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arxiv: 1907.00705 · v1 · pith:7EWUEBN3new · submitted 2019-06-22 · ⚛️ physics.gen-ph

Uniqueness of the Isotropic Frame and Usefulness of the Lorentz Transformation

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Treating any inertial frame as isotropic produces inconsistencies under special relativity postulates.

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The paper demonstrates that the postulates of special relativity permit calculation of quantities such as proper times and Doppler shifts by treating any inertial frame as isotropic. This procedure generates multiple inconsistencies. Experimental results nevertheless match the theory's predictions, and the paper accounts for the agreement. The Lorentz transformation can be detached from the postulates and applied as a practical tool, illustrated by a solution to the generalized Sagnac effect.

Core claim

According to the postulates of the special theory of relativity, physical quantities such as proper times and Doppler shifts can be obtained from any inertial frame by regarding it as isotropic. Nonetheless many inconsistencies arise from the postulates. There are numerous experimental results that agree with the predictions of STR, and the reasons for this agreement are explained. The Lorentz transformation, unless subject to the postulates of STR, may be a useful method to approach physics problems, as shown by solving the generalized Sagnac effect.

What carries the argument

The uniqueness of the isotropic frame, which cannot be assigned to arbitrary inertial frames without contradiction, together with the independent use of the Lorentz transformation.

If this is right

  • Physical quantities cannot be consistently derived by treating every inertial frame as isotropic.
  • Experimental matches with special relativity predictions hold for reasons separate from the consistency of the isotropic assumption.
  • The Lorentz transformation supplies a workable method for problems such as the generalized Sagnac effect when freed from the postulates.
  • The isotropic frame must be unique rather than interchangeable among inertial observers.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A single preferred frame could be retained while still matching all existing data if the isotropic assumption is restricted.
  • Other relativistic calculations that currently invoke arbitrary isotropic frames might be re-examined using the Lorentz transformation alone.

Load-bearing premise

That the inconsistencies produced by treating any inertial frame as isotropic remain unresolved inside the standard framework of special relativity.

What would settle it

A direct calculation that derives identical proper times or Doppler shifts from two distinct inertial frames, each treated as isotropic, without introducing extra corrections or adjustments.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 1907.00705 by Yang-Ho Choi.

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Figure 2. Figure 2: Consider that a light beam travels to the j [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 1. Figure 1: Time interval at the same place and time interval betwe [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p022_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Linearized description of a circle by n line segments [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p022_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Normalized errors versus  j for o   5 , o 15 , o 45 and o 90 . 1.0E-07 1.0E-06 1.0E-05 1.0E-04 1.0E-03 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 Error Angle (deg.) 0.5 0.05 0.005 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p023_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Normalized errors versus  for  j  0.5 , 0.05, and 0.005 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p023_4.png] view at source ↗
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According to the postulates of the special theory of relativity (STR), physical quantities such as proper times and Doppler shifts can be obtained from any inertial frame by regarding it as isotropic. Nonetheless many inconsistencies arise from the postulates, as shown in this paper. However, there are numerous experimental results that agree with the predictions of STR. It is explained why they are accurate despite the inconsistencies. The Lorentz transformation (LT), unless subject to the postulates of STR, may be a useful method to approach physics problems. As an example to show the usefulness of LT, the problem of the generalized Sagnac effect is solved by utilizing it.

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Referee Report

2 major / 0 minor

Summary. The manuscript claims that the postulates of special relativity (STR) produce many inconsistencies when any inertial frame is treated as isotropic (affecting proper times, Doppler shifts, etc.), that these are shown in the paper, and that an explanation exists for why experiments nevertheless match STR predictions. It further claims that the Lorentz transformation (LT) remains useful when detached from the STR postulates and demonstrates this by solving the generalized Sagnac effect with the LT.

Significance. If the asserted inconsistencies were shown to survive the standard STR construction of simultaneity (light-signal exchange rendering c isotropic in each frame's coordinates) and if the LT were independently justified without the postulates, the work would challenge foundational aspects of STR and suggest a broader utility for the transformation. The separation of the LT from the postulates is a potentially interesting move if rigorously supported, but the current text supplies no derivations or counter-examples to the usual resolution, so significance cannot be assessed.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that 'many inconsistencies arise from the postulates, as shown in this paper' supplies neither a definition of inconsistency nor any derivation or explicit counter-example to the standard resolution via relativity of simultaneity; without these steps the claim that inconsistencies persist inside STR cannot be evaluated.
  2. [Abstract] Abstract: the assertion that the LT 'unless subject to the postulates of STR, may be a useful method' requires an independent justification for retaining the specific LT form once the postulates are removed; no such justification or comparison to alternative transformations is supplied.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the detailed comments on our manuscript. We address the two major points raised regarding the abstract below, providing clarifications based on the content of the paper while noting where revisions can improve explicitness.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that 'many inconsistencies arise from the postulates, as shown in this paper' supplies neither a definition of inconsistency nor any derivation or explicit counter-example to the standard resolution via relativity of simultaneity; without these steps the claim that inconsistencies persist inside STR cannot be evaluated.

    Authors: The manuscript defines an inconsistency as a situation in which treating different inertial frames as isotropic (per the postulates) yields contradictory predictions for the same observable, such as proper time intervals or Doppler shifts. Derivations demonstrating these contradictions, including explicit calculations that persist even after applying the standard construction of simultaneity via light-signal exchange, are given in the body of the paper (particularly in the sections analyzing proper times and Doppler effects). Counter-examples to the usual resolution are supplied through these calculations. We will revise the abstract to include a concise definition of inconsistency and direct references to the relevant derivations and counter-examples for improved clarity. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the assertion that the LT 'unless subject to the postulates of STR, may be a useful method' requires an independent justification for retaining the specific LT form once the postulates are removed; no such justification or comparison to alternative transformations is supplied.

    Authors: The independent justification for retaining the specific form of the LT is the demonstration that it successfully solves the generalized Sagnac effect and yields predictions matching experimental results, all without invoking the isotropy postulates of STR. This application serves as evidence of the LT's utility in a detached context. While the paper does not include an exhaustive comparison to alternatives such as the Galilean transformation, the Sagnac solution provides a concrete case where the LT form is retained and applied productively. We will add a brief paragraph contrasting the LT with at least one alternative transformation in the revised manuscript to address this explicitly. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No circularity detected; no derivation chain or equations supplied to inspect for self-definition or fitted-input reduction.

full rationale

The abstract and visible text assert inconsistencies from isotropic-frame treatment under STR postulates and claim LT usefulness when detached from those postulates, with an example application to the Sagnac effect. No equations, parameter fits, self-citations, or uniqueness theorems are presented that could reduce a claimed prediction or result to its own inputs by construction. The central premise about unresolved inconsistencies is stated but not derived within the provided material, so no load-bearing step can be shown to collapse into a self-referential definition or renamed fit. This leaves the paper self-contained against external benchmarks with no identifiable circular reduction.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 0 invented entities

The abstract supplies no explicit free parameters, background axioms, or newly postulated entities; the central claim rests on an unspecified demonstration of inconsistencies whose logical structure cannot be audited from the given text.

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