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Effects of high-frequency and balanced motions on Lagrangian pair dispersion at the ocean surface

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Pith's one-line read Internal waves add ocean energy but do not control how drifters spread.

desk verdict A careful, honest analysis of a global simulation that cleanly shows a seasonal contrast in dispersion regimes, with a plausible but not fully tested conclusion that internal waves do not affect pair dispersion. read the letter →

arxiv 2506.01002 v1 pith:EVDQ5FGV submitted 2025-06-01 physics.flu-dyn physics.ao-ph

Michael Maalouly , Apolline Dekens , Guillaume Lapeyre , Aurélien Luigi Serge Ponte , Stefano Berti This is my paper
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keywords Lagrangianpairdispersioninternalgravitywavesbalancedmotionskineticenergyspectrumfinite-sizeLyapunovexponentsubmesoscaleturbulenceKuroshioExtensionGulfStream
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The reading

This paper asks whether the way two floating particles drift apart can be read off the ocean's kinetic-energy spectrum, as quasi-geostrophic turbulence theory predicts. Using a global simulation that resolves both meso- and submesoscale eddies and internal gravity waves, the authors find that the rule holds in winter but appears to fail in summer: the summer spectrum is shallow enough to predict local dispersion, yet particles separate in a nonlocal regime dominated by large eddies. The discrepancy dissolves when the spectrum is split into slow, nearly balanced motions and fast internal waves. The wave part dominates kinetic energy at scales below about 50 km, while the balanced part shows the steep $k^{-3}$ spectrum that nonlocal dispersion requires. The paper concludes that high-frequency internal waves barely affect relative dispersion at the resolved scales, and that the balanced, rotational flow alone controls how pairs spread.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing tool is the frequency-wavenumber kinetic-energy spectrum $E(k,\omega)$ partitioned by the linear internal-gravity-wave dispersion relation $\omega^2=f^2(L_R^2 k^2+1)$, using the 10th baroclinic mode, the highest resolved baroclinic mode in the LLC4320 simulation, with deformation radius $L_R\simeq65$ km in winter and $L_R\simeq20$ km in summer. This curve divides motions into slow, nearly balanced meso- and submesoscale motions and fast internal-wave motions; integrating each side separately yields the balanced-only and wave-only wavenumber spectra. The companion diagnostics are the finite-size Lyapunov exponent $\lambda(\delta)$, whose power-law decay signals local dispersion and whose plateau signals nonlocal dispersion, and the Helmholtz decomposition into rotational and divergent kinetic energy. Together these tools let the authors attribute the summer small-scale spectral energy to waves while showing that the balanced spectrum is steep ($k^{-3}$), reconciling the Lagrangian indicators with spectral theory.

What would settle it

Run the same Lagrangian experiments with the high-frequency wave component removed from the velocity field by zeroing all energy above the dispersion-relation curve, and compare the finite-size Lyapunov exponent to the full-field result; the paper's claim predicts identical curves down to about 4 km. Alternatively, launch pairs at initial separations well below the inertial-oscillation scale, for example 1 km, in the full field: if wave motions then change the finite-size Lyapunov exponent or produce a local dispersion scaling absent in the filtered field, the claim that internal waves do not affect dispersion fails at those scales.

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Core claim

In both the Kuroshio Extension and the Gulf Stream, winter dispersion is local, with the finite-size Lyapunov exponent decaying as a power of separation and tracking a kinetic-energy spectrum with exponent $\beta\simeq2$ to $2.4$, whereas summer dispersion is nonlocal, with an extended plateau in the Lyapunov exponent indicating strain from the largest scales, even though the measured total spectrum has $\beta\simeq2.3$, which would predict local dispersion. By forming frequency-wavenumber spectra and partitioning energy along the 10th-baroclinic-mode dispersion relation $\omega^2=f^2(L_R^2 k^2+1)$, the authors show that in summer internal waves dominate the total spectrum at scales below roughly 50 km, while the nearly balanced, mainly rotational component follows $E(k)\sim k^{-3}$. The steep balanced spectrum is exactly what predicts nonlocal dispersion, so the apparent inconsistency disappears. The paper's central claim is that high-frequency internal gravity waves do not measurably impact relative dispersion in this simulation, and that surface pair spreading is controlled by the balanced, larger-scale flow component.

Load-bearing premise

The conclusion rests on the assumption that a single wave-frequency curve cleanly sorts every motion into slow balanced eddies versus fast internal waves; if some fine-scale eddy motions are misclassified as waves, the steep balanced spectrum that explains summer dispersion disappears.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • In summer conditions like these, the total kinetic-energy spectrum is not a reliable predictor of relative dispersion; the frequency-filtered balanced spectrum is.
  • Geostrophic velocities from wide-swath altimeters such as SWOT may describe the flow component that actually controls pair dispersion, provided high-frequency wave energy is filtered out rather than aliased into the field.
  • In winter, where internal waves are weak, satellite-derived geostrophic currents should support direct Lagrangian predictions of surface dispersion.
  • The insensitivity to waves is limited to the resolved separation range; at initial separations at or below the inertial-oscillation scale, about 4.6 km, waves may still contribute, and the present experiment cannot rule that out.
  • Future missions that measure the low-frequency surface current component could fill the gap where waves dominate the energetic spectrum in summer.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A direct numerical test of the paper's hypothesis would be to advect synthetic particles in the full velocity field and in the frequency-filtered balanced field alone; the paper's claim predicts nearly identical finite-size Lyapunov exponent curves down to the smallest resolved separations.
  • The same frequency-wavenumber partition could be applied to SWOT-derived surface velocities in other regions and seasons to map where filtered spectra predict dispersion better than raw spectra, a test the paper does not perform.
  • If the claim generalizes, biologically and chemically relevant tracer spreading at scales above roughly 10 km could be estimated from balanced altimetry alone, with wave-driven dispersion confined to scales smaller than the inertial-oscillation scale.
  • The paper's null result could be sharpened by seeding pairs at separations below 1 km in a yet-higher-resolution simulation, where the inertial-oscillation and tidal scales would be resolved and wave effects would have room to appear.
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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

3 major / 5 minor

Summary. Using hourly surface velocities from the global MITgcm LLC4320 simulation, the authors advect synthetic particle triplets (initial separation R0≈3.48 km) for 30 days in February and August 2012 in the Kuroshio Extension, with a companion analysis in the Gulf Stream. They compute relative dispersion, relative diffusivity, separation kurtosis, and the FSLE, and compare the inferred dispersion regimes with the slopes of Eulerian wavenumber kinetic energy spectra. Winter results are broadly consistent with local dispersion and a β≈2 spectrum; summer results show nonlocal dispersion (flat FSLE, δ² diffusivity) despite a spectral slope β≈2.3. Using frequency-wavenumber spectra and a 10th-baroclinic-mode dispersion relation, the authors partition the flow into low-frequency balanced and high-frequency IGW components and find a summer balanced spectrum close to k^-3, which they argue resolves the discrepancy and implies that IGWs do not affect relative dispersion in these regimes.

Significance. The empirical contribution is solid: the analysis uses a state-of-the-art global simulation with tidal forcing, applies multiple independent Lagrangian diagnostics with bootstrapped uncertainties, and reproduces the main seasonal contrast in two energetic western-boundary-current regions. If the causal interpretation is accepted, the paper provides a useful framework for predicting surface dispersion from balanced, geostrophic velocities and for interpreting SWOT and ODYSEA data. The main limitation is that the central causal claim is inferential: no particle experiment with filtered wave fields is performed, and the wave-vortex partition is not independently validated. Given the acknowledged scale limitation near V/f, the paper's conclusions are somewhat stronger than the evidence directly supports.

major comments (3)
  1. [Sec. 5b, Fig. 10] The wave-vortex partition is the load-bearing step for the summer interpretation, but it is not validated for the regions and seasons studied. The partition is obtained by integrating E(k,ω) on either side of the dispersion curve ω² = f²(L_R² k² + 1) for the 10th baroclinic mode, with L_R = 65 km (winter) and 20 km (summer). In the presence of strong mean flows, Doppler shifting, and a continuum of vertical modes, a single linear dispersion curve can misclassify ageostrophic submesoscale motions as waves or, conversely, label wave energy as balanced. If the k^-3 summer spectrum of the low-frequency component is partly an artifact of this choice, the agreement with the flat FSLE would be coincidental. Please provide sensitivity tests over a plausible range of L_R and vertical mode number, or an independent validation of the partition, before the causal claim is accepted.
  2. [Sec. 5c and Sec. 7] The paper's title and abstract assert that high-frequency IGWs do not impact relative dispersion, but the evidence is spectral consistency, not a controlled Lagrangian experiment. A direct test is feasible: advect the same particle set in a velocity field from which the high-frequency component (ω² > f²(L_R² k² + 1)) has been removed, and compare the resulting FSLE and relative diffusivity with Figs. 5 and 7. Without such a test, the possibility remains that IGWs contribute to dispersion in a way that is masked by the dominant balanced strain, or that the two components interact nonlinearly. I consider this experiment, or an equivalently strong causal identification strategy, necessary to support the stated conclusion.
  3. [Sec. 7, inertial-oscillation paragraph] The authors explicitly note that the inertial-oscillation scale V/f ≈ 4.59 km is close to the smallest FSLE separation (δ ≈ 4.17 km) and that resolving smaller scales would require higher-resolution simulations. This is an acknowledged blind spot: any wave influence on relative dispersion at scales near or below the inertial scale is not sampled. Consequently, the conclusion 'No evidence of an impact of internal waves on pair dispersion was found' is only valid for separations larger than roughly 4 km and should be qualified accordingly in the abstract and conclusions.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Sec. 3, Fig. 3] The winter spectral slope is reported as β≈2 with a fit-range-dependent range 5/3≲β≲2.4; later the winter FSLE exponent γ=0.29 is converted to β≈2.4 and called compatible with the upper bound. The paragraph would be more transparent if it stated that the winter agreement relies on the upper end of the spectral-slope uncertainty.
  2. [Sec. 2] The phrase 'integrated using a fourth-order Runge-Kutta method and TRACMASS in space' mixes time integration and trajectory scheme; please clarify whether TRACMASS is used for spatial interpolation and cite the appropriate interpolation method.
  3. [Sec. 5a, Fig. 8] Please define the Lagrangian kinetic energy spectrum E(ω) and its normalization; the axis label E(t) [m²/s] appears inconsistent with a frequency-domain quantity.
  4. [Sec. 3] There is a typo, 'a wealth a smaller eddies', which should read 'a wealth of smaller eddies'.
  5. [Figs. 10 and 14] The filtered spectra are shown without uncertainty shading, whereas the total spectra and Lagrangian diagnostics have bootstrap intervals; since the k^-3 slope of the low-frequency component is central, please add uncertainty estimates for the filtered components.

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No significant circularity: Lagrangian diagnostics and Eulerian spectral slopes are measured independently, the wave-vortex partition is fixed before the Lagrangian comparison and follows external methodology, and the central claim is a consistency inference rather than a derivation from its own inputs.

full rationale

The paper's derivation chain is not circular. The Lagrangian diagnostics (summer FSLE plateau, winter FSLE δ^-0.29, K_rel ~ δ^2, kurtosis growth) and the Eulerian spectral slopes (β ≈ 2 in winter, β ≈ 2.3 in summer, and the partitioned balanced k^-3 slope) are computed independently from different data products — particle advection statistics versus space-time Fourier spectra of the LLC4320 velocity field — and are compared only afterward; neither quantity is fitted to the other. The dimensional bridging relations (λ(δ) ~ δ^(β-3)/2, nonlocal dispersion for β > 3, local t^{4/(3-β)} growth for 1 < β < 3) are standard results cited to Babiano et al. (1990) and LaCasce (2008), with Foussard et al. (2017) — which includes two of the present co-authors — only among several corroborating references; the argument does not depend on that self-citation, so it is not load-bearing. The wave-vortex partition uses the 10th-baroclinic-mode dispersion relation ω² = f²(L_R²k² + 1) from Sutherland (2010) and the methodology of Torres et al. (2018, 2022), external to the present authors, with L_R = 65 km (winter) and 20 km (summer) fixed before any comparison with the Lagrangian results; the resulting k^-3 balanced spectrum is therefore not constructed to match the FSLE plateau. The conclusion that IGWs 'do not impact relative dispersion' is an inference to the best explanation from spectral consistency, and no equation in the paper reduces to its own input by construction. The self-declared caveats — that the inertial-oscillation scale V/f ≈ 4.59 km nearly equals the smallest FSLE separation (δ ≈ 4.17 km) in August, and that the linear single-mode partition may be imperfect where IGWs and high-frequency submesoscales share similar frequencies — locate the weakness in the empirical support for the causal claim, which is a test-robustness and correctness risk, not a circularity of the derivation.

Assumptions & free parameters 4 free parameters · 3 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The analysis does not introduce new physical entities. It leans on empirically fitted spectral slopes and on a wave-vortex partition whose boundary is set by the 10th-baroclinic-mode dispersion relation with season-dependent deformation radii. These are the main inputs a reader must accept to trust the conclusion, along with the standard dimensional theory linking spectra to dispersion regimes.

free parameters (4)
  • Winter Kuroshio spectral slope beta = approximately 2, with fit-range variation from 5/3 to 2.4
    Fitted to the February kinetic energy spectrum over the 10 to 100 km range in Fig. 3; used to predict local dispersion scaling.
  • Summer Kuroshio spectral slope beta = approximately 2.3
    Fitted to the August kinetic energy spectrum; used to predict local dispersion, which is contradicted by the observed nonlocal FSLE.
  • Gulf Stream spectral slope beta = approximately 2.4 in both seasons
    Fitted to the Gulf Stream spectra in Fig. 12; used for the FSLE prediction delta^-0.3 that matches the observed winter exponent.
  • Deformation radii L_R = 65 km in winter, 20 km in summer
    Used in the IGW dispersion relation omega^2 = f^2(L_R^2 k^2 + 1) to partition balanced motions from internal waves in Sec. 5b; these region- and season-specific values set the wave-vortex boundary.
assumptions (3)
  • domain assumption Dimensional bridging relations connect the Eulerian spectral slope beta to Lagrangian dispersion regimes, including Richardson t^3 scaling, local FSLE scaling delta^((beta-3)/2), and nonlocal constant FSLE.
    Invoked in Sec. 4 and Sec. 5; standard in quasi-geostrophic turbulence theory, but the relations assume homogeneous, isotropic, two-dimensional turbulence, which is only approximately true in frontal and eddying ocean regions.
  • ad hoc to paper The dispersion relation omega^2 = f^2(L_R^2 k^2 + 1) with the 10th baroclinic mode separates internal gravity waves from balanced motions.
    Sec. 5b: the choice of the 10th vertical mode and the specific L_R values is justified by the simulation's vertical resolution, not by an independent validation of the partition in these two regions.
  • domain assumption LLC4320 surface velocities adequately resolve the submesoscale and internal-wave motions relevant to pair dispersion at scales of 4 km and above.
    The model is used as a realistic ocean, but numerical diffusivity is acknowledged to smooth scales near the grid spacing, and the inertial-oscillation scale is close to the initial pair separation (Sec. 7).

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We investigate the properties of relative dispersion of Lagrangian particles in a global-ocean simulation resolving both inertia-gravity waves (IGW) and meso and submesoscale (M/SM) turbulence. More specifically, we test if the dispersion laws depend on the shape of the Eulerian kinetic energy spectrum, as predicted from quasi-geostrophic turbulence theory. To this end, we focus on two areas, in the Kuroshio Extension and in the Gulf Stream, for which the relative importance of IGW compared to M/SM vary in summer and winter. In winter, Lagrangian statistical indicators return a picture in overall agreement with the shape of the kinetic energy spectrum. Conversely, in summer, when submesoscales are less energetic and higher-frequency internal waves gain importance, the expected relations between dispersion properties and spectra do not seem to hold. This apparent discrepancy is explained by decomposing the flow into nearly-balanced motions and internal gravity waves, and showing that the latter dominate the kinetic energy spectrum at small scales. Our results are consistent with the hypothesis that high-frequency IGWs do not impact relative dispersion, which is then controlled by the nearly-balanced, mainly rotational, flow component at larger scales. These results highlight that geostrophic velocities derived from wide-swath altimeters, such as SWOT, may present limits when estimating surface dispersion, and that current measuring satellite missions may provide the complementary information to do so.

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