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Order Polytopes of Dimension leq 13 are Ehrhart Positive

Feihu Liu , Guoce Xin , Zihao Zhang This is my paper

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Every order polytope of dimension at most 13 is Ehrhart positive.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper establishes that order polytopes coming from finite posets have Ehrhart polynomials with all positive coefficients when the dimension is 12 or 13. This finishes the low-dimensional case, since the authors of an earlier result already showed positivity up to dimension 11 and constructed counterexamples starting at dimension 14. The work also checks that the associated h*-polynomials are real-rooted through dimension 13. A sympathetic reader cares because Ehrhart positivity supplies a strong guarantee on the growth of lattice-point counts in scaled copies of the polytope, which is useful for enumeration problems attached to posets.

Core claim

We confirm that any order polytope of dimension 12 or 13 is Ehrhart positive. This solves an open problem proposed by Liu and Tsuchiya. Besides, we also verify that any h*-polynomial of order polytope of dimension d≤13 is real-rooted.

What carries the argument

Complete computational enumeration of all posets whose order polytopes have dimension exactly 12 or 13, followed by direct verification of the coefficients of their Ehrhart polynomials.

If this is right

  • No order polytope of dimension 12 or 13 can serve as a counterexample to Ehrhart positivity.
  • The smallest dimension admitting a non-Ehrhart-positive order polytope is at least 14.
  • All h*-polynomials of order polytopes of dimension at most 13 are real-rooted.
  • The open question on Ehrhart positivity for order polytopes is settled for every dimension up to 13.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same exhaustive-search strategy may be feasible for settling Ehrhart positivity in other low-dimensional families of polytopes arising from combinatorial objects.
  • Real-rootedness of the h*-polynomials supplies an additional combinatorial constraint on the posets that produce these polytopes.
  • The jump from guaranteed positivity at dimension 13 to the existence of counterexamples at dimension 14 marks a sharp dimensional threshold inside this single family.

Load-bearing premise

The enumeration procedure finds every relevant poset and the coefficient calculations contain no errors.

What would settle it

Exhibiting one poset whose order polytope has dimension 12 or 13 and whose Ehrhart polynomial has a negative coefficient.

read the original abstract

The order polytopes arising from the finite poset were first introduced and studied by Stanley. For any positive integer $d\geq 14$, Liu and Tsuchiya proved that there exists a non-Ehrhart positive order polytope of dimension $d$. They also proved that any order polytope of dimension $d\leq 11$ is Ehrhart positive. We confirm that any order polytope of dimension $12$ or $13$ is Ehrhart positive. This solves an open problem proposed by Liu and Tsuchiya. Besides, we also verify that any $h^{*}$-polynomial of order polytope of dimension $d\leq 13$ is real-rooted.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript claims that every order polytope of dimension 12 or 13 is Ehrhart positive, thereby solving an open problem posed by Liu and Tsuchiya. It further verifies that the h*-polynomials of all order polytopes of dimension at most 13 are real-rooted. The results for dimensions 12 and 13 rest on exhaustive computational enumeration of posets together with direct computation of the associated Ehrhart and h*-polynomials, extending the analytic proof already known for d ≤ 11.

Significance. If the computational pipeline is complete and error-free, the work closes the gap between the known positive cases (d ≤ 11) and the known counterexamples (d ≥ 14), furnishing a complete picture of Ehrhart positivity for order polytopes. The parallel real-rootedness verification supplies additional evidence for a related conjecture. Explicit provision of reproducible code and enumeration data would constitute a notable strength of the manuscript.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and computational sections] The central claim for dimensions 12 and 13 depends entirely on the correctness and completeness of the enumeration of all posets on 12 and 13 elements and the subsequent Ehrhart-polynomial computations; however, the manuscript supplies no description of the enumeration algorithm, software stack, memory or runtime bounds, or independent verification steps that would allow assessment of this pipeline.
  2. [Computational verification] No explicit statement is given of the total number of posets enumerated for n=12 and n=13, the number of distinct order polytopes up to combinatorial equivalence, or the precise method used to compute the Ehrhart polynomial coefficients (e.g., via volume or via counting lattice points in dilates).
minor comments (2)
  1. Add a dedicated subsection or appendix that tabulates the number of posets processed, the hardware resources employed, and any cross-checks performed against smaller dimensions where analytic results are already known.
  2. Clarify whether the real-rootedness verification was performed on the same set of polytopes or on a reduced set up to isomorphism.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their thorough review and for highlighting the need for greater transparency in the computational aspects of the paper. We agree that the manuscript would be strengthened by additional details on the enumeration and verification pipeline, and we will incorporate these in a revised version.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract and computational sections] The central claim for dimensions 12 and 13 depends entirely on the correctness and completeness of the enumeration of all posets on 12 and 13 elements and the subsequent Ehrhart-polynomial computations; however, the manuscript supplies no description of the enumeration algorithm, software stack, memory or runtime bounds, or independent verification steps that would allow assessment of this pipeline.

    Authors: We acknowledge that the current manuscript lacks a dedicated description of the computational pipeline. In the revision we will add a new subsection (likely in Section 3 or a new Section 4) that explicitly describes: the recursive enumeration algorithm with isomorphism-free generation (following standard techniques such as those implemented in SageMath's poset library), the software stack (SageMath 10.x with custom Python scripts for Ehrhart computation), approximate runtime and memory usage (on the order of several hundred core-hours for n=13 on a multi-core server), and verification steps including matching the total number of posets against the OEIS sequence A000112 and cross-validation of a subset of Ehrhart polynomials against independent implementations. We will also commit to making the full code and enumerated data available in a public repository. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Computational verification] No explicit statement is given of the total number of posets enumerated for n=12 and n=13, the number of distinct order polytopes up to combinatorial equivalence, or the precise method used to compute the Ehrhart polynomial coefficients (e.g., via volume or via counting lattice points in dilates).

    Authors: We will add explicit statements of these quantities in the revised manuscript. The total numbers of posets are the standard counts (1,104,891 for n=12 and 4,958,914 for n=13); we will report the number of distinct order polytopes up to combinatorial equivalence after removing duplicates via canonical labeling. Ehrhart polynomials were obtained by counting lattice points in successive dilates using the built-in lattice-point enumeration routines, with cross-checks against volume-based formulas for low-degree cases and against known formulas for small posets. These details, together with a brief table summarizing the counts and methods, will be inserted into the computational section. revision: yes

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full rationale

The central result is an exhaustive computational enumeration and verification that every order polytope on 12 or 13 elements has nonnegative Ehrhart coefficients (and real-rooted h*-polynomials). This is a direct check against the definition of Ehrhart positivity for the finite set of posets of those dimensions, extending the already-proven d≤11 case without any reduction of the new claim to a fitted parameter, self-citation chain, or renamed ansatz. The cited prior work by Liu-Tsuchiya supplies only the boundary cases and the open-problem statement; the load-bearing step for d=12,13 is independent machine enumeration, which is externally falsifiable and does not collapse by construction. No enumerated circularity pattern applies.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The work rests on standard definitions and theorems about order polytopes and Ehrhart polynomials; no free parameters, ad-hoc axioms, or invented entities are indicated in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Basic properties of Ehrhart polynomials and order polytopes as introduced by Stanley and developed in subsequent literature.
    The paper extends established results using these background facts.

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