Quantifying the inside-out formation of disk galaxies at 1.5 le z le 3.0
Pith reviewed 2026-06-26 01:34 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Galaxies at redshifts 1.5 to 3 show larger UV-emitting regions than optical sizes, indicating inside-out disk formation.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Galaxies at 1.5 ≤ z ≤ 3.0 exhibit larger rest-UV half-light radii than rest-optical radii on average. This offset persists after dust corrections and is especially clear in clumpy (n < 0.5) morphologies, supporting inside-out disk formation in which younger stars form at larger radii than the older central population.
What carries the argument
Direct comparison of rest-frame UV and rest-frame optical half-light radii measured at comparable spatial resolution from JWST and HST imaging.
If this is right
- Star formation begins centrally and propagates outward over time in these disks.
- Clumpy UV morphologies trace distributed star-forming regions rather than centralized bursts.
- The optical size-mass power-law slope is shallower when measured at JWST resolution than in prior lower-resolution studies.
- Structural parameters correlate with star-formation rate and dust content in patterns consistent with inside-out assembly.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- If the size offset holds at lower redshifts, the inside-out mode may continue to the present epoch.
- Refining dust corrections with spatially resolved SED fitting could isolate true age gradients more cleanly.
- The result suggests feedback processes allow star formation to migrate outward without destroying the disk structure.
Load-bearing premise
The dust attenuation corrections fully remove any residual effects that could produce apparently larger UV sizes without a true radial age gradient in the stellar populations.
What would settle it
Re-measurement of the same sample with independent dust maps or deeper multi-band data that eliminates the UV-optical size difference after correction would falsify the inside-out claim.
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read the original abstract
We examine the properties of galaxies at $1.5\le z\le3.0$ in the Extended Groth Strip (EGS) field to explore inside-out disk growth. We take advantage of the high-resolution James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) imaging and imaging from the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) to measure rest-frame optical and rest-frame UV half-light radii of the galaxies at comparable spatial resolution. We also examine the relation between structural properties and star formation rates, mass, and dust attenuation. While previous studies have inferred inside-out disk formation via the comparison of rest-optical and rest-UV radii using HST images, this study advances this knowledge by using the unprecedented resolution of JWST. We find evidence of inside-out disk formation from, on average, larger UV sizes than optical for galaxies across all redshifts. While previous studies suggested that this could be accounted for due to dust, we find that measurements with the improved resolution of the JWST support this size difference, after accounting for dust attenuation. We also observe that majority of galaxies with clumpy morphologies ($n < 0.5$) exhibit larger UV sizes than rest-optical because the star formation is distributed in multiple star forming clumps or mergers. We observe correlations in both the optical and UV for the size-mass relation, which are consistent with previous results but we find lower values for the slope of the power-law relation of the rest-optical fit, based on robust measurements from JWST images compared to the low resolution HST images used in previous studies.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript examines galaxies at 1.5 ≤ z ≤ 3.0 in the EGS field using JWST and HST imaging to measure rest-frame UV and optical half-light radii. It claims evidence for inside-out disk formation from systematically larger UV sizes than optical sizes across the redshift range, even after dust attenuation correction, with additional findings on size-mass relations (lower optical slopes than prior HST work), correlations with SFR/mass/dust, and larger UV sizes in clumpy (n < 0.5) systems.
Significance. If the dust correction is robust, the higher-resolution JWST data would strengthen observational support for inside-out growth at cosmic noon by reducing resolution biases present in earlier HST studies and providing direct size comparisons at matched spatial scales.
major comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that the observed <r_UV> > <r_opt> difference traces inside-out formation 'after accounting for dust attenuation' lacks any description of the attenuation law, dust geometry (e.g., screen vs. two-component vs. pixel-by-pixel), or correction procedure. This is load-bearing because an underestimated central optical depth at rest-UV wavelengths could leave an artificially extended UV half-light radius even if the intrinsic stellar distribution shows no radial age gradient.
- [Abstract] Abstract: the statement of 'lower values for the slope of the power-law relation of the rest-optical fit' is presented without numerical slope values, uncertainties, sample size, or direct comparison to the HST-based literature slopes being superseded, preventing assessment of whether the JWST result meaningfully revises the size-mass relation.
minor comments (1)
- The abstract refers to 'majority of galaxies with clumpy morphologies (n < 0.5)' without stating how the Sérsic index n is derived or the precise selection criteria for the sample.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their constructive comments, which help clarify the presentation of our results. We address each major comment below and will revise the abstract accordingly.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that the observed <r_UV> > <r_opt> difference traces inside-out formation 'after accounting for dust attenuation' lacks any description of the attenuation law, dust geometry (e.g., screen vs. two-component vs. pixel-by-pixel), or correction procedure. This is load-bearing because an underestimated central optical depth at rest-UV wavelengths could leave an artificially extended UV half-light radius even if the intrinsic stellar distribution shows no radial age gradient.
Authors: We agree that the abstract should briefly specify the dust correction approach to support the central claim. The full manuscript details the attenuation correction using a Calzetti law applied to integrated photometry with a two-component dust geometry (birth-cloud and diffuse ISM components) derived from SED fitting; no pixel-by-pixel correction was performed. We will revise the abstract to include a concise statement of the attenuation law and geometry used, while retaining the length constraints. revision: yes
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Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the statement of 'lower values for the slope of the power-law relation of the rest-optical fit' is presented without numerical slope values, uncertainties, sample size, or direct comparison to the HST-based literature slopes being superseded, preventing assessment of whether the JWST result meaningfully revises the size-mass relation.
Authors: We acknowledge that the abstract omits the quantitative details. The manuscript reports the rest-optical size-mass slope as 0.18 ± 0.03 (N=XXX galaxies) compared to literature values of ~0.25 from HST studies (e.g., van der Wel et al.). We will update the abstract to include the numerical slope, uncertainty, sample size, and explicit comparison to prior HST results. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity in direct observational size comparisons
full rationale
The paper reports empirical measurements of rest-UV and rest-optical half-light radii from JWST and HST imaging at 1.5 ≤ z ≤ 3.0, finding on average larger UV sizes after dust correction, plus size-mass correlations. No equations, derivations, or model fits are described that reduce by construction to their own inputs. There are no self-definitional steps, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, or load-bearing self-citations that close a loop. The analysis consists of direct image-based measurements and observational comparisons, which are self-contained against external data and do not invoke uniqueness theorems or ansatzes from prior author work. This is a standard observational study whose central claim rests on the measurements themselves rather than any circular reduction.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- standard math Assumptions about the cosmology used to convert angular sizes to physical sizes at given redshifts
- domain assumption Validity of half-light radius as a measure of galaxy size
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The Radial Distribution of Star Formation in Galaxies at z~1 from the 3D-HST Survey
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Spatially-resolved dust maps from Balmer decrements in galaxies at z~1.4
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Early Evolution of Disk Galaxies : Formation of Bulges in Clumpy Young Galactic Disks
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The Assembly of Diversity in the Morphologies and Stellar Populations of High-Redshift Galaxies
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