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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Scalable Second Order Optimization for Deep Learning
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension M1 0 0 0 M2 0 0 0 M3 # Example of Diagv(·) This will stack the vector element into a pure diagonal matrix: Diagv([a11, a22, a33]T ) =
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension From the Theorem D.1, the iterative procedure for Q can be simply obtained by taking the diagonals of M: Q = Diag E GSGT ∥S∥2 F
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Effects of last layer One crucial setup difference during evaluation for low-rank methods is whether the last layer is trained by full-rank Adam or not
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension LoRA: Low-Rank Adaptation of Large Language Models
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension FAdam: Adam is a natural gradient optimizer using diagonal empirical Fisher information
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension SGDR: Stochastic Gradient Descent with Warm Restarts
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension A New Perspective on Shampoo's Preconditioner
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Curvature-Informed SGD via General Purpose Lie-Group Preconditioners
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension SOAP: Improving and Stabilizing Shampoo using Adam
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension No More Adam: Learning Rate Scaling at Initialization is All You Need
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Large Batch Optimization for Deep Learning: Training BERT in 76 minutes
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Adam-mini: Use Fewer Learning Rates To Gain More
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension GaLore: Memory-Efficient LLM Training by Gradient Low-Rank Projection
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Note that our paper assumes Vec(·) is stacking columns of matrix whereas Gupta et al
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension In practice, SW AN proposes to compute the(GGT )− 1 2 using Newton-Schulz iterations
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Then, the normalization step of Lamb and Lars can be viewed as a 1-sample approximation to FIM* under the structure considered in Sec
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension U T U T c G ⊙2# =[U , Uc] U T G U T c G vuutE
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Large Batch Training of Convolutional Networks
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Efficient Approximations of the Fisher Matrix in Neural Networks using Kronecker Product Singular Value Decomposition
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension SWAN: SGD with Normalization and Whitening Enables Stateless LLM Training
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Preconditioner on Matrix Lie Group for SGD
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Fira: Can we achieve full-rank training of llms under low-rank constraint? arXiv preprint arXiv:2410.01623, 2024a
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Can We Remove the Square-Root in Adaptive Gradient Methods? A Second-Order Perspective
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Towards Efficient Optimizer Design for LLM via Structured Fisher Approximation with a Low-Rank Extension Adam: A Method for Stochastic Optimization
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