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Measurement of $p$-wave contacts in an ultracold Fermi gas of $^6$Li atoms

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desk verdict First 6Li p-wave contact measurement; plausible and useful, but the doublet-overlap assumption and systematic error budget need work before the quantitative claims can be fully trusted. read the letter →

arxiv 2411.13086 v3 pith:2WGVAXCK submitted 2024-11-20 cond-mat.quant-gas

Kenta Nagase , Soki Oshima , Hikaru Takahashi , Takashi Mukaiyama This is my paper · ORCID
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keywords p-wavecontactRFspectroscopyultracoldFermigaslithium-6Feshbachresonanceuniversalrelationsvirialexpansioneffectiverange
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The reading

This paper reports the first measurement of p-wave contacts in a Fermi gas of 6Li atoms, using radio-frequency spectroscopy near the 159 G p-wave Feshbach resonance. The high-frequency tails of the RF spectra follow the predicted universal power laws, allowing the authors to extract the two p-wave contact parameters, Cv and CR. Their magnetic-field dependence agrees with virial expansion theory at large detuning and near the Fermi temperature, and the magnitude of Cv is consistent with the effective-range scaling predicted by theory. This provides a second experimental dataset for p-wave contacts, confirming species-independent universal relations and offering a path to thermodynamic descriptions of strongly interacting p-wave fermions.

What carries the argument

The central object is the RF spectroscopy tail formula (Eq. 1), which expresses the normalized transfer rate as a sum of two power laws with coefficients set by Cv and CR. This formula, derived from universal relations for p-wave interactions, allows contact values to be extracted from the high-frequency spectral tail. The analysis assumes the m=0 and m=±1 components of the p-wave Feshbach resonance doublet are completely overlapped, so the measured contacts represent their sum.

What would settle it

Perform RF spectroscopy with a frequency resolution finer than the expected spin-spin doublet splitting, or tune the magnetic field to resolve the m=0 and m=±1 components, and check whether the high-frequency tail still follows the single-power-law form of Eq. (1) or splits into two distinct asymptotes. A deviation from the prediction would invalidate the doublet-overlap assumption and the reported contact values.

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Core claim

The authors demonstrate that the normalized RF transfer rate in a 6Li Fermi gas exhibits the predicted universal high-frequency tail, scaling as \tilde{\omega}^{-1/2} and \tilde{\omega}^{-3/2}, with coefficients proportional to the p-wave contacts Cv and CR. From these tails, they extract the magnetic-field dependence of both contacts and find that Cv peaks slightly detuned from the resonance while CR peaks at a larger detuning, mirroring observations in 40K. The data agree with virial expansion theory at large detuning where T/TF is near 0.5, and the measured Cv is about an order of magnitude smaller than in 40K, consistent with the prediction that Cv scales with the effective range parameter.

Load-bearing premise

The entire quantitative analysis assumes that the two components of the p-wave Feshbach resonance doublet (m=0 and m=±1) are completely overlapped in the RF spectra, so that Eq. (1) applies with the contacts summed over magnetic sublevels; if the doublet is not fully overlapped, the extracted contact values would be incorrect.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • If the measured power-law tails are universal, then p-wave contact relations hold across different atomic species, extending the universality known for s-wave contacts.
  • The extracted contact values can be used with adiabatic theorems to estimate thermodynamic quantities, such as energy, of strongly interacting p-wave Fermi gases that only reach local equilibrium.
  • The observed scaling of Cv with effective range supports the theoretical prediction that Cv is proportional to kFR, enabling comparisons across systems with different effective ranges.
  • The magnetic-field dependence of Cv and CR provides a benchmark for testing virial expansion theory in the high-temperature, large-detuning regime.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the doublet overlap assumption fails, the extracted contacts would represent a mix of the m=0 and m=±1 components; high-resolution spectroscopy that resolves the doublet could measure each contact separately and test the universality of the tail formula at a finer level.
  • The technique of varying the RF pulse duration to track contact growth could be applied to other lossy strongly interacting systems where short hold times are impractical.
  • Momentum-distribution or thermodynamic measurements, which avoid the heating caused by long RF pulses, could provide contact values in the Fermi-degenerate regime and enable a direct test of effective-range scaling against the 40K results.
  • Extending this approach to lower dimensions could reveal dimensionality effects on p-wave contacts and universal relations, particularly relevant to non-s-wave superfluidity.
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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper reports measurements of the p-wave contact parameters Cv and CR in a spin-polarized Fermi gas of 6Li atoms near the 159 G p-wave Feshbach resonance, using two-pulse RF spectroscopy. The high-frequency tails of the RF spectra are shown to follow the predicted \tilde{\omega}^{-1/2} and \tilde{\omega}^{-3/2} asymptotic forms of Eq. (1). The magnetic-field dependence of the contacts is compared with virial expansion theory (Eqs. (2)-(4)), and the authors report reasonable agreement at large detuning (Ed/EF > 2) near half the Fermi temperature, while noting that near resonance atom loss and heating preclude a simple comparison. The observed Cv is about one order of magnitude smaller than in 40K, consistent with a linear scaling in k_F R. The paper also presents a time-dependence study of Cv varying the RF pulse duration, interpreted as contact growth dynamics.

Significance. If the quantitative results hold, this is the first measurement of p-wave contacts in an atomic species other than 40K and provides a valuable cross-species test of p-wave universal relations and of the virial expansion at finite temperature. The observation of both predicted power-law tails in a second system is a useful and clear confirmation. The manuscript is generally well written, the experimental sequence is described in reasonable detail, and the authors are explicit about their assumptions (e.g., the complete overlap of the doublet structure) and about limitations from atom loss and heating. However, the central quantitative claims—especially the validation of the virial expansion and the cross-species comparison of Cv—rest on assumptions that are not yet quantitatively justified, as detailed in the major comments.

major comments (4)
  1. [RF spectroscopy] The assumption that the m=0 and |m|=±1 doublet components of the p-wave Feshbach resonance are completely overlapped is load-bearing for the extraction of Cv and CR from Eq. (1), but the manuscript does not quantify the doublet splitting for the 159 G resonance or compare it with the measured scale of contact variation (0.05–0.1 G in Fig. 3). Since the authors cite Ref. [26], in which dipolar splittings were resolved, the splitting is known to be nonzero; if it is comparable to the detuning range over which Cv and CR peak, the single-channel virial expansion curves (Eqs. (2)–(4)) are not the correct prediction, and the extracted contacts are sums over channels with different v_m and R_m. The paper should provide the splitting magnitude and either justify complete overlap quantitatively or redo the analysis with a two-channel model, including the convolved magnetic-field dependence of the contacts.
  2. [Magnetic field dependence] The comparison of measured contacts with virial expansion theory in Fig. 3 uses homogeneous-gas calculations at fixed density n and temperature T/TF, but the experiment is performed in a harmonic trap and suffers substantial atom loss (up to 70%) and heating (T/TF rises to about 1 near resonance). The theory curves use n=2.0×10^19 m^-3 and T/TF=0.4, 0.5, 0.6 without any local-density approximation or trap averaging, and the claimed measured value T/TF≈0.5 in the range 2<Ed/EF<3 is not presented as data. As a result, the statement that the data validate the virial expansion in the large-detuning range is not quantitatively supported. The authors should either present trap-averaged theory curves or justify why using a single peak density is adequate, and they should show the actual measured temperatures (or a clear explanation of how they were determined) for each detuning.
  3. [Magnetic field dependence, Fig. 3] The error bars in Fig. 3 are only fitting errors, while the shaded areas indicate that the extracted Cv and especially CR vary substantially with the chosen fitting range (between \tilde{\omega}>3 and >7). This systematic variation is not included in the reported uncertainties and is not compared with the magnitude of the deviations from the theory curves. For CR, the shaded band is wide enough to include negative values, and the theory curve can lie entirely within the band, making the claimed agreement essentially untestable. The authors should provide a systematic uncertainty estimate that includes the fitting-range dependence and report total uncertainties for each extracted contact, so that the level of agreement with theory can be meaningfully assessed.
  4. [Contact dynamics] The Cv dynamics data in Fig. 2 are obtained by extracting Cv from a single data point at \tilde{\omega}=6.44 under the assertion that the \tilde{\omega}^{-3/2} term is absent at \delta B=28.8 mG. No spectrum or fit is shown for this detuning, and the absence of the CR contribution is not demonstrated. If a small CR component is present, the extracted Cv is biased and the inferred growth timescale would be affected. The authors should either show that the tail at this detuning is consistent with a pure \tilde{\omega}^{-1/2} law (e.g., by fitting the two-term form of Eq. (1)) or present the uncertainty from the possible CR contamination in the dynamics results.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Abstract and Conclusions] The abstract states the theory is validated 'near the Fermi temperature', while the main text (and the actual comparison in Fig. 3) refers to T/TF≈0.5, i.e., half the Fermi temperature; this wording should be made consistent.
  2. [Eq. (1)] The arrow in Eq. (1) should be a limit sign (asymptotic equality for \tilde{\omega}\to\infty), and the normalization of \tilde{\Gamma} should be defined more explicitly; currently the denominator is introduced only in the preceding sentence.
  3. [Magnetic field dependence] The dimensionless dimer energy Ed/EF is defined only via the expression Ed/EF=2R/(k_F v); the quantity Ed itself is not defined. A short definition (e.g., the two-body bound-state energy on the BEC side) would help the reader.
  4. [Sample preparation] The paper states T/TF=0.30 initially and later says T/TF rises to about 1 near resonance, but the details of how T is measured after the RF pulses are not given. A brief description of the temperature measurement or a reference to a previous work would be useful.
  5. [Contact dynamics, Fig. 2] The error bars in Fig. 2 are not defined; the text says each dataset was repeated three times, so the authors should state whether the error bars are the standard deviation or standard error of the mean.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: contacts are extracted from an external universal-relation asymptote and compared with independently parameterized virial theory; only minor same-group scattering-parameter citations.

full rationale

The derivation chain is self-contained with respect to the contact extraction: Eq. (1)'s tail asymptote is an external universal-relation prediction, and the RF spectra are fit to it, not the other way around; no parameter in Eq. (1) is defined from the fitted contacts. The virial-expansion comparison in Fig. 3 is likewise independent: the solid and dashed curves use independently determined values of kF, n, T/TF, vbgΔB, and R (Refs. [27], [32]), not values fitted to the measured Cv and CR. The only same-group citations are these scattering-parameter measurements, which are external experimental results rather than assumptions equivalent to the target data. The paper's explicit doublet-overlap assumption ('we assume that the doublet structure of the p-wave Feshbach resonance, caused by spin-spin interaction [26,30,31], is completely overlapped') is a quantitative accuracy caveat, not a circularity: it does not define the measured contacts in terms of the theory being validated. No self-definitional, fitted-input-as-prediction, or self-citation-load-bearing reduction is present.

Assumptions & free parameters 1 free parameters · 6 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on a small set of experimental and theoretical assumptions, most of which are stated in the text. No new particles, forces, or dimensions are introduced. The only hand-chosen parameter in the analysis is the high-frequency tail fitting cutoff, whose influence is partly quantified by the shaded regions in Fig. 3. The scattering parameters are prior experimental inputs rather than free parameters fitted here.

free parameters (1)
  • High-frequency tail fitting threshold = omega_tilde > 5
    Contact values are extracted by fitting only the tail data above this cutoff, chosen by the authors. The paper assesses the variation using cutoffs omega_tilde > 3 and > 7, and the extracted Cv and CR values change within the shaded regions of Fig. 3, so the central quantitative claim depends on this hand-chosen threshold.
assumptions (6)
  • domain assumption The m=0 and m=±1 components of the 159 G p-wave Feshbach resonance doublet are completely overlapped in the RF spectra.
    Stated in the 'RF spectroscopy' section: 'we assume that the doublet structure of the p-wave Feshbach resonance, caused by spin-spin interaction, is completely overlapped.' This assumption is required for Eq. (1) to apply with contacts summed over m.
  • domain assumption The normalized RF transfer rate tail is given by Eq. (1) with time-independent contact coefficients Cv and CR.
    The extraction of contacts from the high-frequency tail assumes the universal relation from Yu et al. and Yoshida and Ueda. The paper's own contact dynamics show the contact grows over the pulse duration, so the measured values represent an average over the measurement interval rather than a strictly instantaneous contact.
  • domain assumption The virial expansion theory remains applicable to the trapped gas down to T/TF about 0.5.
    In 'Magnetic field dependence', the authors state: 'Assuming that the virial expansion theory can be applied to the trapped gas down to T/TF about 0.5 [10]'. The comparison with theory at large detuning depends on this assumption.
  • domain assumption The RF transfer remains in the linear-response regime for pulse durations up to about 2 ms.
    The contact extraction uses a constant transfer rate Gamma = N2/tRF. The inset to Fig. 2 shows a linear increase in transfer fraction up to 2 ms, followed by decay, so the authors use tRF below 2 ms for the field-dependence data.
  • domain assumption The p-wave scattering parameters vbgDeltaB = -2.8(3) x 10^6 a0^3 and effective range R = 11 a0 from Refs. [27,32] describe the 6Li resonance.
    These values, taken from prior work by the same group, are used to convert magnetic-field detuning to Ed/EF and to compute virial expansion predictions. They are independent measurements, but the comparison depends on their accuracy.
  • standard math The phase shift is parameterized as k^3 cot(delta(k)) = -1/v - k^2/R.
    This standard effective-range expansion for p-wave scattering is used in the virial expansion expressions, Eqs. (2)-(4).

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abstract

Using radio-frequency (RF) spectroscopy, we measure the $p$-wave contacts in a Fermi gas of $^6$Li atoms near the $p$-wave Feshbach resonance. The RF spectrum exhibits clear asymptotic behavior, characterized by $\tilde{\omega}^{-1/2}$ and $\tilde{\omega}^{-3/2}$ dependencies. The magnetic-field dependence of the $p$-wave contacts agrees reasonably well with the virial expansion theory in a detuned magnetic field range, validating the theory near the Fermi temperature. The $p$-wave contacts measured in this study constitute a second dataset, complementing the data obtained from the $^{40}$K system and contributing valuable insights into $p$-wave interactions in ultracold Fermi gases.

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