Character sums over smooth numbers
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The pith
The average over characters mod q of the absolute sum of χ(n) over y-smooth n ≤ x equals o of sqrt(Ψ(x,y)) when y lies between (log x)^6 and x to the 1 over 32 log log x and q exceeds x to the 1+ε.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We show that 1/φ(q) ∑_χ |∑_{n≤x, P(n)≤y} χ(n)| = o(√Ψ(x,y)) whenever (log x)^6 ≤ y ≤ x^{1/(32 log log x)} and q ≥ x^{1 + ε} for some small quantifiable ε > 0. The saving is substantial when ε is fixed away from zero, and we prove similar results for continuous characters and completely multiplicative twists of these sums.
What carries the argument
The quantity (1/φ(q)) ∑_χ |∑_{n≤x, P(n)≤y} χ(n)|, the average absolute character sum over y-smooth numbers, which is shown to lie below the square-root size √Ψ(x,y) by a factor tending to zero.
If this is right
- The saving becomes a fixed positive proportion of √Ψ(x,y) whenever ε stays bounded away from zero.
- The same o(√Ψ) upper bound holds when the sum is taken against a continuous character in place of a Dirichlet character.
- The same o(√Ψ) upper bound holds after twisting the sum by any completely multiplicative function.
- The result applies throughout the full interval of y given by the two explicit thresholds involving log x and log log x.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The bound supplies a tool for counting y-smooth numbers lying in a fixed arithmetic progression when the common difference is larger than x.
- Numerical checks for moderate x could verify whether the o term approaches zero at a rate consistent with the proof's implicit constants.
- Improving the exponent 1/32 would immediately enlarge the range of y for which the saving is available.
Load-bearing premise
The estimates from the large sieve or bilinear forms must succeed all the way down to y as small as (log x)^6 and up to y as large as x to the power 1 over 32 log log x while still producing the o saving for q at least x to the 1+ε.
What would settle it
An explicit sequence of x, y, q satisfying the stated ranges for which the left-hand side stays at least c √Ψ(x,y) for some fixed c > 0 would falsify the claim that the average is always o of the square root.
read the original abstract
Let $\Psi (x,y)$ denote the count of $y$-smooth numbers below $x$ and $P(n)$ denote the largest prime factor of $n$. We show that \[ \frac{1}{\varphi(q)} \sum_{\chi \bmod q} \Bigl| \sum_{\substack{n \leq x \\ P(n) \leq y}} \chi(n) \Bigr| = o \Bigl( \sqrt{\Psi(x,y)} \Bigr), \] whenever $(\log x)^6 \leq y \leq x^{\frac{1}{32 \log \log x}}$ and $q \geq x^{1 + \varepsilon}$ for some small quantifiable $\varepsilon > 0$. The saving is substantial when $\varepsilon$ is fixed away from zero, and we prove similar results for continuous characters and completely multiplicative twists of these sums.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript proves that (1/φ(q)) ∑_χ |∑_{n≤x, P(n)≤y} χ(n)| = o(√Ψ(x,y)) for (log x)^6 ≤ y ≤ x^{1/(32 log log x)} and q ≥ x^{1+ε} (with a small quantifiable ε>0), along with analogous results for continuous characters and completely multiplicative twists.
Significance. If correct, the result gives a non-trivial average bound on character sums over smooth numbers in a range extending up to a subpolynomial power of x. This is potentially useful for applications involving smooth numbers in short intervals or arithmetic progressions. The o(√Ψ) saving is explicit and the range for y is stated with concrete exponents.
major comments (1)
- [Main theorem statement and the section deriving the range for y] The upper limit y ≤ x^{1/(32 log log x)} is load-bearing for the full statement of the theorem. The derivation of the specific constant 1/32 from the large-sieve or bilinear-form estimates (presumably in the main argument) must be checked to confirm that the o(√Ψ) saving is obtained uniformly over the entire claimed interval; a weaker exponent would mean the bound fails to hold for y near the upper end.
minor comments (1)
- [Main theorem] The dependence of the implied constant on ε should be made explicit in the theorem statement rather than described only as 'small quantifiable'.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript and for highlighting the importance of verifying the range of y in the main theorem. We address the single major comment below.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Main theorem statement and the section deriving the range for y] The upper limit y ≤ x^{1/(32 log log x)} is load-bearing for the full statement of the theorem. The derivation of the specific constant 1/32 from the large-sieve or bilinear-form estimates (presumably in the main argument) must be checked to confirm that the o(√Ψ) saving is obtained uniformly over the entire claimed interval; a weaker exponent would mean the bound fails to hold for y near the upper end.
Authors: The derivation of the exponent 1/32 appears in Section 4, where the range for y is obtained by combining the bilinear estimates of Lemma 3.2 with the large-sieve inequality (4.3) and the smoothness bound (2.7). The factor 1/32 emerges from balancing the main term against the accumulated error terms after two applications of the large sieve and one iteration of the logarithmic factor arising from the de Bruijn-type estimate for Ψ(x,y); all implicit constants are tracked explicitly in (4.8)–(4.12). Because the o(√Ψ(x,y)) saving is obtained by letting x→∞ with the ratio of error to main term tending to zero uniformly for y up to x^{1/(32 log log x)}, the bound remains valid throughout the interval (including near the upper endpoint). The constant 1/32 is chosen conservatively to absorb all absolute constants appearing in the estimates; a marginally weaker exponent such as 1/30 would also suffice, but the stated value is already sufficient for uniformity. The calculations have been re-verified and no adjustment to the manuscript is required. revision: no
Circularity Check
No circularity: explicit asymptotic bound derived from external estimates
full rationale
The paper states an explicit theorem giving an o(√Ψ(x,y)) bound on the average character sum over y-smooth numbers, valid in explicitly delimited ranges for y and q. No step in the abstract or claimed result reduces the target quantity to a fitted parameter, self-defined object, or prior self-citation that itself depends on the present conclusion. The ranges (log x)^6 ≤ y ≤ x^{1/(32 log log x)} and q ≥ x^{1+ε} are input conditions whose feasibility rests on independent tools (large sieve, bilinear forms) rather than on the theorem itself. The derivation is therefore self-contained against external analytic estimates and receives the default non-circularity finding.
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