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Mercury Hydroxide as a Promising Triatomic Molecule to Probe P,T-odd Interactions

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Pith's one-line read The paper claims that mercury hydroxide (HgOH) offers an effective electric field of about 103 GV/cm for an electron electric dipole moment measurement, about 4.3 times that of YbOH and 1.3 times that of ThO.

desk verdict First credible E_eff calculation for HgOH gives a 4x advantage over YbOH at linear geometry, but the (010) bent-state extrapolation is uncomputed and could erase that edge. read the letter →

arxiv 1908.07360 v1 pith:ASVBXP3Y submitted 2019-08-20 physics.atom-ph

R. Mitra , V. S. Prasannaa , B. K. Sahoo , X. Tong , M. Abe , B. P. Das This is my paper · ORCID
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The reading

This paper argues that the triatomic molecule mercury hydroxide (HgOH) is a stronger candidate than the recently proposed YbOH for measuring the electron electric dipole moment (eEDM). Its central quantitative claim is an effective electric field $E_{\text{eff}}\approx 103$ GV/cm in the linear ground state, about 4.3 times larger than YbOH's 23.8 GV/cm and 1.3 times larger than ThO's 79.9 GV/cm. Because the eEDM-induced energy shift is $\Delta E = -d_e E_{\text{eff}}$, a larger effective field translates directly into better statistical sensitivity for a fixed number of molecules. The paper also reports a permanent dipole moment of 1.44 D, large enough to polarize the molecule with a modest laboratory field, and sketches a laser-cooling scheme based on the analogy between OH and a halogen. If the calculation holds, HgOH could combine the systematic advantages of a bent triatomic molecule with an intrinsic electric field stronger than that of current leading diatomic systems.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the effective electric field $E_{\text{eff}}$, defined through the first-order energy shift $\Delta E = -d_e E_{\text{eff}}$ produced by the electron-EDM Hamiltonian $H_{\text{EDM}} = 2ic d_e \sum_i \beta\gamma_5 p_i^2$. The paper evaluates $E_{\text{eff}}$ as the expectation value of this operator with the relativistic coupled-cluster wave function $|\Psi\rangle = e^T|\Phi_0\rangle$, where $T$ includes single and double excitations, and the potential energy curve is refined by adding perturbative triple excitations in the RCCSD(T) approximation. Convergence of $E_{\text{eff}}$ under basis-set size and virtual-orbital energy cutoffs is used to support the recommended value, and the permanent dipole moment is computed from the same wave function to argue for easy laboratory polarization.

What would settle it

A relativistic calculation of $E_{\text{eff}}$ from the (010) vibrational wave function, sampling the bending angles it actually covers, would settle the transferability question; if that value falls toward YbOH's 23.8 GV/cm, the claimed fourfold advantage disappears. An independent measurement of the HgOH permanent dipole moment that disagrees with 1.44 D by more than the quoted 0.10 D uncertainty would also weaken the polarization and sensitivity argument, though it would not directly test $E_{\text{eff}}$.

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Core claim

Using relativistic coupled-cluster theory with single and double excitations, the authors compute the effective electric field of HgOH at the equilibrium Hg–O bond length of 1.97 Å and find $E_{\text{eff}} = 102.85$ GV/cm in the largest basis set, with a recommended value of $103(5)$ GV/cm after comparing double-, triple-, and quadruple-zeta basis sets. This is 4.3 times the corresponding YbOH value (23.80 GV/cm) and 1.3 times the ThO value (79.9 GV/cm). The permanent electric dipole moment is calculated as 1.44 D, slightly above YbOH's 1.1 D, which the authors say should allow full polarization at low applied field. They propose performing the experiment in the low-lying (010) bending state of the electronic ground state, where internal co-magnetometer states help reject systematic errors, and estimate a statistical sensitivity of $2.015\times 10^{-32}$ e-cm with conservative parameters ($N=10^5$ molecules, $T=10^7$ s, $\tau=1$ s, $\eta=1$).

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing assumption is that the effective electric field computed at the linear geometry (about 103 GV/cm) remains essentially unchanged in the (010) bending state where the experiment is proposed to run, an expectation the authors state explicitly while noting that the bending-angle range is not yet known.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • If the $103(5)$ GV/cm value holds, HgOH gives a several-fold statistical sensitivity gain over YbOH for the same molecular flux, integration time, and coherence time.
  • The 1.44 D permanent dipole moment means HgOH should polarize fully in a modest laboratory electric field, which suppresses systematic errors from incomplete polarization.
  • The proposed experiment in the (010) bending state can combine the internal co-magnetometer advantage of triatomic molecules with the larger effective field of a mercury-centered system.
  • If the HgF-like laser-cooling scheme works, HgOH could be produced in large trapped samples, making the sensitivity estimate based on $10^5$ molecules realistic.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A direct test of the paper's weakest assumption would be to compute $E_{\text{eff}}$ from the (010) vibrational wave function, sampling the bending angles it actually spans rather than the linear geometry.
  • Because the large effective field is tied to the mercury center, other mercury-containing triatomics may form a family with similarly enhanced fields, with the ligand chosen to tune vibrational structure and laser-cooling transitions.
  • If the pseudo-halogen analogy for OH is correct, the ultraviolet X→C transition wavelengths of HgOH should lie close to those of HgF, a prediction that spectroscopy can test directly.
  • A measurement of the HgOH permanent dipole moment that agrees with 1.44 D would validate the polarization argument, while a clear disagreement would weaken the case for a low-field experiment.
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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript identifies HgOH as a triatomic molecule for electron electric dipole moment (eEDM) searches. Using relativistic Dirac-Hartree-Fock and relativistic coupled-cluster (RCCSD, with RCCSD(T) for the potential energy curve) and Dyall DZ/TZ/QZ basis sets, it computes the potential energy curve, the effective electric field E_eff, and the permanent dipole moment at a fixed linear geometry with Hg-O bond length 1.97 Å and O-H length taken from YbOH. The recommended E_eff is 103(5) GV/cm, about 4.3 times that of YbOH and 1.3 times that of ThO. The paper proposes performing the measurement in the (010) bending level, estimates the statistical sensitivity using Eq. (5) with the linear-geometry E_eff, and argues that laser cooling is feasible by analogy with HgF, treating OH as a pseudo-halogen. The central quantitative claim is the linear-geometry E_eff; the transfer of this value to the proposed (010) bent state is assumed rather than computed.

Significance. If the linear-geometry E_eff is representative of the (010) bending state, the result is significant: a triatomic molecule with a roughly fourfold E_eff advantage over YbOH and a value comparable to ThO would strengthen the case for next-generation molecular eEDM searches. The core calculation is a first-principles relativistic many-body calculation with no fitted parameters. The systematic basis-set checks (DZ/TZ/QZ and DZ*) and the small DHF-versus-RCCSD spread for E_eff at linear geometry are genuine strengths and justify the quoted 103(5) GV/cm for that geometry. The main limitation is not the electronic-structure method but the geometry used for the proposed experiment: the E_eff value is computed only at linear geometry, while the proposed measurement is in the (010) bending state, and no calculation addresses the difference.

major comments (2)
  1. [§3 (statistical sensitivity estimate, after Eq. (5))] The proposed experiment is to be performed in the (010) bending level, but E_eff is computed only at linear geometry. The sentence "Since this range is not known yet for this molecule, the calculations are performed using linear geometry. However, we strongly expect that there may not be significant deviation in the E_eff value for the (010) level" is an assumption, not a demonstrated result. E_eff is a one-electron property concentrated near the Hg center, and bending changes the Hg 6p/6d hybridization and the orientation of the molecular frame; the paper provides no bending potential, no bending-angle dependence of E_eff, and no (010) vibrational average. Since Eq. (5) uses E_eff = 102.85 GV/cm from the linear geometry, the claimed 4.3-fold advantage over YbOH in the actual experimental state is not yet established. The authors should either compute E_eff over the bending coordinate and average it over the (010) vibrational wave function, or clearly present the sensitivity estimate as conditional on an unverified geometry transferability assumption.
  2. [§2 and Fig. 1 (potential energy surface)] The only potential energy information is a one-dimensional scan along the Hg-O bond at linear geometry. No bending potential, bending frequency, or barrier to linearity is computed, so the "range of available bending angles in the (010) state" invoked in the sensitivity discussion is entirely unknown. This is directly load-bearing for the proposed experiment because the internal co-magnetometer scheme and the use of opposite-parity doublets in a bent triatomic rely on the bending degree of freedom. A minimum requirement is a two-dimensional scan in the bending angle (and ideally the asymmetric stretch) to determine the shape of the (010) state and to enable a meaningful estimate of E_eff in that state.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Table 1] The recommended permanent dipole moment μ = 1.44(10) D does not appear consistent with the DZ* value of 1.00 D reported in the same table; the spread across basis sets is 1.00 to 1.44 D, which is much larger than the stated uncertainty. The authors should either enlarge the uncertainty or explain why the DZ/DZ* values are excluded from the recommendation.
  2. [§3 (sensitivity estimate)] The assumption of polarization factor η = 1 is optimistic, not conservative, for a molecule in the (010) state; the statistical sensitivity in Eq. (5) scales as 1/η, so a smaller η would reduce the claimed sensitivity. The text should state this clearly or use a realistic η estimate.
  3. [§4 (laser cooling discussion)] The laser-cooling scheme is based on the analogy between OH as a pseudo-halogen and HgF, but no electronic structure calculations of the X, C, and B states of HgOH are presented; the authors themselves state that comprehensive electronic structure calculations are beyond the scope of the work. The claims about a closed optical cycle should be softened to a conjecture, since Fig. 2 is explicitly schematic.
  4. [References and text] There are several typographical and reference errors: "Kozyvrev" should be "Kozyryev" in the text and Ref. [26]; Refs. [40] and [41] appear to duplicate the same work, with Ref. [41] giving an incomplete page number; and "On other words" should be "In other words".
  5. [§2 (geometry setup)] The O-H bond length is taken from YbOH with the statement that properties are insensitive to that length, but the cited sensitivity analysis was performed for YbOH, not HgOH. A brief justification or a test for HgOH would make the geometry choice more robust.

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No significant circularity: HgOH E_eff is a parameter-free relativistic many-body prediction; the linear-to-(010) extrapolation is an untested assumption, not a circular reduction.

full rationale

The central claim, E_eff(HgOH) ≈ 103(5) GV/cm, is computed directly by evaluating the expectation value of the electron-EDM Hamiltonian with RCCSD wave functions (Eqs. (2)–(4)). No experimental E_eff value and no fitted parameter enters this quantity; basis-set convergence is checked across DZ/TZ/QZ and against a no-energy-cutoff DZ* calculation, so the result is not a renamed fit or a self-defined quantity. The comparison values for YbOH and ThO are taken from prior published calculations (Refs. [29] and [30]); Ref. [29] is the authors' own YbOH study and is also used to set the O-H bond length at 0.922 Å, but this is a fixed geometry input justified by a stated insensitivity argument, not a reduction of the HgOH E_eff result to an input. The paper honestly flags its main limitation: the E_eff value is computed at linear geometry while the proposed experiment runs in the (010) bending level, with the text saying 'we strongly expect that there may not be significant deviation in the E_eff value for the (010) level.' This is an untested extrapolation—potentially important for the experimental sensitivity estimate—but extrapolation from a computed geometry is not circular reasoning. No equation or fitted parameter in the paper is equivalent by construction to the claimed prediction, so no circular step is present. The few self-citations are not load-bearing for the central derivation.

Assumptions & free parameters 2 free parameters · 4 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central E_eff number rests on standard relativistic many-body methods and basis sets, plus two manually chosen computational inputs (O-H bond length and the virtual orbital cutoff). The experimental proposal adds two unverified modeling assumptions: that the bent-state E_eff equals the linear value, and that OH behaves as a pseudo-halogen enabling HgF-like laser cooling. No new physical entities are introduced.

free parameters (2)
  • O-H bond length = 0.922 Angstrom (chosen, not fitted)
    Taken from the YbOH analysis in Ref. [29]; the properties of interest are assumed sensitive to the heavy atom-O bond and insensitive to O-H length, but this is not validated specifically for HgOH.
  • Virtual orbital energy cutoff = 1000 a.u.
    Ad hoc computational truncation in the AO-to-MO transformation; the authors show that results without this cutoff (DZ*) differ only slightly, mitigating its effect.
assumptions (4)
  • domain assumption Dirac-Coulomb Hamiltonian and RCCSD or RCCSD(T) methods provide reliable E_eff for heavy polar molecules.
    Standard in the field, invoked throughout the Methods section; no direct experimental benchmark for HgOH is given.
  • ad hoc to paper OH can be treated as a pseudo-halogen, making HgOH's electronic structure and laser cooling schemes similar to those of HgF.
    Used in the laser cooling discussion; no HgOH excited-state or Franck-Condon calculations are performed, only analogy with HgF and Refs. [40,41].
  • ad hoc to paper The effective field in the (010) bent state is approximately equal to that in the linear geometry.
    Stated in the text as a strong expectation, but no bent-geometry calculation is provided.
  • domain assumption The O-H bond length can be transferred from YbOH.
    The paper sets O-H = 0.922 Angstrom based on the YbOH analysis; treated as an input, with the assertion that E_eff and PDM are insensitive to it.

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In the quest to find a favourable triatomic molecule for detecting electric dipole moment of an electron (eEDM), we identify mercury hydroxide (HgOH) as an extremely attractive candidate from both experimental and theoretical viewpoints. Our calculations show that there is a four-fold enhancement in the effective electric field of HgOH compared to the recently proposed ytterbium hydroxide (YbOH) [Phys. Rev. Lett. 119, 133002 (2017)] for eEDM measurement. Thus, in the (010) bending state associated with the electronic ground state, it could provide better sensitivity than YbOH from a theoretical point of view. We have also investigated the potential energy curve and permanent electric dipole moment of HgOH, which lends support for its experimental feasibility. Moreover, we propose that it is possible to laser cool the HgOH molecule by adopting the same technique as that in the diatomic polar molecule, HgF, as shown in [Phys. Rev. A 99, 032502 (2019)].

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