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Large induced subgraph with a given pathwidth in outerplanar graphs
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Pith's one-line read The paper pins down the size of the largest induced subgraph of bounded pathwidth in an outerplanar graph: at least $M_k n/(M_k+3)$ vertices, and at most $M_k n/(M_k+4/3)$ in a construction, with $M_k$ the largest order forcing pathwidth…
desk verdict A solid extension of Pelsmajer's induced-linear-forest theorem to higher pathwidth; the proof gap in Theorem 4 is a repairable index typo, not a structural flaw. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The controlling object is the sequence $M_k$: the largest $t$ for which every outerplanar graph with at most $t$ vertices has pathwidth at most $k$, with $M_1=2$, $M_2=5$, and $M_3 \leq 23$. The lower bound is carried by an inductive face-splitting argument that peels a component of order just above $M_k$ and uses the fact that a disconnected union of two subgraphs each of order below $M_k$ still has pathwidth at most $k$. The upper bound is carried by a deliberately assembled obstruction: three $(M_k+1)$-vertex outerplanar blocks of pathwidth at least $k+1$ sharing one central vertex $x$, so that any width-$k$ induced subgraph is forced to leave at least one vertex out of each block. The interval property of path-decompositions — that any vertex appearing in two bags appears in every bag between them — is what prevents the blocks' largest bags from overlapping with $x$'s bags beyond the allowed width.
What would settle it
For $k=2$, take the 19-vertex construction of Theorem 4 (three 6-vertex maximal outerplanar graphs of pathwidth 3 sharing a common vertex) and compute the maximum order of an induced subgraph of pathwidth at most 2 by exhaustive search. Theorem 4 predicts exactly 15; finding 16 refutes the upper bound. Separately, an exhaustive search over order-7 maximal outerplanar graphs would test the $5n/7$ lower bound.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
At the center of the paper is a pair of theorems that together bracket the extremal ratio. Theorem 2 states that for every outerplanar graph $G$ of order $n$ and every positive integer $k$, $I_k(G) \geq M_k n/(M_k+3)$, where $I_k(G)$ is the maximum order of an induced subgraph of $G$ with pathwidth at most $k$. The proof is an induction on maximal outerplanar graphs: it locates an edge whose removal leaves a component $H$ of order just above $M_k$, splits the graph into $G'$ and the two sides of a face, and combines the induction on $G'$ with the fact that the union of the two sides has pathwidth at most $k$. Theorem 3 sharpens the case $k=2$ to $I_2(G) \geq 5n/7$, using a lemma that every outerplanar graph with at most five vertices admits a width-2 path-decomposition with any prescribed vertex in an end bag. Theorem 4 gives the matching upper bound by gluing three copies of an $(M_k+1)$-vertex outerplanar graph of pathwidth at least $k+1$ at a common vertex $x$; the resulting graph has $3M_k+4$ vertices, and any induced subgraph of pathwidth at most $k$ can use at most $M_k$ vertices from each copy, giving $I_k \leq 3M_k$.
Load-bearing premise
The upper-bound proof depends on a placement claim about path-decompositions: a largest bag of one of the three blocks must not lie between the bags containing the shared vertex, because the interval property would then force a forbidden overlap; if this placement step fails, the construction's ratio is not established.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- For every positive integer $k$, every outerplanar graph of order $n$ has an induced subgraph of pathwidth at most $k$ with at least $M_k n/(M_k+3)$ vertices.
- For $k=2$ the universal guarantee is $5n/7$, improving the general formula's $5/8$ for that case.
- There exist outerplanar graphs of order $n$ where $I_k$ is at most $M_k n/(M_k+4/3)$, so the lower bound cannot be substantially improved without a new idea.
- Because $M_k$ grows with $k$, both fractions approach $1$; for large $k$ nearly all vertices of any outerplanar graph can be kept in an induced subgraph of pathwidth at most $k$.
- At $k=1$ the theorem's lower bound ($2/5$) is weaker than the known sharp bound of $4/7$ for induced linear forests, so the paper's contribution is the uniform statement for all $k$, not the smallest case.
Reading between the lines
- Beyond the paper, the two bounds suggest the true extremal ratio is $M_k/(M_k+c)$ for a constant $c$ between $4/3$ and $3$; determining $c$ is equivalent to understanding how tightly the $M_k$-vertex obstruction can concentrate around a single attachment vertex.
- Beyond the paper, the lower-bound proof's only graph-specific input is the facial splitting lemma; graph classes with an analogous face-separation property would inherit bounds of the same shape.
- Beyond the paper, the arguments are constructive enough to yield a search algorithm for the induced subgraph once $M_k$ is known, although the paper does not state or analyze running times.
- Beyond the paper, the $k=2$ gap between $5/7$ and $15/19$ can be tested by exact computation on maximal outerplanar graphs of moderate order; the extremal ratio may lie closer to $5/7$ than to the upper construction.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper studies the maximum order I_k(G) of an induced subgraph of an outerplanar graph G with pathwidth at most k. It introduces the invariant M_k, the largest t such that every outerplanar graph on at most t vertices has pathwidth at most k, and proves three main results: Theorem 2 gives the lower bound I_k(G) ≥ M_k n/(M_k+3) for every outerplanar graph of order n; Theorem 3 improves this to 5n/7 for k=2; and Theorem 4 constructs, for each admissible k, an outerplanar graph H with I_k(H) ≤ M_k n/(M_k+4/3). The proofs are inductive and use path decompositions and the outerplanar structure. The paper also discusses the relation to Pelsmajer's induced linear forest theorem and conjectures for planar graphs.
Significance. If the stated results hold, the paper provides the first general bounds for induced subgraphs of bounded pathwidth in outerplanar graphs, extending Pelsmajer's result on induced linear forests. The lower-bound proof is elementary and parameter-free, and the upper-bound construction is explicit and nearly matches the lower bound, leaving only a constant 4/3 additive gap in the denominator. The improvement for k=2 to 5/7 is concrete and new. The manuscript does not include machine-checked proofs or code, but the arguments are standard induction arguments that are likely correct once the misstatement in the final step of Theorem 4 is repaired. The results should be of interest to researchers working on induced subgraph problems and graph structure theory.
major comments (2)
- [§3, Proof of Theorem 4, final paragraph] The final contradiction is misstated. The sentence 'Therefore, B_i must contain a vertex of V(F_i)∪{x}, a contradiction' is trivially true because B_i is a subset of V(F_i) by construction, so it does not contradict anything. The intended argument is that the original bag B^p_i, which lies between B^p_j and X^p_j, contains a vertex of the path L⊆V(F_j)∪{x}; since i≠j and |B_i|=k+1, the bag B^p_i would then contain at least k+2 vertices, contradicting the width of P. The same correction applies to the earlier phrase 'contradicts that x∉B_i', which should instead contradict the width bound |B^p_i|≤k+1. Theorem 4 depends on this step, so the proof must be repaired.
- [§3, Proof of Theorem 3] The induction proof has no explicit base case for small n. The argument begins by choosing an edge ab such that G−{a,b} has a component H of order at least 5; for n≤8 such an H need not exist. Additionally, in the case |V(H)|=5 the induction hypothesis is applied to G' of order n−7, which can be below the theorem's stated range n≥3. The bound is likely trivially true for small n, but the proof should either verify n≤8 directly or explicitly state that the induction hypothesis is vacuously satisfied when the remaining graph has fewer than three vertices.
minor comments (5)
- [§3, Proof of Theorem 2] The notation G−ab (and later G−ac, G−bc) is ambiguous; from context it must mean vertex deletion G−{a,b}, not edge deletion. Please define this shorthand, since the phrase 'component H in G−ab' and the subsequent use of V(H)∪{a,b} are otherwise inconsistent.
- [§3, Proof of Theorem 3] In the displayed computation, 'I_k(G)≥5(n−7)/7+5' should be 'I_2(G)'; also 'a outerplanar graph' in the theorem statement should be 'an outerplanar graph'.
- [Introduction, Table 1] The lower-bound column for k=3 reads '≤23/26', which is an upper bound on the ratio M_3/(M_3+3) given the bound M_3≤23, not a guaranteed lower bound. Since a numerical lower bound would require a lower bound on M_3, this entry should be rephrased or accompanied by a statement such as M_3≥7.
- [§3, Claim 8] The reduction to the maximal outerplanar graph of order 5 is only sketched; please explain how the general case (all outerplanar graphs of order at most 5 with a distinguished vertex) follows from the single maximal example.
- [§3, Proof of Theorem 4] The equality 'B_i = B^p_i' should be 'B_i = B^p_i∩V(F_i)', since P_i is obtained by restricting P to V(F_i).
Circularity Check
No circularity: the bounds follow from the inductive use of the independently defined extremal parameter M_k, and no target inequality or self-citation is assumed in its own proof.
full rationale
The paper derives its claims from a fresh extremal invariant M_k = max{t : every outerplanar graph with at most t vertices has pathwidth at most k}. This invariant is defined independently of the quantities I_k(G) being bounded, and the proofs use it only in legitimate ways: base cases and decomposition components have size at most M_k, so their pathwidth is bounded by k directly from the definition of M_k, and since induced subgraphs of outerplanar graphs are outerplanar, the definition applies. In Theorem 2 and Theorem 3, the induction does not assume the target lower bound for the main graph; it applies the induction hypothesis only to a strictly smaller graph G' and uses the definition of M_k for the removed components. The algebra then establishes the desired bound from |V(H)| >= M_k + 1 or a Claim-based end-bag decomposition. Theorem 4 constructs an upper-bound example from maximal outerplanar graphs H_i with M_k + 1 vertices and pathwidth at least k + 1; the existence of such graphs follows from the maximality of M_k, not from the theorem being proved. The subsequent argument is a standard path-decomposition interval argument. The final sentence of Theorem 4, 'Therefore, B_i must contain a vertex of V(F_i)∪{x}, a contradiction,' appears to have a typo or a local gap in the index set (it should refer to the path L in V(F_j)∪{x}), but this is a correctness/exposition issue, not circularity: the step does not assume the theorem's conclusion. The references to Pelsmajer and other prior work are used for motivation and for small-case context, not as inputs to the new proofs, and the paper contains no load-bearing self-citations. Hence there is no significant circularity in the derivation chain.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption Pathwidth is monotone under edge addition and induced subgraph formation, and every outerplanar graph can be completed to a maximal outerplanar graph by adding edges.
- domain assumption For a maximal outerplanar graph G and an edge ab chosen as in the induction, there is an internal face abc such that removing a,c and b,c splits the component H into two components of order less than M_k.
- domain assumption The cited results of Bodlaender and Fomin and of Scheffler on the pathwidth of outerplane graphs and trees are correct and applicable.
- domain assumption There exists a maximal outerplanar graph on M_k + 1 vertices with pathwidth at least k+1 for every k covered by Theorem 4.
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abstract
A long-standing conjecture by Albertson and Berman in 1979 states that every planar graph of order $n$ has an induced forest with at least $\lceil \frac{n}{2} \rceil$ vertices. As a variant of this conjecture, Chappell conjectured that every planar graph of order $n$ has an induced linear forest with at least $\lceil \frac{4n}{9} \rceil$ vertices. As a partial solution to the conjecture, Pelsmajer in 2004 proved that every outerplanar graph of order $n$ has an induced linear forest with at least $\lceil \frac{4n+2}{7}\rceil$ vertices and this bound is sharp. In this paper, we investigate the order of induced subgraphs with a given pathwidth in outerplanar graphs. The above result of Pelsmajer implies that every outerplanar graph of order $n$ has an induced subgraph with pathwidth at most 1 and at least $\lceil \frac{4n+2}{7}\rceil$ vertices. We extend this to obtain a result on the maximum order of induced subgraphs with a given pathwidth in an outerplanar graph. We also give its upper bound, which generalizes Pelsmajer's construction.
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