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Conjugacy Distinguished Cosets in Hyperbolic 3-Manifold Groups

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Cosets of abelian subgroups are conjugacy distinguished in finite-volume hyperbolic 3-manifold groups

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The paper shows that in the group Γ of a finite-volume hyperbolic 3-manifold, any coset of an abelian subgroup is conjugacy distinguished. This means the set of all its conjugates forms a closed set in the profinite topology. Readers care because it provides a way to use finite group quotients to detect when an element is not conjugate to anything in the coset. The paper also proves that cosets of loxodromic subgroups can be distinguished from maximal parabolic subgroups using similar methods.

Core claim

If M = ℍ³/Γ is a hyperbolic 3-manifold of finite volume, g ∈ Γ, and H is an abelian subgroup of Γ, then the coset gH is conjugacy distinguished in Γ. A subset S ⊂ G is conjugacy distinguished from a class of subgroups if for every K in the class disjoint from the union of conjugates of S, there is a homomorphism to a finite group separating them. The paper extends this to show a coset of a loxodromic subgroup is conjugacy distinguished from the class of maximal parabolic subgroups of Γ.

What carries the argument

The definition of conjugacy distinguished cosets, using the profinite topology and homomorphisms to finite groups to separate them from other elements or subgroup classes.

Load-bearing premise

The 3-manifold has finite volume, which ensures the group has the necessary subgroup structure and residual finiteness properties.

What would settle it

A concrete falsifier would be an explicit finite-volume hyperbolic 3-manifold and an abelian subgroup H with g such that no finite quotient separates a non-conjugate element from the conjugates of gH.

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A subset $S$ of a group $G$ is \emph{conjugacy distinguished} if the union of all conjugates of $S$ is closed in the profinite topology on $G$. We prove that if $M = \mathbb{H}^3/\Gamma$ is a hyperbolic $3$-manifold of finite volume, $g \in \Gamma$, and $H$ is an abelian subgroup of $\Gamma$, then the coset $gH$ is conjugacy distinguished in $\Gamma$. A subset $S \subset G$ is \emph{conjugacy distinguished from a class of subgroups} if, for every $K$ in the class that is disjoint from the union of conjugates of $S$, there exists a homomorphism $\varphi \colon G \rightarrow F$, where $F$ is a finite group, such that $\varphi(K)$ is disjoint from the union of conjugates of $\varphi(S)$. In previous work, we proved that if $M = \mathbb{H}^3/\Gamma$ is a hyperbolic $3$-manifold of finite volume, then a coset of a maximal parabolic subgroup with cusp $C$ is conjugacy distinguished from the class of maximal parabolic subgroups of $\Gamma$ with cusps distinct from $C$. We extend this result by proving that a coset of a loxodromic subgroup is conjugacy distinguished from the class of maximal parabolic subgroups of $\Gamma$.

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Summary. The paper proves that if M = ℍ³/Γ is a finite-volume hyperbolic 3-manifold, g ∈ Γ and H ≤ Γ is abelian, then the coset gH is conjugacy distinguished in Γ (i.e., the union of its conjugates is closed in the profinite topology). It further proves that a coset of a loxodromic subgroup is conjugacy distinguished from the class of all maximal parabolic subgroups of Γ, extending the authors' prior result on cosets of maximal parabolics being distinguished from those with distinct cusps.

Significance. If the proofs hold, the results add to the catalog of separability and residual-finiteness properties for Kleinian groups of finite covolume, using the finite-volume hypothesis to guarantee the existence of finite quotients that separate the relevant cosets from conjugates or from the parabolic class. Such statements are relevant to questions about the profinite topology on 3-manifold groups and the closure of conjugacy classes.

minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] The transition from the definition of conjugacy distinguished sets to the definition of conjugacy distinguished from a class (both in the abstract and presumably §1) would benefit from an explicit sentence recalling how the prior parabolic result fits the new definition.
  2. [Introduction] Notation for the profinite topology and for the union of conjugates of a set S should be introduced once in §1 and used consistently; occasional reliance on verbal description makes some statements harder to parse.

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We thank the referee for their summary of our results and for recommending minor revision. No specific major comments appear in the report.

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full rationale

The paper states new theorems extending the authors' prior result on parabolic cosets to loxodromic cosets and abelian cosets, using residual finiteness and separability of finite-volume Kleinian groups (established independently in the literature). The self-citation to prior work is mentioned only to frame the extension and is not the sole justification for the central claims. No equations, definitions, or steps reduce by construction to inputs, fitted parameters, or unverified self-citations. The derivation relies on external group-theoretic properties rather than self-referential closure.

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Only the abstract is available, preventing a complete audit of assumptions used in the proof. The results implicitly rely on standard properties of hyperbolic 3-manifold groups.

axioms (2)
  • domain assumption Fundamental groups of finite-volume hyperbolic 3-manifolds admit sufficiently many homomorphisms to finite groups to separate the relevant cosets in the profinite topology.
    Required for the definition and proof of conjugacy distinguishedness.
  • domain assumption The subgroup structure (abelian, loxodromic, parabolic) of these groups is determined by the geometry of the manifold.
    Used to classify the cosets in the statements.

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