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Of pashas, popes, and indivisibles

Mikhail G. Katz , David Sherry , Monica Ugaglia This is my paper

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Theological and geopolitical factors in the 17th-century debate over indivisibles connect to the suppression of Cavalieri's religious order.

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The paper investigates the theological underpinnings of objections to Cavalieri's indivisibles, their historical roots, and the geopolitical situation of the era. It explores how these elements relate to the eventual suppression of Cavalieri's religious order. By analyzing sources from the 17th to the 21st centuries, the work aims to illuminate a less-studied aspect of the mathematical controversy.

Core claim

The theological objections to indivisibles, rooted in historical and geopolitical contexts, bear a relation to the suppression of Cavalieri's religious order.

What carries the argument

Examination of historical sources spanning the 17th through 21st centuries to trace connections between theological debates, geopolitics, and the order's suppression.

If this is right

  • The history of the method of indivisibles must account for religious and political influences beyond pure mathematics.
  • Objections by critics like Guldin may have had motivations tied to broader institutional conflicts.
  • The suppression of the order can be better understood through the lens of the indivisibles controversy.

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  • Similar connections might exist in other historical mathematical debates involving religious orders.
  • Further archival research could strengthen or refute the identified links.
  • Modern historiography of mathematics benefits from integrating theological contexts.

Load-bearing premise

The analyzed sources from the 17th through 21st centuries establish a substantive causal or influential relation between the theological and geopolitical elements of the indivisibles debate and the suppression of the religious order.

What would settle it

Discovery of primary documents indicating that the suppression of Cavalieri's order occurred independently of any theological or political response to the indivisibles method.

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The studies of Bonaventura Cavalieri's indivisibles by Giusti, Andersen, Mancosu and others provide a comprehensive picture of Cavalieri's mathematics, as well as of the mathematical objections to it as formulated by Paul Guldin and other critics. An issue that has been studied in less detail concerns the theological underpinnings of the contemporary debate over indivisibles, its historical roots, the geopolitical situation at the time, and its relation to the ultimate suppression of Cavalieri's religious order. We analyze sources from the 17th through 21st centuries to investigate such a relation.

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Summary. The paper investigates the theological underpinnings of the contemporary debate over indivisibles, its historical roots, the geopolitical situation at the time, and its relation to the ultimate suppression of Cavalieri's religious order by analyzing sources from the 17th through 21st centuries.

Significance. If the sources establish a substantive causal or influential relation rather than mere contemporaneity, the work would enrich the historiography of Cavalieri's method by integrating theological and geopolitical contexts with the mathematical objections already studied by Giusti, Andersen, and Mancosu.

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  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The description of the investigation provides no details on the specific evidence, selection criteria for the 17th–21st century sources, or the method by which conclusions about a 'relation' are drawn from the documents.
  2. [Main text] Main text (central claim): The claim that the analyzed sources establish a relation between the theological/geopolitical elements and the suppression of the order requires explicit evidence of influence (e.g., documented objections or decisions citing the mathematical controversy); if the material only records parallel events or retrospective 20th/21st-century interpretation, the connection remains associative.

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and have revised the abstract and main text to incorporate greater specificity on sources and to clarify the evidential basis for the relations discussed.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: The description of the investigation provides no details on the specific evidence, selection criteria for the 17th–21st century sources, or the method by which conclusions about a 'relation' are drawn from the documents.

    Authors: We agree that the original abstract was insufficiently detailed on these points. The revised abstract now identifies the principal 17th-century sources (Jesuit correspondence and decrees concerning the order), 18th–19th-century accounts of the suppression, and selected 20th–21st-century historiographical studies. Selection was guided by documents that mention both indivisibles and ecclesiastical or political pressures on the order; the interpretive approach is contextual cross-referencing of these texts to trace thematic and chronological overlaps, which is now stated explicitly. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Main text] Main text (central claim): The claim that the analyzed sources establish a relation between the theological/geopolitical elements and the suppression of the order requires explicit evidence of influence (e.g., documented objections or decisions citing the mathematical controversy); if the material only records parallel events or retrospective 20th/21st-century interpretation, the connection remains associative.

    Authors: The manuscript frames its contribution as an investigation of possible relations rather than a demonstration of direct causation. In the revised introduction we now distinguish explicitly between (a) passages in the sources that record contemporaneous theological objections and geopolitical events without naming the mathematical debate, and (b) any instances where a source links the two. Where only association is present we present it as such; where retrospective interpretations appear we identify them as later readings. This clarification avoids overstating the strength of the evidence while preserving the value of the contextual analysis. revision: yes

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The paper presents a historical investigation into theological, geopolitical, and institutional factors surrounding Cavalieri's indivisibles and the suppression of his order. It explicitly frames its contribution as an analysis of independent sources spanning the 17th through 21st centuries. No equations, fitted parameters, predictions, or derivations appear; the central claim is therefore not reducible by construction to any input internal to the paper. No self-citation load-bearing steps, ansatzes, or renamings of known results are identifiable from the provided text. The work is self-contained against external benchmarks in the form of the cited historical sources.

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The paper is a historical investigation relying on standard methods of source analysis in the history of mathematics. No free parameters, mathematical axioms, or invented entities are indicated in the abstract.

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