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Almost sure asymptotic properties of central order statistics from stationary processes

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Pith's one-line read Central order statistics from strictly stationary processes satisfy a new strong ergodic theorem almost surely.

desk verdict Extends conditional quantile properties to get a strong law for central order statistics under strict stationarity, but the abstract leaves the ergodicity question open enough that the limit could be random rather than constant. read the letter →

arxiv 1907.10369 v1 pith:V7HSXO6O submitted 2019-07-24 math.PR

Aneta Augustynowicz This is my paper
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keywords centralorderstatisticsstrictlystationaryprocessesstrongergodictheoremconditionalquantilesalmostsureasymptoticbehaviorsigma-fields
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The reading

The paper first formulates and proves new properties of conditional quantiles given particular sigma-fields. These properties are then applied to derive almost sure asymptotic behavior for central order statistics that arise from strictly stationary processes. The result is a new version of the strong ergodic theorem specialized to these statistics. A sympathetic reader would care because the extension allows ergodic-type conclusions to reach order statistics without requiring independence, which matters for long-run analysis of sequences that exhibit dependence.

What carries the argument

Properties of conditional quantiles given particular sigma-fields that transfer to almost sure limits of central order statistics under strict stationarity.

What would settle it

A counterexample consisting of a strictly stationary process in which the central order statistics fail to converge almost surely according to the stated limit would falsify the theorem.

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Core claim

The paper establishes new properties of conditional quantiles given one of the particular sigma-fields and uses them to prove a new version of the strong ergodic theorem for central order statistics arising from strictly stationary processes.

Load-bearing premise

The processes are strictly stationary, allowing conditional quantile properties to transfer to the order statistics limit.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Central order statistics converge almost surely to the relevant conditional quantiles.
  • The strong ergodic theorem extends directly to these derived statistics from any strictly stationary process.
  • Asymptotic almost sure properties hold without additional mixing or independence assumptions beyond stationarity.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The conditional quantile approach could be tested on simulated stationary sequences to verify convergence rates numerically.
  • Results may suggest ways to handle order statistics in settings with weak dependence that approximate stationarity.
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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper formulates and proves new properties of conditional quantiles with respect to particular sigma-fields, then applies these to establish almost sure asymptotic properties of central order statistics arising from strictly stationary processes, yielding a new version of a strong ergodic theorem for such statistics.

Significance. If the central claim holds with the necessary clarification on the nature of the limit, the work would extend strong ergodic theorems to central order statistics under stationarity via conditional quantile techniques, offering a potentially useful tool for analyzing dependent sequences in probability theory. The use of conditional quantile properties as an intermediate step is a distinctive methodological choice that could strengthen the result if the transfer is rigorous.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract (paragraph 2): The claim of a 'new version of a strong ergodic theorem' for central order statistics from strictly stationary processes does not indicate whether the almost sure limit is a deterministic constant or a random variable measurable with respect to the invariant sigma-field. This is load-bearing for the central claim, because Birkhoff's ergodic theorem applied to stationary (non-ergodic) processes produces a random limit; without an explicit ergodicity assumption or conditioning statement, the transfer from conditional quantile properties to the order-statistic limit cannot be verified as yielding the asserted strong ergodic result.
  2. [Main theorem (likely §3 or §4)] The manuscript's weakest assumption (strict stationarity allowing transfer of conditional quantile properties) appears insufficient by itself to guarantee a deterministic a.s. limit; the main theorem statement (wherever the ergodic result is formulated) must explicitly address the role of the invariant sigma-field to avoid reducing to a conditional version of the standard Birkhoff theorem.
minor comments (2)
  1. Notation for the particular sigma-fields used in the conditional quantile properties should be introduced earlier and used consistently to improve readability of the proof sequence.
  2. [Abstract] The abstract could benefit from a brief statement of the precise form of the almost sure limit (e.g., constant vs. invariant-measurable) to orient readers.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for the careful reading and for identifying the need for greater precision in describing the almost sure limit. The comments correctly note that the distinction between a deterministic limit and one measurable with respect to the invariant sigma-field is essential for a strong ergodic theorem under mere stationarity. We address both points below and will revise the manuscript to incorporate the requested clarifications.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract (paragraph 2): The claim of a 'new version of a strong ergodic theorem' for central order statistics from strictly stationary processes does not indicate whether the almost sure limit is a deterministic constant or a random variable measurable with respect to the invariant sigma-field. This is load-bearing for the central claim, because Birkhoff's ergodic theorem applied to stationary (non-ergodic) processes produces a random limit; without an explicit ergodicity assumption or conditioning statement, the transfer from conditional quantile properties to the order-statistic limit cannot be verified as yielding the asserted strong ergodic result.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract must be revised to state explicitly that the almost sure limit is a random variable measurable with respect to the invariant sigma-field (i.e., the conditional expectation given the invariant sigma-field). This is the natural extension of Birkhoff's theorem to the central order statistics under strict stationarity without an ergodicity assumption. The revision will make the claim verifiable against the conditional-quantile intermediate results. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Main theorem (likely §3 or §4)] The manuscript's weakest assumption (strict stationarity allowing transfer of conditional quantile properties) appears insufficient by itself to guarantee a deterministic a.s. limit; the main theorem statement (wherever the ergodic result is formulated) must explicitly address the role of the invariant sigma-field to avoid reducing to a conditional version of the standard Birkhoff theorem.

    Authors: We accept the observation. The main theorem will be restated to indicate that the almost sure limit equals a random variable that is invariant-sigma-field measurable, obtained via the conditional-quantile properties. This formulation distinguishes the result from a purely conditional Birkhoff theorem while remaining valid under the paper's stationarity assumption alone. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity; direct proof sequence from conditional quantiles to ergodic theorem

full rationale

The paper states it formulates and proves new properties of conditional quantiles w.r.t. particular sigma-fields, then applies them to obtain a new version of a strong ergodic theorem for central order statistics of strictly stationary processes. No equations, definitions, or claims in the abstract reduce a result to its own inputs by construction, no fitted parameters are relabeled as predictions, and no load-bearing self-citations or uniqueness theorems imported from prior author work are referenced. The derivation is presented as a self-contained proof chain starting from the stated assumptions on stationarity and sigma-fields. This matches the default expectation of no significant circularity.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 2 assumptions · 0 invented entities

Paper relies on standard measure-theoretic probability (sigma-fields, stationarity) and ergodic theory background; no free parameters or invented entities are evident from the abstract.

assumptions (2)
  • domain assumption Strict stationarity of the process
    Invoked to ensure the asymptotic behavior of order statistics holds almost surely.
  • standard math Existence and measurability of conditional quantiles given particular sigma-fields
    Used as the foundation for the new properties proved in the first part.

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read the original abstract

In this paper, we formulate and prove new properties of conditional quantiles given one of the particular sigma-fields. Next, we use them to investigate almost sure asymptotic behavior of central order statistics which arise from strictly stationary processes. Specifically we provide a new version of a strong ergodic theorem for central order statistics.

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