no free parameters or ad-hoc assumptions.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: the statement that a complete proof is supplied is accurate only if the body contains the full case analysis and bounds; a one-sentence outline of the large-index argument would improve readability.
- The initial conditions and recurrence are stated clearly, but the paper would benefit from an explicit remark that the sequences are uniquely determined for all n by the linear recurrence (standard fact) before the comparison with Cullen/Woodall forms begins.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive summary, the assessment of significance, and the recommendation of minor revision. No major comments appear in the report.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity detected
full rationale
The paper establishes Diophantine non-intersection results by comparing terms of the Padovan and Perrin sequences (uniquely fixed for all indices by the given linear recurrence and initial conditions) against the explicit closed forms of Woodall and Cullen numbers. The argument proceeds via exhaustive small-index enumeration followed by growth-rate or modular-arithmetic exclusion for large indices; none of these steps reduces to a fitted parameter, a self-referential definition, or a load-bearing self-citation. The derivation is therefore self-contained against the external definitions supplied in the paper.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- domain assumption The sequences satisfy the recurrence U_{n+3} = U_{n+1} + U_n for all n with the specified initial conditions.
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