Many holes but no large one: maximizing k-holes while forbidding (k+1)-holes
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The pith
Point sets without any empty (k+1)-gon contain at most 2 to the power of (n minus k) empty k-gons when n minus k is small.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The central claim is that the extremal function m_{k,k+1,k+a} equals 2^a whenever a is at most k/2 minus 1, and that this value is attained by explicitly described configurations of k+a points in general position with no empty (k+1)-gon.
What carries the argument
The extremal function m_{k,ℓ,n} that records the largest number of empty k-gons in any n-point set containing no empty ℓ-gon.
If this is right
- The bound is achieved only by certain extremal configurations whose structure is fully described in the paper.
- When n equals alpha times k for fixed alpha, the paper supplies matching-style upper and lower bounds on the same function m.
- For fixed k and n tending to infinity the number of k-holes is at least on the order of n to the floor of k over 3 and at most on the order of n to the ceiling of k over 2 plus 1.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The exact power-of-two count for small excess suggests that the allowed configurations are built by successively adding one of two possible positions for each extra point.
- The polynomial growth rates for large n may connect to known results on the number of empty polygons in sets with bounded convex-layer depth.
- If the upper bound O(n^{ceil(k/2)+1}) can be improved, it would tighten the gap with the Omega(n^{floor(k/3)}) lower bound.
Load-bearing premise
Absence of every (k+1)-hole plus general position restricts the possible arrangements enough that the number of k-holes cannot exceed 2^a for small a.
What would settle it
A concrete set of k plus a points in general position with no empty (k+1)-gon but strictly more than 2^a empty k-gons, for some a at most k/2 minus 1.
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read the original abstract
We study the maximal number $m_{k,\ell,n}$ of empty convex $k$-gons ($k$-holes) determined by an $n$-point set in the plane in general position that contains no empty convex $\ell~$-gon, focusing on the first nontrivial case $\ell=k+1$. Our main result determines the exact value in the small-excess regime: for $n=k+a$ with $a\le k/2-1$, we prove $m_{k,k+1,k+a}=2^a.$ We also describe the extremal configurations attaining equality. Beyond this exact range, we provide upper and lower bounds in the proportional regime $n=\alpha k$ and in the regime where $k$ is fixed and $n$ goes to infinity. In the last mentioned regime we prove that $m_{k,k+1,n}=\Omega_k(n^{\lfloor\frac{k}{3}\rfloor})$ and $m_{k,k+1,n}=O_k(n^{\lceil\frac{k}{2}\rceil+1}).$
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper defines m_{k,ℓ,n} as the maximum number of empty convex k-gons in an n-point set in the plane in general position with no empty ℓ-gon, and focuses on the case ℓ=k+1. Its central result is the exact determination m_{k,k+1,k+a}=2^a for a≤k/2−1 together with an explicit description of the extremal point sets attaining the bound; it further supplies asymptotic upper and lower bounds in the regimes n=αk and fixed k with n→∞ (specifically Ω_k(n^{⌊k/3⌋}) and O_k(n^{⌈k/2⌉+1})).
Significance. If the exact count holds, the result supplies a clean combinatorial classification in the small-excess regime and explicit extremal examples, which is a substantive contribution to the study of holes in point sets. The growth-rate bounds for larger n are consistent with known techniques in the area and add quantitative information.
minor comments (4)
- [§2] §2, Definition 2.1: the phrase 'in general position' is used before its precise meaning (no three collinear) is stated; move the definition earlier or cross-reference it.
- [Theorem 1.1] Theorem 1.1: the statement of the extremal configurations would benefit from a short illustrative figure for a=2 or a=3 showing the two choices per added point.
- [§4.2] §4.2, proof of the upper bound: the induction step invokes a charging argument whose base case for a=0 is only sketched; a one-sentence recap of the a=0 case would improve readability.
- [§5] The O_k(n^{⌈k/2⌉+1}) bound in the large-n regime is stated without an explicit reference to the underlying convex-layer or order-type argument; adding a one-line pointer to the relevant lemma would help.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our manuscript, the accurate summary of our results, and the recommendation for minor revision. No major comments appear in the report.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; direct combinatorial classification
full rationale
The central result m_{k,k+1,k+a}=2^a is obtained by explicit classification of admissible point sets under the no-(k+1)-hole condition plus general position. The abstract and reader's summary indicate a direct proof that enumerates extremal configurations attaining equality, with no fitted parameters, no self-citation chains, and no reduction of the claimed equality to its own inputs by construction. The derivation therefore remains self-contained against external combinatorial benchmarks.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Point sets are in general position (no three collinear).
- standard math A k-hole is defined as an empty convex k-gon spanned by the points.
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