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On a novel probabilistic Sampling Kantorovich operators and their application
T0 review · 3 major / 6 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read Noisy samples can still converge to the true function
desk verdict The main theorem is false as stated: the proof needs ε→0 in L1, which is neither assumed nor implied, and the 'novel' operator is just the classical SK operator applied to noisy inputs. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The central object is the PSK operator $P_n^\beth(f)=S_n(f+\varepsilon^\beth)$, where $S_n$ is the classical sampling Kantorovich operator that averages $f$ over small cells $D_n^a=\prod_j[a_j/n,(a_j+1)/n]$ and convolves with a kernel $\xi$ satisfying unit-sum, boundedness, and decay conditions. The identity that carries the proof is linearity, $P_n^\beth(f)=S_n(f)+S_n(\varepsilon^\beth)$, which separates deterministic approximation from the transported noise. The boundedness lemma $\|S_n(g)\|_{L^1}\le \|\xi\|_{L^1}\|g\|_{L^1}$, valid for all $n$, is what lets the expectation of the noise term be controlled and the final convergence be asserted.
What would settle it
Take $f=0$ and let the noise be a fixed, non-random function, say $\varepsilon^\beth(x)=1$ on $[0,1]$ and $0$ elsewhere. Then the boundedness and uniform-integrability hypotheses hold, yet the classical convergence theorem gives $S_n(\varepsilon^\beth)\to\varepsilon^\beth$ in $L^1$, so the expected error tends to $\|\varepsilon^\beth\|_{L^1}=1$ rather than $0$.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
Stated in the paper's own terms, the core claim is Theorem 2: for $f\in L^1(\mathbb{R}^q)$ and a noise process $\varepsilon^\beth$ with $\sup_\beth\int_{\mathbb{R}^q}|\varepsilon^\beth(x)|\,dx<\infty$, the PSK operator satisfies $\mathbb{E}[\|P_n^\beth(f)-f\|_{L^1}]\to0$ as $n\to\infty$ under an assumption of uniform integrability. The proof decomposes the operator as $P_n^\beth(f)=S_n(f)+S_n(\varepsilon^\beth)$, applies the classical convergence theorem to $S_n(f)$, and uses the boundedness lemma $\|S_n(g)\|_{L^1}\le L\|g\|_{L^1}$ to handle the transported noise. The theorem's stated hypotheses are boundedness and uniform integrability; the proof's final paragraph notes that concluding the noise term vanishes may need the additional condition $\varepsilon^\beth\to0$ in $L^1$.
Load-bearing premise
The proof relies on the transported noise term shrinking to zero on average, which only follows if the original noise itself is shrinking in size on average, a condition the theorem does not state.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- When the hypotheses of Theorem 2 hold, noisy measurements can be used for approximation: increasing the sampling density drives the expected total reconstruction error to zero.
- The expected error is controlled by the classical approximation error plus the expected noise level, so the rate at which noise decays in $L^1$ determines how fast the probabilistic reconstruction becomes accurate.
- The operator is uniformly stable under sampling: $\mathbb{E}[\|P_n^\beth(f)\|_{L^1}]$ stays bounded by a constant times the sum of the signal size and the expected noise size, independently of $n$.
- In image experiments, the paper's reported metrics indicate that PSK operators keep expected PSNR and SSIM relatively stable across window sizes, while classical operators have better metrics only in ideal noiseless conditions.
Reading between the lines
- The paper's Theorem 2 as written is missing an explicit noise-decay assumption: if $\varepsilon^\beth$ is fixed and nonzero, the expected error cannot converge to zero, so a corrected statement should either require $\varepsilon^\beth\to0$ in $L^1$ or aim for the noisy signal $f+\varepsilon^\beth$ as the target.
- Because the bound is linear, one could lift the qualitative theorem to a rate estimate: if the classical operator converges at a known rate and $\mathbb{E}[\|\varepsilon^\beth\|_{L^1}]$ decays at a known rate, the same proof gives a rate for $\mathbb{E}[\|P_n^\beth(f)-f\|_{L^1}]$.
- The numerical section compares expected values of nonlinear image metrics; an untested extension would be to check whether optimizing the kernel or window size under expected SSIM, rather than classical SSIM, changes the reconstructed image.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces 'probabilistic Sampling Kantorovich operators' (PSK operators), defined by applying classical sampling Kantorovich operators to noisy measurements f^ℶ(x) = f(x) + ε^ℶ(x), where ε^ℶ is a random perturbation. The main theoretical result is Theorem 2 in Section 3.1, which asserts that, under a uniform L1-boundedness condition on the noise and an unspecified uniform integrability assumption, E‖P_n^ℶ(f) − f‖_{L1} → 0 as n → ∞. The paper also presents numerical experiments on the function e^{-x^2} and the cameraman image, comparing classical and probabilistic operators via L1 error, expected PSNR, SSIM, and MAE.
Significance. If Theorem 2 were correct, the paper would provide a stochastic analogue of the classical convergence theorem for sampling Kantorovich operators, potentially of interest for signal and image processing under noisy measurements. The paper also gives a comparison of classical and probabilistic operators in image quality metrics, which could be useful in practice. However, the central convergence claim is false as stated, and therefore the theoretical contribution collapses. The numerical experiments, while illustrating the behavior of the operators, cannot compensate for the flawed theorem. The paper does not provide machine-checked proofs or reproducible code, and its formal framework is too imprecise to support the claimed novelty.
major comments (3)
- [Section 3.1, Theorem 2] Theorem 2 is false as stated. By linearity, P_n^ℶ(f) = S_n(f) + S_n(ε^ℶ). Since ε^ℶ ∈ L1, the classical convergence theorem for SK operators gives S_n(ε^ℶ) → ε^ℶ in L1, so E‖S_n(ε^ℶ)‖_{L1} → E‖ε^ℶ‖_{L1}, which is not zero unless ε^ℶ = 0 in L1. The proof explicitly acknowledges this by saying 'possibly additional assumptions (particularly ε^ℶ → 0 in L1)' are needed; that condition is absent from the theorem's hypotheses and is effectively equivalent to the desired conclusion. Thus the stated assumptions do not imply the claimed convergence.
- [Section 4, Example 1, Table 1] The numerical results are consistent with the flaw in Theorem 2. With fixed Gaussian noise of standard deviation 0.02, the probabilistic L1 errors are 0.091, 0.048, 0.027, and 0.018 for n = 5, 15, 25, and 35, respectively. Rather than converging to zero, the errors appear to level off near the noise magnitude, which is exactly what one would expect when S_n(ε^ℶ) → ε^ℶ and ε^ℶ is a nonzero fixed noise field. The table therefore does not provide empirical support for the theorem.
- [Section 3.1, Lemma 2] Lemma 2 is a boundedness result and is essentially correct, but its proof uses the assumption sup_ℶ ∫|ε^ℶ| < ∞, where ℶ denotes the sample space. This notation is ambiguous: ε^ℶ is a random field, so the supremum should be taken over realizations or over the probability space. More importantly, Lemma 2 only gives a bound in terms of E‖ε^ℶ‖_{L1}; it does not provide any mechanism for that term to vanish, and no condition in the paper ensures E‖ε^ℶ‖_{L1} → 0. Thus the lemma cannot serve as a step toward Theorem 2 as stated.
minor comments (6)
- [Section 3.1, Lemma 1 proof] The substitution step contains a typo: after setting w = nx − k, the displayed computation reads '1/nw ∥ξ∥L1'; it should be n^{-q}∥ξ∥_{L1}. The subsequent conclusion is correct, but the notation is garbled.
- [Throughout] The sampling cells are denoted inconsistently as D_n^a, R_n^k, and R_n^a. These notations should be unified and defined precisely in one place.
- [Section 3.1, Theorem 2] The theorem statement uses R^d in the supremum condition while the rest of the paper works on R^q; these should be consistent.
- [Algorithm 1 and Example 1] The noise level is not specified consistently: Algorithm 1 uses a Gaussian with std = 0.02, while Example 1 writes ε_k ∼ N(0, τ²) without assigning a value to τ. This makes the numerical experiments hard to reproduce.
- [Table 3] The last column header 'Var(|Sn(f) − f|)' in the table for PSK operators is misleading; it should refer to the variance of the error for the probabilistic operator P_n^ℶ(f), not for the classical Sn(f).
- [Overall presentation] There are numerous typographical and grammatical errors, including 'cordiality' for 'cardinality', 'Preciously' for 'Precisely', and 'receptively' for 'respectively'. A thorough editing pass is needed.
Circularity Check
Theorem 2's proof assumes the noise vanishes in L1, making the claimed convergence equivalent to an unstated assumption.
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self definitional
[Section 3.1, Theorem 2 proof]
"Eventually, by the assumption of uniform integrability and possibly additional assumptions (particularly εℶ → 0 in L1), we can conclude: lim n→∞ E [∥Pn(εℶ)∥L1] = 0."
The proof splits the error as E∥P_n^ℶ(f)−f∥ ≤ ∥S_n(f)−f∥ + E∥S_n(ε^ℶ)∥. The first term vanishes by the classical SK theorem. For the second term, the classical theorem gives S_n(ε^ℶ) → ε^ℶ in L1, so E∥S_n(ε^ℶ)∥ → E∥ε^ℶ∥. Thus the desired limit E∥S_n(ε^ℶ)∥ → 0 is equivalent to ε^ℶ → 0 in L1. The proof inserts exactly that condition as a parenthetical 'additional assumption,' but it is absent from Theorem 2's hypotheses (which only assume sup_ℶ ∫|ε^ℶ| < ∞ and uniform integrability, neither of which forces the L1 norm to zero). Consequently the proof is assuming the very convergence it claims to establish, rather than deriving it from the stated hypotheses.
full rationale
The central theoretical claim is Theorem 2, and its proof is circular at the final step: the noise term E∥S_n(ε^ℶ)∥ is asserted to tend to 0 by 'possibly additional assumptions (particularly ε^ℶ → 0 in L1)', but that condition is exactly what the theorem's conclusion requires in the case f=0, and it is not implied by the stated hypotheses of uniform integrability and bounded L1 norm. This is an internal admission in the paper itself, not an external critique. The earlier lemmas (Lemma 1, Lemma 2) are independent and not circular; they are boundedness estimates. The numerical and image-processing sections are empirical comparisons and do not depend on Theorem 2's validity, so they do not introduce additional circularity. However, because the proof of the main theorem reduces, by construction, to assuming ε^ℶ → 0 in L1, the central theoretical derivation is significantly circular. A score of 6 reflects one load-bearing step that reduces the claimed convergence to an unstated form of the conclusion, while the rest of the paper retains independent empirical content.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (1)
- Gaussian noise standard deviation =
0.02 (variance 0.0004)
assumptions (4)
- standard math Classical SK operators satisfy ||S_n(f)-f||_{L1}->0 for f in L1 (Bardaro et al. [17]).
- domain assumption The kernel ξ satisfies unit summation, boundedness, and the decay estimate |ξ(x)| ≤ L(1+||x||)^{-q-δ}.
- domain assumption The noise process ε^ℶ is uniformly integrable and sup_ℶ ||ε^ℶ||_{L1} < ∞.
- ad hoc to paper ε^ℶ → 0 in L1 (hidden vanishing-noise assumption).
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read the original abstract
This article starts with the fundamental theory of stochastic type convergence and the significance of uniform integrability in the context of expectation value. A novel probabilistic sampling kantorovich (PSK-operators) is established with the help of classical sampling operators (SK-operators). We establish the proof of the fundamental theorem of approximation and a lemma corresponding to the PSK- operators. Moreover, some examples are illustrated not only in numerical form but also in a detailed study of some important features of an image at different samples. Eventually, a comparative analysis is made on the basis of some parameters like peak signal noise ratio (PSNR), structural similarity index (SSIM) etc. between the classical and probabilistic sense in tabulated form, which connects the whole dots of the theory present in the article.
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