REVIEW 3 major objections 6 minor 79 references
Relationship between prominence eruptions and coronal mass ejections during solar cycle 24
T0 review · 3 major / 6 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read Erupting prominences and CME cores are the same structure at different heights.
desk verdict Largest AIA-based PE-CME study to date confirms the standard picture, but the headline >95% fit claim lacks statistical backing and the onset-time trend is internally inconsistent. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The central object is the CME core, the bright white-light structure inside a three-part CME, and the comparison quantity is its height-time curve. The defining identity is that the CME core's height-time data and the PE leading-edge's height-time data fall on the same second-order curve, so the PE is the core at an earlier height. The supporting apparatus is the confidence-level scale (CL0-CL3) used to pair each PE with a CME, the automated PE detection program that supplies PE heights, and the LASCO CME catalog's measurement tool used to track core heights visually. The paper also uses speed comparisons and latitudinal and temporal offsets to argue that the two observations are the same structure rather than separate ejections.
What would settle it
Count how many CL3 CME-core height-time points fall off the PE leading-edge curve by more than the measurement uncertainty; if the fit holds for only a small majority rather than more than 95% of events, the claim that the core is the evolved prominence would fail.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central claim is that the CME core is the evolved form of the prominence eruption (PE) seen in the AIA field of view at lower solar heights. For CL3 events, second-order polynomial fits to the CME core height-time data align with the PE leading-edge data in more than 95% of cases, while the CME leading edge stays systematically above the core. The paper reports 1,225 PEs, of which 662 (54%) are associated with CMEs at confidence levels 1-3; among the 496 CL3 pairs, 78% of the CMEs show a clear bright core. The average speeds rise from 62 km/s for PEs to 390 km/s for CME cores and 525 km/s for CME leading edges, which the paper interprets as the same structure accelerating as it moves to greater heights. The study also finds that CMEs deflect toward the equator during the cycle-24 minimum and that PE-to-CME onset offsets are mostly within one hour, consistent with a common eruption process.
Load-bearing premise
The claim stands on the accuracy of the visually measured CME core heights and on whether the few fits shown represent the stated more-than-95% of CL3 events, since the paper does not report the full distribution of fit residuals.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- A single height-time curve connects a prominence eruption in the AIA field of view to its CME core in LASCO, so PE speeds measured near the surface underestimate the speed of the same plasma at coronal heights.
- The cycle-24 baseline of 54% overall PE-CME association and 78% bright-core occurrence among CL3 events gives a large-sample reference for modeling how often eruptions become CMEs.
- The equatorward deflection of CMEs during solar minimum implies that near-minimum CME source latitudes are systematically lower than the prominence source latitudes, which matters for source-region mapping.
- The typical one-hour offset between PE onset and CME appearance in LASCO C2, together with PE speed, gives a rough way to predict when an erupting prominence will enter the coronagraph field of view.
- The CME leading edge staying above the core throughout is consistent with flux-rope models in which the CME carries cool prominence material as an entrained structure.
Reading between the lines
- If the identity is exact, the mass lost by the prominence should appear in the CME core; combining EUV prominence mass estimates with white-light CME core masses would make that conservation testable.
- The three events where the core speed fell below the PE speed suggest that projection and deflection, not only acceleration, shape the measured speed difference; a 3-D reconstruction using STEREO data could separate those effects.
- The lower 54% association rate, compared with earlier small-sample estimates above 80%, may reflect the larger sample and the inclusion of transverse and failed eruptions; an automated matching algorithm could remove human judgment from the confidence-level assignments.
- The equatorward deflection during minima implies a systematic latitudinal bias in any PE-CME association that converts position angle to latitude; a dipolar-field correction could sharpen source-location estimates.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper presents a statistical study of 1225 prominence eruptions (PEs) detected in SDO/AIA 304 Å data from May 2010 to December 2019 (solar cycle 24), classifying them as radial, transverse, or failed, and associating them with LASCO CMEs using a four-level confidence scale (CL0–CL3). The authors report that 54% of PEs are associated with CMEs, that CMEs tend to deflect toward the equator during solar minima, that the PE–CME onset-time offset is larger at solar maximum than at minimum, and that the kinematic and morphological evidence indicates that the PE evolves into the CME core at higher altitudes. The central claim, stated in Section 3.2.3, is that the CME core is the evolved form of the PE observed in the AIA field of view.
Significance. If correct, this work provides the largest statistical sample to date linking prominence eruptions to CME cores over a full solar cycle, extending the earlier cycle-23 study of Gopalswamy et al. (2003) and offering quantitative distributions of PE speeds, latitudes, and association rates. The paper's strengths include the use of a large, publicly available catalog, the explicit comparison of cycle 24 with cycle 23, the overlay of PE positions on the HMI butterfly diagram to demonstrate the rush-to-the-poles, and the careful discussion of known counter-evidence (e.g., Howard et al. 2017). The main weakness is that the load-bearing kinematic claim of PE-to-CME-core continuity rests on a single illustrative fit and an unquantified '>95%' success rate, without aggregate fit statistics or error analysis. This weakens the paper's central conclusion but does not invalidate it; the claim is plausible and consistent with prior case studies, and the manuscript can be strengthened with additional quantitative support.
major comments (3)
- [Section 3.2.3, Figure 9(k)] The claim that "The CME core data fits very well with those of the PE leading edge for almost all (>95%) the clear cases (CL3)" is not supported by any quantitative summary. The only goodness-of-fit statistic reported is a single chi-square value of 0.9 for the one event in Figure 9, with no definition of the statistic, no residual distribution, and no aggregate values across the CL3 sample. Because this fit is the load-bearing evidence for the conclusion that PEs become CME cores, the authors should either report the fit statistics (e.g., reduced chi-square or RMS residual) for all CL3 events with clear cores, or soften the claim to a qualitative statement and clearly separate it from the quantitative association rates.
- [Section 4, Figure 9(k)] The manuscript acknowledges that "a significant gap exists between the last PE data point and the first CME core data point" (Section 4). The quadratic shown in Figure 9(k) is fit only to the CME core points, so the PE points lying near an extrapolation of that curve provide weak evidence of continuity across the unobserved AIA–LASCO FOV gap. To strengthen the continuity argument, the authors should either bridge the gap with additional observations (e.g., STEREO COR1/EUVI data) or quantify the expected overlap under a propagation model, including the uncertainty in the extrapolated curve.
- [Section 2.2, Figures 10–11] The core-height measurements are made manually with the LASCO CME catalog's "measurement" tool, and no uncertainties are reported for these heights or for the derived speeds and accelerations. The average speeds (PE 62 km/s, core 390 km/s, leading edge 525 km/s), the acceleration ranges, and the association percentages (54%, 78%) are presented without error bars, and the scatter in Figure 11 is interpreted without accounting for measurement noise. Given that the >95% fit claim depends on these manual measurements, the authors should provide at least a representative uncertainty estimate or a sensitivity analysis showing that the acceptance fraction is robust to realistic height errors.
minor comments (6)
- [Page 2 (Introduction)] "Conversly" should be "Conversely".
- [Abstract] "the prominences evolves into CME cores" should be "prominences evolve into CME cores".
- [Section 3.2.3] "The speed of CME cores are more than the speed of PEs" has subject–verb disagreement and should read "The speed of CME cores is greater than that of PEs".
- [Figure 2 caption] The bin labels in the inset are described only in the text; please clarify the axis tick labels in the caption so that the reader can interpret the histogram without referring to the body text.
- [Section 4] The reference to "paper I" should be spelled out at first use in the text (Gopalswamy et al. 2003) to avoid ambiguity for readers who have not read the earlier paper.
- [Section 3.2.3] The heading "PE and CME core" and the shorthand "PE=CME core" are informal; consider renaming the subsection to "Relationship between PEs and CME cores" for clarity.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: the PE-to-CME-core conclusion rests on independent height-time comparisons, not on fitted inputs or self-citations.
full rationale
The paper's central claim that erupting prominences (PEs) become CME cores is supported by comparing PE leading-edge heights measured in AIA 304 with CME core heights measured in LASCO. The second-order polynomial is fit to the CME core data alone, and the PE points are then checked against that curve, so the agreement is a genuine comparison of independent measurements rather than a fitted prediction. PE detection uses the published automatic catalog of Yashiro et al. (2020) with stated criteria (intensity ratio >=2, width >=15 degrees, 10-minute continuous rise), and the CME association levels are visual classifications; no parameter is fit to force the kinematic result. The '>95% fit' claim is not quantitatively documented (only one chi-square value, 0.9, is given for Fig. 9), and the paper itself flags the 'significant gap' between the AIA and LASCO FOVs in Section 4; these are rigor limitations, not circularity. Self-citations (Yashiro et al. 2020; Gopalswamy et al. 2003 as paper I) are used as data sources or as corroboration, and the same conclusion is independently cited from House et al. (1981), Sime et al. (1984), and others. No load-bearing reduction of the result to its own inputs is present.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (2)
- Minimum prominence width threshold =
15 degrees
- Intensity ratio threshold =
2.0
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption The automatic PE detection program (Yashiro et al. 2020) correctly identifies erupting prominences and measures their leading-edge height.
- domain assumption CME positions (CPA) can be converted to heliographic latitudes assuming plane-of-sky geometry.
- domain assumption The LASCO CME catalog height-time points and the manually measured CME core heights are accurate.
- domain assumption A second-order polynomial is an adequate kinematic model for PE, CME core, and CME leading edge height-time data.
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of Relationship between prominence eruptions and coronal mass ejections during solar cycle 24." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/ISXNGTRR
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read the original abstract
In this article, we present the relationship between prominence eruptions (PEs) and coronal mass ejections (CMEs) from May 2010 to December 2019 covering most of solar cycle 24. We used data from the Atmospheric Imaging Assembly (AIA) for PEs and the Large Angle and Spectrometric Coronagraph (LASCO) for CMEs. We identified 1225 PEs, with 67% being radial, 32% transverse, and 1% failed PEs. The radial, transverse PEs, and the combined set have average speeds of ~53, 9, and 38 km/s, respectively. The PE association with CMEs is examined by assigning a confidence level (CL) from 0 (no association) to 3 (clear association). Out of 1225 PEs, 662 (54%) are found to be associated to CMEs including CL 1, 2, and 3. Our study reveals that the spatial and temporal relationships between PEs and CMEs vary over the solar cycle. During solar minima, CMEs tend to deflect towards the equator, possibly due to a stronger polar field. Temporal offsets are larger during solar maxima and smaller during the minima. This implies that the PEs appear in LASCO C2 FOV earlier during the minima than during the maxima. Among the 662 CMEs associated with PEs, 78% show clear bright core structures. Investigation of the morphological and temporal behavior of these CMEs indicate that the prominences evolves into CME cores at higher altitudes suggesting that PEs and CME cores are the same structure. The average speeds of the PEs, CME core, and CME leading edge are 62, 390, and 525 km/s, respectively. The speed of CME cores are more than the speed of PEs because the former are observed at larger heights where they have accelerated to higher speeds.
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