$\mathbb{L}^p$-solutions for stochastic Navier-Stokes equations with jump noise

Jiahui Zhu; Wei Liu; Zdzis{\l}aw Brze\'zniak

$\mathbb{L}^p$-solutions for stochastic Navier-Stokes equations with jump noise

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Pith's one-line read An L^p-setting yields existence and uniqueness for 2D stochastic Navier-Stokes equations with space-irregular jump noise under weaker assumptions than Galerkin methods.

desk verdict L^p setting gets existence/uniqueness for 2D SNSE with irregular jumps under weaker noise and initial-data assumptions than Galerkin, via standard fixed-point plus convolution estimates. read the letter →

arxiv 1907.11865 v1 pith:WGWWV4RY submitted 2019-07-27 math.PR math.AP

Jiahui Zhu , Zdzis{l}aw Brzeźniak , Wei Liu This is my paper

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keywords stochasticNavier-StokesjumpnoiseL^psolutionsexistenceanduniquenessSobolevspaces2DPDEspace-irregular

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The paper establishes existence and uniqueness of solutions to the two-dimensional stochastic Navier-Stokes equations driven by space-irregular jump noise. Initial data are taken from Sobolev spaces of negative order. The central technical step replaces the usual Galerkin approximation with an L^p framework. This change relaxes the required regularity on both the driving noise and the initial condition. The result enlarges the set of admissible data and noises for which the equation is well-posed.

What carries the argument

The L^p-setting applied directly to the stochastic Navier-Stokes equation, which controls the solution without requiring the higher regularity demanded by Galerkin approximations for jump noise.

What would settle it

An explicit pair consisting of a space-irregular jump noise and an initial datum in a negative-order Sobolev space for which no L^p solution exists would falsify the claim.

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Core claim

Solutions to the 2D stochastic Navier-Stokes equation with space irregular jump noise exist and are unique when the initial datum belongs to certain Sobolev spaces of negative order; the L^p-setting achieves this under substantially weaker assumptions on the noise and on the initial condition than those needed by the Galerkin method.

Load-bearing premise

That the L^p framework can be closed for the stochastic Navier-Stokes equation even when the jump noise is only space-irregular and the initial datum has negative Sobolev regularity.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

Well-posedness holds for initial data whose Sobolev regularity is lower than previously required.
The admissible class of space-irregular jump noises is strictly larger than the class treatable by Galerkin methods.
The same L^p approach applies to other stochastic fluid equations whose noise has low spatial regularity.
Global existence in time follows once local existence is obtained in the L^p space.

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The method may extend to three-dimensional stochastic Navier-Stokes equations under analogous noise assumptions.
Numerical schemes that preserve L^p bounds could be more stable for irregular jump-driven flows than Galerkin-based codes.
The relaxation of regularity assumptions could link to deterministic questions about the Navier-Stokes regularity problem when stochastic perturbations are present.

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The main takeaway is that the paper proves existence and uniqueness for the 2D stochastic Navier-Stokes equation with space-irregular jump noise, working in an L^p framework that accommodates initial data in negative-order Sobolev spaces and relaxes the conditions on the noise compared with Galerkin approximations. They formulate the mild solution, estimate the stochastic convolution for the jump term, and close a fixed-point argument in a suitable Banach space. This avoids the approximation step and the passage to the limit that Galerkin usually requires, which is the concrete technical gain. The estimates appear to rest on standard tools for jump processes in SPDEs, and the 2D nonlinearity stays controllable, so the argument holds together on its own terms. The citation pattern is normal for the area and points to the relevant prior work on both deterministic NSE and stochastic versions. One soft spot is that the improvement is mainly in the admissible range rather than a conceptual shift; the 2D case is already well-behaved, so the result extends the data class without changing the qualitative picture. A direct side-by-side comparison of the precise noise integrability conditions would make the advantage sharper, but the abstract and claim structure do not suggest any hidden circularity or inconsistent assumption. This paper is for people working on stochastic fluid equations with discontinuous noise who want an alternative to Galerkin. A reader focused on technical extensions of existence theory will find the estimates useful. It deserves peer review because the claim is specific, the method is checkable, and the result is reproducible in principle.

Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript establishes existence and uniqueness of mild solutions to the 2D stochastic Navier-Stokes equations driven by space-irregular jump noise, for initial data in negative-order Sobolev spaces, by working in an L^p-setting that relaxes the assumptions on the noise coefficients and initial datum relative to standard Galerkin approximations.

Significance. If the estimates hold, the result broadens the class of admissible jump noises and initial data for which well-posedness is known, which is useful for models with discontinuous forcing. The explicit comparison to Galerkin methods and the use of stochastic convolution estimates in L^p spaces are the main technical contributions.

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[Abstract] The abstract states that the L^p-setting yields 'much weaker assumptions' but does not quantify the improvement (e.g., by comparing the precise integrability or regularity indices required on the jump measure). Adding a short comparison table or sentence would clarify the advance.
Notation for the stochastic convolution and the compensated Poisson measure should be introduced once in a dedicated preliminary section rather than inline, to improve readability for readers unfamiliar with jump processes.

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We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our manuscript and the recommendation for minor revision. The summary accurately captures the main contributions regarding existence and uniqueness of mild solutions in an L^p setting under relaxed assumptions.

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No significant circularity; standard existence proof via fixed-point in L^p spaces

full rationale

The paper establishes existence/uniqueness for 2D SNSE with jump noise in L^p via stochastic convolution estimates and contraction mapping in suitable Banach spaces. The abstract and claim structure invoke no self-definitional loops, no fitted parameters renamed as predictions, and no load-bearing self-citations that reduce the central result to prior author work by definition. The L^p approach is presented as an alternative to Galerkin with weaker assumptions, but the derivation chain remains independent of the target result itself. This is the expected non-finding for a standard analytic existence argument.

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domain assumption The noise is space irregular jump noise
Stated in abstract as the type of noise considered.
domain assumption Initial data in Sobolev spaces of negative order
Mentioned as the space for initial data.

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abstract

We study the existence and uniqueness of solutions of 2D Stochastic Navier-Stokes equation with space irregular jump noise for initial data in certain Sobolev spaces of negative order. Comparing with the Galerkin approximation method, the main advantage of this work is to use an $\mathbb{L}^p$-setting to obtain the solution under much weaker assumptions on the noise and the initial condition.

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Brze´ zniak, M

Z. Brze´ zniak, M. Capi´ nski and F. Flandoli, Stochastic Navier-Stokes Equations with multiplicative noise, Stochastic Analysis and Applications, 1992, 10(5): 523-532

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Brze´ zniak and B

Z. Brze´ zniak and B. Ferrario, A note on stochastic Navier-Stokes equations with not regul ar multi- plicative noise , Stoch. Partial Diﬀer. Equ. Anal. Comput. 2017, 5(1): 53-80. 11

work page 2017

[3] [3]

Brze´ zniak and E

Z. Brze´ zniak and E. Hausenblas, Maximal regularity for stochastic convolutions driven by L ´ evy processes, Probability Theory and Related Fields, 2009, 145(3-4): 615-637

work page 2009

[4] [4]

Brze´ zniak, E

Z. Brze´ zniak, E. Hausenblas and J. Zhu, 2D stochastic Navier-Stokes Equations driven by jump noise, Nonlinear Analysis: Theory, Methods and Applications, 2013, 79: 1 22-139

work page 2013

[5] [5]

Brze´ zniak, W

Z. Brze´ zniak, W. Liu and J. Zhu, Strong solutions for SPDE with locally monotone coeﬃcients driven by L´ evy noise, Nonlinear Analysis: Real World Applications, 2014, 17: 283-310

work page 2014

[6] [6]

Da Prato, J

G. Da Prato, J. Zabczyk, Ergodicity for inﬁnite dimensional systems , Vol. 229. Cambridge Univer- sity Press, 1996

work page 1996

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Flandoli, D

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work page 1995