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Graphs without two vertex-disjoint $S$-cycles

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Pith's one-line read For rooted graphs with no two disjoint S-cycles, four vertices always hit every S-cycle, and three are not enough in general.

desk verdict Tight bound of 4 for S-cycle hitting sets is plausible and the counterexample is solid, but Proposition 6.9 has a load-bearing gap: Claim 6.11 cites Claim 5.4 in a different subdivided graph where the notation and the separation argument do not carry over as written. read the letter →

arxiv 1908.09065 v2 pith:5HWRHLZZ submitted 2019-08-24 math.CO

classification math.CO MSC 05C3805C70
keywords S-cyclesrootedgraphhittingsetvertex-disjointcyclescyclepackingsubdivisiontightboundfeedbackvertex
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The paper determines the exact packing-covering constant for constrained cycles in rooted graphs. Given a graph $G$ and a set $S$, an $S$-cycle is a cycle that meets $S$; $\mu(G,S)$ is the maximum number of pairwise vertex-disjoint $S$-cycles and $\tau(G,S)$ is the minimum size of a vertex set meeting all $S$-cycles. The main theorem states that $\mu(G,S)\le 1$ implies $\tau(G,S)\le 4$. The authors also construct a 21-vertex rooted graph with $\mu(G,S)=1$ but $\tau(G,S)\ge 4$, so the constant four is tight and cannot be reduced to three.

What carries the argument

The proof rests on the notion of an $S$-cycle subgraph, a subgraph whose every cycle is an $S$-cycle, and on $W$-extensions: paths that start and end in $W$, have no internal vertices in $W$, and whose addition to $W$ preserves the property that every cycle is an $S$-cycle. Lemma 4.3 says that if $W$ is an $S$-cycle subgraph and $T\subseteq S\cap V(W)$ hits all $S$-cycles of $W$, then any $S$-cycle of $G-T$ either meets $W$ in exactly one vertex or contains a $W$-extension. Repeated application of this lemma, together with a bound from Lemma 4.5 on the size of small hitting sets in subdivisions, forces the existence of larger and larger $S$-cycle subdivisions. The analysis in Sections 5$-$8 shows that only certain unavoidable configurations can stop this growth, and each yields a four-vertex hitting set.

What would settle it

A single rooted graph with no two vertex-disjoint S-cycles but with $\tau(G,S)\ge 5$ would disprove the upper bound; such a graph could be sought by exhaustive search on small graphs with an exact packing-hitting computation. As a sanity check, the paper's own 21-vertex example should have $\tau(G,S)=4$.

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Core claim

The central discovery is that the $S$-cycle analogue of the classical three-vertex theorem for ordinary cycles fails by exactly one vertex. For every rooted graph $(G,S)$, if $\mu(G,S)\le 1$, then $\tau(G,S)\le 4$. Moreover, there is a rooted graph on 21 vertices with $\mu(G,S)=1$ and $\tau(G,S)\ge 4$, so the constant 4 is best possible. The upper bound is proved by a structural case analysis. Assuming $\tau>4$, the proof grows an $S$-cycle subdivision by repeatedly adding paths that preserve the property that all cycles are $S$-cycles, eventually forcing one of a finite list of special subdivisions. Each such terminal subgraph is then shown to admit an $S$-cycle hitting set of size at most four, contradicting $\tau>4$.

Load-bearing premise

The proof requires that the recursive case analysis in Sections 5 through 8 is exhaustive: every S-cycle subdivision that cannot be extended must be one of the listed special structures, and each such structure must admit a hitting set of size at most four. If a structural case is missed, the contradiction argument for $\tau(G,S)>4$ does not go through.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Every rooted graph with no two vertex-disjoint S-cycles has a set of at most four vertices meeting all S-cycles; this yields a constant-size deletion set in such graphs.
  • The 21-vertex example proves that three vertices are insufficient, so the theorem cannot be improved to a smaller constant.
  • The result confirms that the classical three-vertex theorem for ordinary cycles does not extend unchanged to S-cycles; the correct constant is exactly one larger.
  • For the next open case, rooted graphs with no three vertex-disjoint S-cycles, the proof structure suggests a finite case analysis but does not determine the constant.

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Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Editorial inference: the 21-vertex example may not be vertex-minimal; a computer search could reveal a smaller counterexample.
  • Editorial inference: the subdivision-enlargement scheme might generalize to the case $\mu(G,S)\le 2$, but it is unclear whether the list of terminal configurations remains finite.
  • Editorial inference: the proof's explicit finite terminal shapes suggest that $\tau\le 4$ can be certified in polynomial time by either finding a forbidden structure or exhibiting a four-vertex hitting set.
  • Editorial inference: comparing ordinary cycles and S-cycles, the off-by-one gap may be a sign that other constrained-cycle classes require their own exact small-packing analyses.
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Summary. The paper studies the Erdős–Pósa-type parameter for S-cycles in rooted graphs (G,S), where an S-cycle is a cycle meeting a prescribed vertex set S. It proves Theorem 1.2: if μ(G,S) ≤ 1, then there is an S-cycle hitting set of size at most 4. It also constructs, in Theorem 1.1, a 21-vertex rooted graph with μ(G,S)=1 and τ(G,S) ≥ 4, showing that the bound 4 is tight. The proof of Theorem 1.2 proceeds by contradiction: assuming τ(G,S) > 4, the authors start from an S-cycle subgraph and repeatedly use Lemma 4.3 to force larger S-cycle subdivisions, eventually reducing to the cases K4, W4, and K'_3,3. Sections 5–8 contain a long case analysis showing that each structural branch either produces an S-cycle K'_3,3-subdivision or yields an S-cycle hitting set of size at most 4.

Significance. If correct, the paper resolves the k=2 case for S-cycles by determining the tight bound τ ≤ 4, in contrast to the bound 3 for ordinary cycles. This is a natural and nontrivial result with direct connections to the Subset Feedback Vertex Set problem. The paper’s main strengths are the explicit 21-vertex extremal example with a fully worked verification, the parameter-free derivation of the upper bound, and a self-contained proof that does not rely on circular arguments or unstated numerical inputs. The proof is long and mostly hand-verified rather than machine-checked, but the overall strategy is transparent and the individual lemmas are carefully organized.

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  1. [§6.9, Claim 6.11] The sentence “By Claim 5.4, z separates (∪_{j∈I}P^j) ∪ Q^1_{v1} and the rest of W in G−T” is formally unjustified, because Claim 5.4 is proved inside Proposition 5.2 for a K'''_3-subdivision in which Q^1 runs from v2 to v3 and refers to Q^1_{v2}, whereas in Proposition 6.9 Q^1 runs from v4 to v1 and the relevant side is Q^1_{v1}. The needed separation does follow from the immediately preceding no-path assertion, the earlier observation that there is no (P^i,P^j)-path in G−T, and the fact that z is the boundary of the segment Q^1_{v1}; the authors should replace the incorrect citation with this short self-contained argument.
  2. [§6.5, Claim 6.8] In the definition of the auxiliary graph F, the displayed vertex set appears to contain a duplicated entry and to omit R^1_1; it should be {R^1_1, R^1_2, R^2_1, R^2_2, A1, A2, Q^1_{v1}, Q^1_{v2}}.
  3. [§3, proof of Theorem 1.1] The first paragraph of the proof says “In each case, we can observe that C2 contains neither y2 nor z2” without explicitly enumerating the cases; adding a sentence describing the two symmetric choices for C1 would make the verification easier for the reader.

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No circularity: the proof is a forward structural case analysis from the definitions; cited prior work is background, and the claimed bound is not assumed.

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Running the derivation chain from Definitions 2.1–2.2 through Lemmas 4.1–4.7 and the case analyses in Sections 5–8, I find no step in which a claimed conclusion is identical to an input by construction. The main theorem is proved by contradiction: having assumed μ(G,S) ≤ 1 and τ(G,S) > 4, the proof uses the definition of τ > 4 to obtain an S-cycle in each G − T for small candidate T; this is definitional but not circular, since the same definition is what a hitting-set statement means. The candidate sets T are constructed from the current S-cycle subdivision W (e.g., branching vertices plus chosen S-vertices or gates), and the work in each proposition is to show G − T has no S-cycle, which is a genuinely independent separation/case-analysis argument. The 21-vertex example of Theorem 1.1 is explicitly checked by enumerating possible T, not fitted to Theorem 1.2. Citations to Lovász, Erdős–Pósa variations, and the subset-feedback-vertex-set literature are background/context; the only self-citation (ref. [11]) appears in an introductory list and is not load-bearing. I note two correctness concerns that are not circularity: Lemma 4.6 invokes Lemma 4.3 without restating its T ⊆ S ∩ V(W) hypothesis, and Claim 6.11 applies Claim 5.4 (proved for a K'''_3-subdivision) to a K''''_4-subdivision without a replacement argument. These concern proof completeness, not equivalence of inputs and outputs.

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No fitted parameters, no invented objects, and no domain-specific unproved axioms appear. This is a proof-based combinatorics paper whose central claim rests on an explicit structural case analysis.

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  • standard math Elementary finite graph theory: paths, cycles, subdivisions, connectivity, and feedback edge sets behave as in standard references.
    Used throughout Sections 2 to 8. No deep external theorem is used as a black box; the proof is self-contained apart from standard definitions.

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  title        = {Pith review of: Graphs without two vertex-disjoint $S$-cycles},
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abstract

Lov\'asz (1965) characterized graphs without two vertex-disjoint cycles, which implies that such graphs have at most three vertices hitting all cycles. In this paper, we ask whether such a small hitting set exists for $S$-cycles, when a graph has no two vertex-disjoint $S$-cycles. For a graph $G$ and a vertex set $S$ of $G$, an $S$-cycle is a cycle containing a vertex of $S$. We provide an example $G$ on $21$ vertices where $G$ has no two vertex-disjoint $S$-cycles, but three vertices are not sufficient to hit all $S$-cycles. On the other hand, we show that four vertices are enough to hit all $S$-cycles whenever a graph has no two vertex-disjoint $S$-cycles.

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Figure 1. Graphs that appear in the proof. • Let K` 4 denote the graph obtained from K4 by adding a multiple edge to an edge of K4. Let K`` 4 denote the graph obtained from K4 by adding a multiple edge to each of two incident edges of K4. Let K``` 4 denote the graph obtained from K4 by adding two multiple edges to an edge of K4. • Let W` 4 denote the graph obtained from W4 by adding an edge between a vertex of degree 4 and a … view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. A graph G with S “ tx1, x2, y1, y2, z1, z2u where G has no two vertex-disjoint S-cycles, but it has no S-cycle hitting set of size at most 3. If T contains no vertex in tai , bi , ci : 1 ď i ď 4u, then T does not meet the S-cycle a1x1b4b2y2c3c1z1a4a2x2b3b1y1c4c2z2a3a1. So, T contains a vertex in tai , bi , ci : 1 ď i ď 4u, and by symmetry, we may assume that a1 P T. Observe that any S-cycle in G´a1 does not contain … view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. A path P in a rooted graph pG, Sq. Rectangles depict vertices in S. Lemma 4.1. Let pG, Sq be a rooted graph with µpG, Sq ď 1, and let W be a subgraph of G. Let P be a path of W whose all internal vertices have degree 2 in W such that Pmid is non-empty, W ´ V pPmidq contains an S-cycle, and G has no pW, Pmid, W ´ V pPmidqq-path. Let a and b be the gates of P. Then the following are satisfied. (1) ta, bu separates Pmi… view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: K`` 3 is nice because it has no two vertex-disjoint cycles, but if we subdivide two edges and add an edge uw as in figure, then we have two vertex-disjoint cycles. Proof. Observe that a vertex v of S in G hits all cycles along a certifying path containing v. Let F be t…
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Figure 5. Figure 5: The K`` 4 -subdivision in Proposition 6.5. one vertex, or C2 contains a W1 -extension X2. In the former case, we have two vertex-disjoint S-cycles. So, we may assume that the latter statement holds. If the both endpoints of X2 are branching vertices of W1 , then it con…
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: The three paths X1, X4, X in Claim 6.6 of Proposition 6.5. The dotted S-cycle along X1, X4, X is disjoint from Q1 Y R2 2 Y R1 2 . • adding a gate of Q1 if V pQ1 midq is non-empty, • adding a vertex w P S on Q2 Y Q3 where distQ2YQ3pw, v3q is minimum, otherwise. Clearly,…
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Figure 7. Figure 7: The K``` 4 -subdivision in Proposition 6.9. • (Case 2. Q1 mid is non-empty.) By the construction of T, w is a gate of Q1 , and thus H contains no vertex of Q1 mid. We first deal with the case when u ‰ v3. We introduce an auxiliary graph F on the vertex set tR 1 2 , R2 …
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Figure 8. Figure 8: The W` 4 -subdivision in Proposition 7.2. Proof. Let W be an S-cycle W4-subdivision in G. Let v1, v2, v3, v4, w be the branching vertices of W such that w is the vertex of degree 4, and for each i P t1, 2, 3u, let Qi be the certifying path from vi to vi`1, and Q4 be th…
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Figure 9. Figure 9: The W˚ 4 -subdivision in Proposition 7.6. and i, j P t1, 2, 3u. If Xi and Rj share an endpoint, then it is easy. Suppose Xi and Rj do not share an endpoint; for example, consider R1 and P 3 . If there is an pR1 , P3 q-path Y in G ´ T, Y and one of the two subpaths from…

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