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A Spectroscopic and Interferometric Study of W Serpentis Stars. I. Circumbinary Outflow in the Interacting Binary W Serpentis

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Pith's one-line read W Serpentis's mass donor has been seen for the first time, and its orbital motion sets the binary mass ratio at 0.36.

desk verdict First credible donor detection and RV curve in W Ser, plus first CHARA interferometry, but the headline masses hang on an unverified Roche-filling/synchronous-rotation assumption. read the letter →

arxiv 2501.06982 v1 pith:643YWLVS submitted 2025-01-13 astro-ph.SR

Katherine Shepard , Douglas R. Gies , Gail H. Schaefer , Narsireddy Anugu , Fabien R. Baron , Cyprien Lanthermann , John D. Monnier , Stefan Kraus
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The reading

W Serpentis is the prototype of the Serpentid interacting binaries, but its spectrum is so tangled with shell lines, emission lines, and disk features that neither star had ever been seen directly. This paper claims to have found the mass donor at last, in a narrow metal-line window between the shell lines, and to have measured its orbital motion, its rotation, and hence the binary mass ratio. That matters because W Ser is a close-up laboratory for non-conservative mass transfer: how much mass a donor loses to a circumbinary disk rather than to its companion is a key unknown in binary evolution. The paper also reports the first long-baseline interferometric resolution of the binary and a set of Doppler signatures that it reads as an outflow through the L3 Lagrangian point feeding a circumbinary disk.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing identity is the ratio of the donor's projected rotational velocity to its orbital semiamplitude, $V \sin i/K = (1+q) r_L(q)$, where $q$ is the donor-to-gainer mass ratio and $r_L(q)$ is the fractional Roche-lobe radius computed from the standard formula for a given $q$. Because both velocities are scaled by the same $\sin i$ and orbital frequency, this ratio depends only on $q$, making the mass ratio measurable without an inclination or a gainer radial velocity curve. The paper measures both quantities from the newly found donor lines — $V \sin i$ from rotational broadening fits to seven line profiles, $K$ from a circular orbital fit — and inverts the identity for $q$. A second piece of machinery is an eclipsing light-curve model in which the gainer is replaced by a small star plus an optically thick flared torus; fitting the long-running photometry returns the inclination and the outer torus radius. The Doppler-tomography reconstruction provides the third piece, recovering the donor, the shell, and the gainer-torus spectral components under assumed velocity curves.

What would settle it

Measure the donor's true spin period through periodic line-profile or photometric modulation: if it is not the 14.17-day orbital period, the synchronous-rotation assumption fails and the derived $q = 0.36$ and the 2.0 and 5.7 solar-mass values are not valid. Alternatively, obtain a radial velocity curve for the gainer, for example from the torus's He I emission or from high-resolution ultraviolet spectra, and compare its semiamplitude directly with $K_d$ to check the ratio 0.36.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

The central discovery is the first detection of the cool mass donor in W Ser and the first radial velocity curve for it: from ten high-resolution optical spectra, the donor's weak Fe I and Ca I absorption lines follow a circular orbit with semiamplitude $K_d = 125.8 \pm 6.9$ km/s and systemic velocity $\gamma = -27.2 \pm 4.2$ km/s. The lines are rotationally broadened to $V \sin i = 50.2 \pm 5.5$ km/s. Assuming the donor fills its Roche lobe and rotates synchronously, the ratio $V \sin i/K_d = (1+q) r_L(q)$ gives a mass ratio $q = M_d/M_g = 0.36 \pm 0.09$, which combined with an eclipsing light-curve fit ($i = 79.1^\circ$) yields masses $M_d = 2.0 M_\odot$ and $M_g = 5.7 M_\odot$. Partially resolved long-baseline interferometry shows the fainter component moving on an angular orbit consistent with these parameters and the parallax distance of 857 pc, fixing the sky orientation (longitude of ascending node $78^\circ \pm 12^\circ$, clockwise motion). Tomographic reconstruction finds an 8000 K pseudo-photosphere and disk-like line profiles around the hidden gainer, and phase-dependent Doppler excesses in H$\alpha$, O I, Si IV, and the Na D lines are interpreted as an outflow from the L3 region that feeds a circumbinary disk.

Load-bearing premise

The derivation of the mass ratio and masses rests entirely on the donor exactly filling its Roche lobe and rotating synchronously with the 14.17-day orbit; if either condition fails, the relation $V \sin i/K = (1+q) r_L(q)$ no longer fixes $q$ and all derived masses shift.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • W Ser's donor is a cool ~5000 K, ~2.0 solar-mass star that has already transferred most of its mass to a hidden 5.7 solar-mass gainer, confirming that the system has reversed its mass ratio and is now in the rapid, period-increasing phase of mass transfer.
  • The strong 'shell' absorption and double-peaked H$\alpha$, Ca II, and Fe II emission form in a circumbinary disk rather than in the inner binary; their near-stationary velocities reflect disk gas moving mostly across the line of sight.
  • The partially resolved interferometry places the binary on a predicted angular orbit of 0.264 mas semimajor axis, with clockwise motion and a longitude of ascending node near 78°, giving the first direct constraint on the system's orientation in the sky.
  • Phase-dependent blue and red excesses in H$\alpha$, O I, and Si IV mark an outflow channel near the L3 Lagrangian point, so a substantial part of the transferred mass escapes the inner binary and accumulates in a circumbinary disk whose outskirts form dust.
  • Continued stripping of the donor should shrink its tidal influence and eventually shut down the L3 outflow, leaving a rapidly rotating B-type star with a hot, stripped companion — a possible Be + sdO binary.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the donor's rotation departs from synchronism by even 20%, the quoted $q = 0.36$ and the derived masses would shift by tens of percent; a direct spin measurement, such as photometric or line-profile modulation at the 14.17-day period, would settle whether the Roche-filling synchronous assumption holds.
  • The interferometric center of light may be displaced from the gainer's geometric position by the asymmetric L3 outflow and the near-side torus rim; tracking that photocenter across orbital phases could map the outflow and weigh it directly.
  • The same $V \sin i / K$ ratio technique can be applied to the other eight Serpentid candidates in this survey, giving mass ratios for systems whose gainers also stay hidden; the method's assumptions can be cross-checked by comparing systems with independently known fill-out factors.
  • Combining the measured period increase with the L3 outflow geometry and the outer torus radius from the light-curve fit could yield a quantitative mass-loss rate, testing whether the escape fraction is indeed of order unity as the simulations suggest.
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Summary. The paper analyzes new APO/ARCES optical spectroscopy and first CHARA/MIRC-X and MYSTIC near-IR interferometry of the interacting binary W Ser. It updates the orbital ephemeris, attributes the sharp shell lines to a circumbinary disk, and reports the first detection of photospheric absorption lines of the cool mass donor. From those lines the authors measure a donor radial-velocity semiamplitude K_d = 125.8 ± 6.9 km/s and a projected rotational velocity V sin i = 50.2 ± 5.5 km/s. Combining these with the assumptions that the donor fills its Roche lobe and rotates synchronously, they derive a mass ratio q = M_d/M_g = 0.36 ± 0.09. ELC fits to the ASAS V-band light curve give an inclination i ≈ 79°, leading to masses M_d = 2.0 M_sun and M_g = 5.7 M_sun. Doppler tomography is used to reconstruct a putative gainer-torus spectrum, and the partially resolved interferometric positions are compared with the predicted angular orbit, yielding a longitude of the ascending node Ω = 78° ± 12°.

Significance. If the donor detection and the derived dynamical quantities hold, the paper represents a substantial step forward for W Ser: it would provide the first direct spectrum and radial-velocity curve of the mass donor in the prototype Serpentid, a physically motivated mass ratio, and the first interferometric constraints on the binary orbit. The paper is also commendably honest about its limitations: Table 4 explicitly leaves uncertainties unquoted because of assumption-dependent parameters, and the interferometric fits are carefully cautioned as parameter-sensitive. The central result, however, is conditional on unverified assumptions about the donor's Roche-lobe fill and synchronous rotation, so the headline masses should be treated as model-dependent rather than dynamically established.

major comments (4)
  1. [§5.2, Eq. (5)] The derivation of q = 0.36 ± 0.09 rests entirely on the assumptions that the donor exactly fills its Roche lobe and rotates synchronously with the orbit. Neither condition is measured, and the paper itself declines to quote uncertainties on the masses in Table 4 because of this. The relation V_d sin i / K_d = (1+q) r_L(q) changes if the donor underfills its Roche lobe by tens of percent or if its spin is not synchronous, and the resulting q and masses shift. The manuscript needs a quantitative sensitivity analysis: for example, what q and what M_d, M_g result if the donor radius is 80% or 120% of the Roche-lobe radius, or if the rotation is 0.8 or 1.2 times synchronous? Without such a test, the central mass determination is not robust.
  2. [§3.3, Table 1] The donor detection rests on weak absorption lines in a single 80 Å window (5550–5630 Å), and the circular-orbit fit has an rms of 13.4 km/s against formal measurement errors of 3–5 km/s, with residuals reaching ±21 km/s. Because K_d is a load-bearing input to the mass ratio, the CCF detections need validation beyond the plotted peak velocities: the authors should report the CCF peak heights and signal-to-noise per epoch, test the stability of the velocities under jackknife or bootstrap resampling over lines and epochs, and demonstrate that the measured peaks are not contaminated by the strong shell lines or by emission/disk features in the selected window.
  3. [§3.4 and §5.2] The reconstructed 'gainer' component is produced using a gainer velocity curve K_g = q K_d = 44.8 km/s that is itself derived from the same q obtained in §5.2 via Eq. (5). Consequently, the presence of features in the reconstructed gainer spectrum is not an independent check of q or of the gainer's orbital motion. The paper does not explicitly claim such independence, but the framing in §3.4 invites that reading. To make the gainer component informative, the authors should fit K_g (or equivalently q) as a free parameter in the tomography, e.g., by sweeping a grid of K_g values and evaluating the reconstructed line contrast, or by cross-correlating against the predicted gainer velocity curve with K_g as a free variable.
  4. [§5.3 and Table 4] The ELC light-curve fits fix q, K_d, the donor radius (via Roche filling), and many disk parameters (temperature law, opening angle, inner and outer torus radii), leaving only the inclination and one other parameter free. The resulting i ≈ 79° is therefore conditional on the same assumptions as q, and the masses in Table 4 inherit this conditionality without any quoted uncertainty. The paper should propagate the uncertainty in q into the mass estimates (for example, using the allowed q range in Fig. 10) and should report how i and the masses respond to plausible changes in the disk temperature law, opening angle, and third-light fraction. As written, the values M_d = 2.0 M_sun and M_g = 5.7 M_sun are presented with an implied precision that the text itself disavows.
minor comments (4)
  1. [§4.1] The assumption that the V-band component flux ratio f2/f1 = 1/2 also applies in the H and K bands is ad hoc, and the authors note that the fitted interferometric separations depend on it; this makes the claimed agreement of the CHARA positions with the predicted orbit conditional, and the text should state this limitation more prominently than the current caveat in §4.2.
  2. [§5.4, Table 4] Table 4 gives no uncertainties for the masses, radii, or torus dimensions. While the text explains that this is due to unquantifiable assumptions, the authors should at least quote the formal propagation from the quoted errors on K_d, q, and i, and mark the assumption-dominated parameters clearly, so that readers can distinguish statistical from systematic uncertainty.
  3. [§5.5] The sentence referring to the Na D doublet says the weak absorption components are visible in 'the right panel of Fig. 3,' but Fig. 3 shows Hα and He I; the Na D features do not appear in that figure. The cross-reference appears to be incorrect.
  4. [§3.3] The V sin i = 50.2 ± 5.5 km/s measurement is made on the Doppler-tomography-reconstructed donor spectrum, but the reconstruction procedure (iteration count, gain, and velocity errors) can subtly broaden or distort line profiles. The quoted error is the line-to-line scatter; an estimate of systematic uncertainty from the reconstruction process would strengthen the result.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the mass ratio is solved from independent V sin i and K_d measurements via a standard, explicitly stated Roche-lobe/synchronous-rotation relation; the one self-citation is not load-bearing.

full rationale

The central derivation chain is not circular. In Section 3.3 the authors measure K_d = 125.8 ± 6.9 km/s from the donor's radial velocities and V sin i = 50.2 ± 5.5 km/s from rotationally broadened line profiles; in Section 5.2, Eq. (5), Vd sin i/Kd = (1+q)rL(q), is solved for q = 0.36 ± 0.09. This is a standard algebraic inversion of two measured quantities under two clearly stated assumptions (Roche-lobe filling and synchronous rotation), not a fit to the claimed prediction. The paper explicitly acknowledges the assumption dependence in Section 5.4: 'The uncertainties for a number of the results are not listed due to the inherent dependence on certain assumptions (such as the Roche lobe filling and synchronous rotation of the donor).' The only notable self-citation is the method attribution '(Gies & Bolton 1986)' in Section 5.2, but Eqs. (4)-(5) re-derive the method in the text, so the citation is not load-bearing. The Doppler-tomography reconstruction in Section 3.4 adopts the gainer velocity curve derived from the same q, but the paper does not present the reconstructed gainer features as an independent confirmation of q; the donor-line V sin i measurement is also cross-checked against the eclipse-phase spectrum (Fig. 5), which does not depend on q. The ASAS light-curve fit (Section 5.3) fixes q and Kd and fits inclination, so the resulting masses inherit the assumptions but the fit is not a renamed prediction of q. The CHARA interferometry (Section 4) is independent of the spectroscopic and photometric fits and is presented only as a consistency check, with the sensitivity of the binary positions to adopted parameters explicitly tabulated in Table 3. No fitted input is relabeled as a prediction, and no load-bearing step reduces by construction to its own inputs. Score 2 reflects one minor self-citation that is not load-bearing; the central claim retains independent empirical content.

Assumptions & free parameters 7 free parameters · 5 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central mass and mass ratio determinations depend on the measured V sin i and K_d plus the assumed Roche filling and synchronous rotation; the light curve adds two fitted parameters (inclination and torus radius) and the interferometric orbit check uses an assumed flux ratio and third-light fraction. No new physical entities are introduced; the opaque torus and circumbinary disk were postulated in prior work and are here constrained by new data.

free parameters (7)
  • Donor projected rotational velocity V sin i = 50.2 +/- 5.5 km/s
    Fitted by convolving MARCS model profiles with a rotational broadening function to seven lines in the reconstructed donor spectrum (Section 3.3); it directly enters Eq. (5) for the mass ratio.
  • Donor orbital semiamplitude K_d = 125.8 +/- 6.9 km/s
    From the circular orbital fit to the donor CCF velocities (Table 1, Fig. 6); used to compute the mass function F(M) and the mass ratio via Eq. (5).
  • Orbital inclination i = 79.1 deg
    From the ELC disk-model fit to the ASAS light curve (second trial; first trial gives 78.0 deg). Combined with q and F(M) to obtain masses in Table 4.
  • Gainer radius R_g = 3.8 R_sun
    Adopted for the small gainer in the disk light curve model; a first trial with a large B-star gainer gives R_g = 13.2 R_sun. This choice changes the derived disk parameters.
  • Torus outer radius R_torus = 14.9 R_sun
    Fitted in the ELC disk model to match the eclipse duration; determines the disk extent in Table 4 and the effective torus area used for the interferometric angular diameters.
  • Third light fraction f3 = 0.041 +/- 0.019
    Fitted from the deficit in the squared visibility at zero spatial frequency in CHARA data; included in the default interferometric binary fit parameters.
  • Component flux ratio f2/f1 = 1/2
    Assumed visible-band donor-to-gainer flux ratio used for the near-IR binary fits; the derived separations and position angles change if this ratio changes (Table 3).
assumptions (5)
  • domain assumption Donor exactly fills its Roche lobe and rotates synchronously with the orbit
    Invoked in Section 5.2 (Eqs. 4-5). This is the central assumption that converts V sin i into the mass ratio q; if relaxed, q and all derived masses change.
  • standard math Eggleton (1983) approximation for Roche lobe radius r_L(q)
    Used in Eq. (5) to relate V sin i and K_d to q. It is a standard approximation valid for binary Roche lobes.
  • domain assumption The spectrum can be decomposed into three components (shell, donor, gainer) with a fixed flux allocation
    Doppler tomography in Section 3.4 assumes the observed spectra are the sum of shell, donor, and gainer components, with half the flux in the shell and one quarter in each star. Line depths in reconstructed spectra scale with this arbitrary allocation.
  • ad hoc to paper The near-infrared component flux ratio equals the assumed V-band ratio f2/f1 = 1/2
    Section 4.1 adopts this to set the flux fractions for interferometric binary fits; the derived separations are sensitive to this choice (Table 3).
  • domain assumption The optically thick ELC disk model approximates the gainer's surroundings in the light curve fit
    Section 5.3 uses the ELC flared disk model (temperature law, opening angle 25 deg) to fit the ASAS light curve; a single-star fit yields a very different gainer radius though a similar inclination.

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W Serpentis is an eclipsing binary system and the prototype of the Serpentid class of variable stars. These are interacting binaries experiencing intense mass transfer and mass loss. However, the identities and properties of both stars in W Ser remain a mystery. Here we present an observational analysis of high quality, visible-band spectroscopy made with the Apache Point Observatory 3.5 m telescope and ARCES spectrograph plus the first near-IR, long-baseline interferometric observations obtained with the CHARA Array. We present examples of the appearance and radial velocities of the main spectral components: prominent emission lines, strong shell absorption lines, and weak absorption lines. We show that some of the weak absorption features are associated with the cool mass donor, and we present the first radial velocity curve for the donor star. The donor's absorption lines are rotationally broadened, and we derive a ratio of donor to gainer mass of 0.36 +/- 0.09 based on the assumptions that the donor fills its Roche lobe and rotates synchronously with the orbit. We use a fit of the ASAS light curve to determine the orbital inclination and mass estimates of 2.0 and 5.7 solar masses for the donor and gainer, respectively. The partially resolved interferometric measurements of orbital motion are consistent with our derived orbital properties and the distance from Gaia EDR3. Spectroscopic evidence indicates that the gainer is enshrouded in an opaque disk that channels the mass transfer stream into an outflow through the L3 region and into a circumbinary disk.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. The V -band light curve from the ASAS Catalogue of Variable Stars with two ELC fits over-plotted. The solid line is a fit made by assuming that the gainer has a typical B-type star temperature T(gainer) = 17900 K but large size (Rg = 13.2 R⊙). The thick gray line is a second fit with a small gainer (Rg = 3.8 R⊙) surrounded by a large, optically thick disk (Rd = 14.3 R⊙). and narrow “shell” lines (found in metal tran… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Left - The top panel shows each spectrum as a function of radial velocity for Hγ λ4340 with the normalized continuum offset to the associated orbital phase of the observation. The bottom panel shows the same plotted as a grayscale intensity between deepest absorption (black) and brightest emission (white) interpolated across orbital phase. Hγ appears in the center and is flanked by shell lines of Ti II λ4337.925 (−2… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Left - Hα λ6563 profiles (top panel) and the associated grayscale diagram (bottom panel) in the same format as [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Left - [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_4.png]
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Top - Observed APO/ARCES spectrum of W Ser obtained near the primary eclipse (HJD 2,459,364.830, ϕ = 0.014) in the rest frame with identifications of several prominent lines. Middle - Tomographic reconstruction of the donor’s spectrum offset for clarity. Bottom - MARCS…
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: CCF radial velocity measurements (points) for the donor’s spectral lines in the region seen in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_6.png]
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: A section of the tomographic reconstructed spectra of the shell component (bottom) and the gainer torus component (top, offset by +1 for clarity) along with line identifications of the most prominent lines. An AMBRE/MARCS model spectrum for Teff = 8000 K is included be…
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: Several features in the reconstructed spectrum of the mass gainer star, with two appearing disk-like. They are offset for clarity by +1.2, +0.5, 0, and −0.7 for Hγ λ4340, Fe II λ4924, Si II λ6371, and He I λ6678, respectively. The latter two features appear weak in the…
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: Estimated angular positions of the donor (fainter) relative to the gainer (placed at the origin) from partially resolved interferometry with the CHARA Array. The black circles show the measured positions from fits of the visibility and closure phase ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE…
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: Mass of the donor and the gainer based upon the donor star spectroscopic mass function F(M). The curved lines correspond to the best fit inclination of i = 79. ◦ 1 (solid line) and the lower limit for i = 90◦ (dash-dot line). The dotted lines represent the range given…
Figure 11
Figure 11. Figure 11: A graphical representation of the configuration of W Ser as seen from above. The mass donor is on the right and is filling its Roche lobe. The mass gainer (gray) is on the left and is surrounded by its accretion torus (light blue). The mass transfer stream lies betwee…
Figure 12
Figure 12. Figure 12: The CHARA Array data for W Ser are plotted as black points, while the best fit results from gridsearch are over-plotted in red. The visibilities are plotted in the left column, the closure phases are plotted in the second column, the positions associated with the best…
Figure 13
Figure 13. Figure 13: MACIM image reconstructions (Ireland et al. 2006) of the three 2023 nights of data for W Ser made by J. D. Monnier. Each image has 0.04 mas per pixel. These images illustrate not only the change in position angle that is related to binary motion, but also how difficul…

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