Simultaneous approximations to p-adic numbers and algebraic dependence via multidimensional continued fractions
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The pith
p-adic Jacobi-Perron continued fractions in dimension two bound simultaneous approximations to pairs of p-adic numbers and preserve algebraic relations among convergents under stated conditions.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
p-adic Jacobi-Perron continued fractions in dimension two provide simultaneous approximations to two p-adic numbers whose quality can be bounded, and when the inputs are algebraically dependent the convergents satisfy the same algebraic relation for infinitely many steps under stated conditions; the algorithm terminates for certain Q-linearly dependent inputs.
What carries the argument
The two-dimensional p-adic Jacobi-Perron algorithm, which iteratively produces partial quotients and matrix convergents inside Q_p to generate simultaneous approximations.
If this is right
- The quality of the simultaneous approximations is bounded in terms of the size of the partial quotients produced by the algorithm.
- Algebraically dependent inputs yield convergents that obey the identical algebraic equation for infinitely many indices.
- The algorithm reaches a finite stage for certain inputs that are linearly dependent over Q.
- These properties hold uniformly for any odd prime p.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The termination criterion may supply a practical test for linear dependence over Q in p-adic computations.
- The preservation of algebraic relations could be checked directly on sample algebraic p-adics to locate explicit infinite families.
- Extending the same matrix recurrence to higher dimensions might produce simultaneous approximations to more than two p-adic numbers while retaining the algebraic-inheritance property.
Load-bearing premise
The p-adic multidimensional continued fraction algorithm is assumed to be well-defined and to produce convergents for the chosen inputs.
What would settle it
An explicit pair of algebraically dependent p-adic numbers for which only finitely many convergents satisfy the algebraic relation, even when the paper's stated conditions on partial quotients are met.
read the original abstract
Unlike the real case, there are not many studies and general techniques for providing simultaneous approximations in the field of $p$--adic numbers $\mathbb Q_p$. Here, we study the use of multidimensional continued fractions (MCFs) in this context. MCFs were introduced in $\mathbb R$ by Jacobi and Perron as a generalization of continued fractions and they have been recently defined also in $\mathbb Q_p$. We focus on the dimension two and study the quality of the simultaneous approximation to two $p$-adic numbers provided by $p$-adic MCFs, where $p$ is an odd prime. Moreover, given algebraically dependent $p$--adic numbers, we see when infinitely many simultaneous approximations satisfy the same algebraic relation. This also allows to give a condition that ensures the finiteness of the $p$--adic Jacobi--Perron algorithm when it processes some kinds of $\mathbb Q$--linearly dependent inputs.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript studies the two-dimensional p-adic Jacobi-Perron continued fraction algorithm for an odd prime p. It derives bounds on the quality of simultaneous approximations to two p-adic numbers and shows that, under stated conditions, algebraically dependent inputs yield convergents satisfying the same algebraic relation for infinitely many steps. It also supplies a termination criterion for the algorithm on certain Q-linearly dependent inputs.
Significance. If the central claims hold, the work supplies explicit approximation bounds and dependence-preservation results in a setting where multidimensional continued-fraction techniques remain scarce. The termination condition for linearly dependent inputs is a concrete algorithmic byproduct. The manuscript supplies the necessary recurrence relations and case analysis, which constitute a solid foundation for further p-adic Diophantine studies.
minor comments (2)
- [Theorem 4.2] The statement of the approximation-quality bound (presumably in the main theorem) would benefit from an explicit comparison with the real Jacobi-Perron case to highlight the p-adic differences.
- [Section 2] Notation for the partial quotients and the p-adic valuation in the recurrence relations could be made uniform across sections to avoid minor ambiguity for readers.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our manuscript on the two-dimensional p-adic Jacobi-Perron algorithm, including the derived approximation bounds and algebraic dependence preservation results. The recommendation for minor revision is noted. No specific major comments appear in the report.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; derivation self-contained
full rationale
The paper defines the p-adic Jacobi-Perron algorithm in dimension two, derives explicit bounds on simultaneous approximation quality from the recurrence relations for convergents, and analyzes preservation of algebraic relations under dependence via direct case analysis on the remainders in Q_p. No fitted parameters are renamed as predictions, no self-citation chain is invoked to force uniqueness or the central bounds, and the termination condition for Q-linearly dependent inputs follows from the algorithm's own recurrence without reduction to prior fitted results. The analysis assumes only the standard p-adic topology and nonzero remainders for irrational inputs, which is independent of the target claims.
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the p-adic Jacobi–Perron algorithm ... α_{k+1}=1/(β_k-b_k), β_{k+1}=(α_k-a_k)/(β_k-b_k)
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- The paper appears to rely on the theorem as machinery.
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