Three integers arising from B\'{e}zout's identity and resultants of integer polynomials
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Three integers from Bézout's identity and resultants of coprime integer polynomials satisfy new divisibility relations.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We study three integers arising naturally from Bézout's identity, the resultant and the reduced resultant of two coprime integer polynomials. We establish several new divisibility relations among them. We also pose two conjectures by making computations.
What carries the argument
The three integers generated from the Bézout coefficients, the resultant, and the reduced resultant of a pair of coprime integer polynomials, shown to obey new divisibility conditions.
If this is right
- The new divisibility relations hold for every pair of coprime integer polynomials.
- The relations directly tie the Bézout coefficients to the magnitude of the resultant.
- Computational checks support two further conjectured divisibility statements.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The relations may yield sharper bounds on the coefficients needed for integer linear combinations of polynomials.
- They could connect to height estimates in Diophantine problems involving polynomial equations.
Load-bearing premise
The two polynomials are coprime over the integers so that Bézout coefficients exist and both the resultant and reduced resultant are nonzero.
What would settle it
Explicit computation of the three integers for a concrete pair of coprime integer polynomials that violates one of the claimed divisibility relations.
read the original abstract
In this paper, we study three integers arising naturally from B\'{e}zout's identity, the resultant and the reduced resultant of two coprime integer polynomials. We establish several new divisibility relations among them. We also pose two conjectures by making computations.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper defines three integers derived from Bézout coefficients of coprime integer polynomials f and g, together with the resultant and reduced resultant of f and g. It claims to prove several new divisibility relations among these three integers and poses two conjectures supported by computational examples.
Significance. If the three integers can be shown to be canonically defined and the divisibility relations hold independently of auxiliary choices, the results would add concrete arithmetic information about resultants and Bézout coefficients over Z, which could be useful in computational algebraic number theory and Diophantine problems.
major comments (2)
- [§2] §2 (definition of the three integers): Bézout’s identity supplies a and b with af + bg = 1, but any a + kg, b − kf also works. The manuscript does not state a canonical choice (e.g., minimal-degree representatives or the output of the extended Euclidean algorithm with degree bounds). Without such a convention the three integers are not unambiguously determined, so the claimed divisibility relations are not yet shown to be independent of this choice.
- [§3] §3 (proofs of the divisibility relations): The central claims rest on relations involving the resultant Res(f,g), the reduced resultant, and quantities extracted from the Bézout coefficients. No explicit proof sketches, intermediate lemmas, or verification that the relations survive the non-uniqueness of a and b are supplied, leaving the soundness of the main theorems unverifiable from the given information.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] The abstract states that relations are “established” while the body relies on computations for the conjectures; a brief sentence clarifying which statements are proved and which are conjectural would improve readability.
- [§1] Notation for the reduced resultant is introduced without an explicit formula or reference; adding the definition or a standard citation would help readers unfamiliar with the term.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and valuable comments on our manuscript. The points raised about the canonical definition of the three integers and the completeness of the proofs are well taken. We will revise the manuscript to explicitly specify the choice of Bézout coefficients and to expand the proofs with additional details, lemmas, and verification steps.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [§2] §2 (definition of the three integers): Bézout’s identity supplies a and b with af + bg = 1, but any a + kg, b − kf also works. The manuscript does not state a canonical choice (e.g., minimal-degree representatives or the output of the extended Euclidean algorithm with degree bounds). Without such a convention the three integers are not unambiguously determined, so the claimed divisibility relations are not yet shown to be independent of this choice.
Authors: We agree that Bézout coefficients are not unique in general. In the manuscript the three integers are extracted using the specific coefficients returned by the extended Euclidean algorithm, which produces the unique pair satisfying the degree bounds deg(a) < deg(g) and deg(b) < deg(f). We will add an explicit statement of this canonical convention at the beginning of §2 so that the definitions become unambiguous and the subsequent divisibility relations are shown to be independent of auxiliary choices. revision: yes
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Referee: [§3] §3 (proofs of the divisibility relations): The central claims rest on relations involving the resultant Res(f,g), the reduced resultant, and quantities extracted from the Bézout coefficients. No explicit proof sketches, intermediate lemmas, or verification that the relations survive the non-uniqueness of a and b are supplied, leaving the soundness of the main theorems unverifiable from the given information.
Authors: We acknowledge that the proofs in §3 are concise and would benefit from greater detail. In the revised version we will insert explicit proof sketches, introduce one or two intermediate lemmas that isolate the dependence on the resultant and reduced resultant, and verify directly that the claimed divisibility relations remain valid once the canonical (degree-bounded) choice of coefficients is fixed. These additions will make the soundness of the main theorems fully verifiable from the text. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: relations derived from standard Bézout and resultant identities
full rationale
The paper defines three integers via Bézout coefficients, the resultant, and reduced resultant for coprime integer polynomials, then proves divisibility relations among them using algebraic properties of these objects. No step reduces a claimed result to a fitted parameter, self-referential definition, or load-bearing self-citation; the derivations rest on classical commutative algebra without importing uniqueness theorems or ansatzes from prior author work. Conjectures are explicitly computational and not asserted as proven. The derivation chain is self-contained against external benchmarks.
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We study three quantities arising naturally from Bézout’s identity, the resultant and the reduced resultant of two non-zero coprime integer polynomials. We establish several new divisibility relations among them.
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- uses
- The paper appears to rely on the theorem as machinery.
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