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On the complexity of upper frequently hypercyclic vectors

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Pith's one-line read Upper frequently hypercyclic vector sets are always Gδσ, and can fail to be Fσδ.

desk verdict Real result with two fixable gaps in the lower-bound proof: the Gδσ upper bound is clean, the negative answer to Bonilla–Grosse-Erdmann is credible, but Theorem 3.6 needs a corrected density argument before the paper is publishable as is. read the letter →

arxiv 2506.22341 v1 pith:CAU32FEO submitted 2025-06-27 math.FA math.CAmath.DSmath.GN

classification math.FAmath.CAmath.DSmath.GN MSC 37B2047A1611B0537B99
keywords upperfrequentlyhypercyclicvectorshypercyclicityanalyticP-idealsGδσsetsBorelcomplexityweightedbackwardshiftsasymptoticdensityproducttopology
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The paper settles the descriptive complexity of the set of vectors whose orbit under a continuous linear operator visits every nonempty open set with positive upper density, the upper frequently hypercyclic vectors. On a second countable topological vector space, for every analytic P-ideal of 'small' subsets of the integers, the ideal-hypercyclic set is always a Gδσ-set, improving the previously known Gδσδ bound. The paper then shows this bound is best possible in a strong sense: there exists a weighted backward shift on ℓp with the product topology for which the upper frequently hypercyclic set is not even an Fσδ-set, hence not Gδ. That answers in the negative a 2018 open question asking whether the set is always Gδ. The paper also proves that for countably generated ideals, norm, weak, and pointwise ideal hypercyclicity coincide for weighted shifts, while for the ideal of density-zero sets the pointwise and norm versions of upper frequent hypercyclicity genuinely differ.

What carries the argument

The engine is a descriptive-set-theoretic transfer along the map from a point x to its return-time set S(U) = {n : Tnx ∈ U}. The upper-bound half uses the characterization of analytic P-ideals as Exh(φ), the family of sets whose φ-mass at infinity is zero, for a lower semicontinuous submeasure φ; together with a general theorem saying that when the forbidden family F of return-time sets belongs to the modified Borel class Π̂03, the set of points whose return sets avoid F is Gδσ. The lower-bound half is a concrete continuous reduction f : Δ → X from a closed subset Δ of the Baire space: f interleaves long zero blocks with blocks of a pointwise frequently hypercyclic vector y, rescaled so that iterates of f(x) reproduce exactly the iterates of y at selected times. This makes the set f−1[UFHC(Bw)] equal to D = Δ \ C3, a known Gδσ-but-not-Fσδ set, so UFHC itself cannot be Fσδ.

What would settle it

Read the displayed chain in Claim 4 and test whether the step writing a limsup of a product as d⋆(Si) times a liminf of the ratios is valid; if a counterexample to that inequality exists, the proof of Theorem 2.1 is incomplete as written and the theorem needs a corrected estimate, while the claim itself would be falsified if some weighted shift satisfying (2.1) on ℓp with the product topology had a UFHC set that is Fσδ.

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Core claim

The paper's central claim is twofold. First, Theorem 1.2: for every continuous linear operator T on a second countable topological vector space and every analytic P-ideal I, the set HCT(I) of I-hypercyclic vectors is a Gδσ-set; in particular, the set UFHC(T) of upper frequently hypercyclic vectors is Gδσ. Second, Theorem 2.1: there exists a unilateral weighted backward shift on ℓp with p ≥ 1, with the product topology, under the summability condition ∑n (w0⋯wn)−p < ∞, for which UFHC(Bw) is not an Fσδ-set; consequently, for λ > 1 the operator λB on ℓp has UFHC(λB) not Gδ, settling the 2018 question in the negative. The proof constructs a continuous map f from a closed subset Δ of the Baire space such that f−1[UFHC(Bw)] equals a set D that is Gδσ but not Fσδ, transferring the non-complexity upward. The final results show that for countably generated ideals, norm, weak, and pointwise I-hypercyclicity coincide for weighted shifts on c0 or ℓp, and that for the ideal of density-zero sets these notions separate: a shift can be pointwise upper frequently hypercyclic and norm hypercyclic while failing to be norm upper frequently hypercyclic.

Load-bearing premise

The proof that the bad example exists depends on a cited characterization saying that a summability condition on the weight sequence makes the weighted shift frequently hypercyclic, so that a vector with all return-time sets of positive upper density exists; the manuscript also prints a density estimate in the proof that contains a false inequality, so the argument as written needs a repair to support the theorem.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • The previously known Gδσδ upper bound for analytic P-ideals is sharpened to Gδσ, and the new example shows the bound is tight in the strong sense that the set need not be Fσδ.
  • The 2018 open question of whether UFHC(T) is always Gδ is settled negatively: for λ > 1, the operator λB on ℓp with the product topology has a UFHC set that is not Gδ.
  • For weighted shifts on c0 or ℓp, ideal hypercyclicity with respect to any countably generated ideal does not depend on whether the topology is norm, weak, or product.
  • For the ideal of asymptotic density zero sets, pointwise upper frequent hypercyclicity is strictly weaker than norm upper frequent hypercyclicity in general: there is a shift that is pointwise upper frequently hypercyclic but not norm upper frequently hypercyclic.
  • The set of upper frequently hypercyclic vectors remains either empty or comeager, so the complexity increase from Gδ to Gδσ reflects a genuine structural change rather than a loss of density.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same reduction method should apply to other Furstenberg families defined by density or logarithmic density, giving matching Gδσ bounds and non-Fσδ examples wherever the relevant return-time sets form an analytic P-ideal; this is an extension the paper does not carry out.
  • The printed gap in Claim 4, if repaired as the authors indicate, is unlikely to change the theorem's conclusion, but until the inequality is corrected a careful reader should treat the proof of Theorem 2.1 as conditional.
  • The separation in Theorem 2.3 suggests that product-topology upper frequent hypercyclicity is a substantially weaker dynamical condition than its norm counterpart, which may matter for attempts to transfer frequent-hypercyclicity criteria from normed spaces to locally convex spaces.
  • The paper's remark on weakly Farah ideals points to a natural strengthening: if every Fσδ-ideal belonged to the modified class Π̂03, then the Gδσ conclusion would extend beyond the analytic P-ideal case.
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Summary. The paper studies the descriptive complexity of the set UFHC(T) of upper frequently hypercyclic vectors of a continuous linear operator T on a second countable topological vector space. The first main result, Theorem 1.2, improves the known bound from G_{δσδ} to G_{δσ} for every analytic P-ideal I, by showing that HCT(I) is G_{δσ}. The second main result, Theorem 2.1, answers negatively a question of Bonilla and Grosse-Erdmann: for certain weighted backward shifts on ℓp with the product topology, UFHC(T) is not an F_{σδ}-set, hence not G_δ. The paper also contains Theorems 2.2 and 2.3 on the (non-)equivalence of norm, weak, and pointwise I-hypercyclicity for weighted backward shifts. The proofs combine a topological reduction to hereditary subfamilies of P(ω), a descriptive-set-theoretic transfer from a known non-F_{σδ} set in Baire space, and a Bayart–Ruzsa characterization of frequently hypercyclic weighted shifts.

Significance. If the proofs are corrected, the paper makes a solid contribution. Theorem 1.2 is a clean and elegant improvement of the known upper bound, and the explicit reduction in Theorem 3.6 is an original way to transfer a descriptive-set-theoretic lower bound to UFHC(T). The negative answer to Question 1.3 is a genuine advance, and Theorems 2.2 and 2.3 address a natural and interesting comparison between topologies. The paper is generally well written, with self-contained arguments for the main upper bound and a clear strategy for the lower bound. The main reservations concern two specific proof gaps, one of which is load-bearing for Theorem 2.1; both appear to be repairable within the scope of the manuscript.

major comments (2)
  1. [3.2 (Construction step (iii) and Claim 4, pp. 9–11)] The proof of Theorem 3.6 asserts in step (iii) that one may choose m_{t+1} such that, for all m ≥ m_{t+1} and all j ∈ [0,t+1], μ_{α_t+m}(S_j \ [0,α_t)) ≥ (1−ε_{t+1}) d⋆(S_j), and it states that this is possible because d⋆(S_j) > 0. This is false as written: positive upper density is only a limsup property, so good scales need not occur eventually. However, the hypothesis of Theorem 3.6 is pointwise frequent hypercyclicity, which by Definition 3.5 gives d_*(S_j) > 0, i.e. lower density is positive. Replacing d⋆ by d_* in step (iii) and in the corresponding display in Claim 4 makes the universal condition valid and the final lower bound positive. The additional inequality in Claim 4 where β_{t−1}+(x_t+1)hat m_t is replaced by (j+2)hat m_t is not a problem: since m_t > t^2 α_{t−1}, one has β_{t−1} ≤ t α_{t−1} < hat m_t, so the inequality has the correct direction. As printed, the proof of Theorem 3.6 is incomplete, and this gap is load-bearing for Theorem 2.1.
  2. [3.3 (Proof of Theorem 2.2, p. 12)] The paragraph beginning 'Observe that ∥T∥ > 1' contains a false implication. From |(T^n y)_0| ≥ 1/2 and (T^n y)_0 = w_1···w_n y_n it is concluded that |y_n| ≥ 1/2, but this requires |w_1···w_n| ≤ 1, which is not established and is generally false when ∥T∥ > 1. For example, with w_n = 2 and y_n = 2^{−n}, one has (T^n y)_0 = 1 for all n while y ∈ ℓp. This paragraph is not needed for the rest of the proof and should be removed or replaced by a correct argument; as it stands, it invalidates the printed proof of Theorem 2.2.
minor comments (4)
  1. [3.1 (Proof of Theorem 3.2, p. 7)] In the induction step for F ∈ \hatΠ^0_3, the text says HCT(F) = ∪_j HCT(F_j) ∈ Π^0_3(X); the conclusion should be Σ^0_3(X), consistent with the statement of Theorem 3.2(ii).
  2. [3.2 (Step (i) of the construction, p. 9)] The same d⋆ versus d_* issue appears in step (i), where the condition for m_0 is written with d⋆; after the correction to d_*, the condition becomes justified by the frequent-hypercyclicity hypothesis.
  3. [3.2 (Theorem 3.7, p. 12)] The name 'Bayart and Rusza' should be 'Bayart and Ruzsa', matching the reference list.
  4. [Definition 3.5 and throughout] The notation for lower density d_* and upper density d⋆ is easy to confuse in the typeset text; using a clearly distinct symbol for the lower density would prevent the kind of slip identified in the main comments.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the new complexity bounds are derived from external characterizations (Bayart–Ruzsa, Solecki) and elementary Borel-class transfers, not from the paper's own conclusions.

full rationale

Searching the derivation chain: Theorem 1.2 is proved from Proposition 3.1/Theorem 3.2 plus the external fact that analytic P-ideals lie in the modified class Pi-hat^0_3, cited to [18] (Hrusak-Meza-Alcantara) and based on Solecki's submeasure representation [27]; the inductive identities HCT(union F_j) = intersection HCT(F_j) and HCT(intersection F_j) = union HCT(F_j) are explicit and do not presuppose the conclusion. Theorem 2.1 reduces to Theorem 3.6, whose frequent-hypercyclicity hypothesis is supplied by Theorem 3.7, quoted from Bayart-Ruzsa [5, Theorem 4]: condition (2.1) is equivalent to norm frequent hypercyclicity. This is an external, parameter-free equivalence; the example is not obtained by fitting UFHC(Bw) itself. The self-citations [22], [23], [24] are background context or standard ideal-cluster-point facts and are not load-bearing premises of the new G_delta_sigma upper bound or of the non-F_sigma_delta lower bound. No uniqueness theorem from the authors' prior work is invoked, and no known empirical result is renamed. I do flag a separate proof defect in Theorem 3.6, step (iii) and Claim 4: positive upper density is only a limsup property, so the printed universal threshold 'for all m >= m_{t+1}' is not guaranteed; the construction is incomplete as written and appears repairable by choosing m_t for the finitely many required indices j. That is an error in the proof, not a circular dependence on the theorem's conclusion. Hence circularity score 0.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 5 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The paper contains no fitted numeric parameters and no invented entities. Its constructions use explicit weight sequences and standard ideals. The proof relies on classical structural theorems: Mazur's representation of Fσ ideals, Solecki's representation of analytic P-ideals, descriptive set theory facts about C3 and ∆, and the cited Bayart-Ruzsa characterization of frequent hypercyclicity for weighted shifts. The latter is the main external load-bearing input.

assumptions (5)
  • standard math Descriptive set theory facts: C3 = {lim x_n = ∞} is Fσδ but not Gδσ; ∆ is a Polish space; continuous preimages of Fσδ sets are Fσδ.
    Used in Claim 1 and in the final transfer step of Theorem 3.6.
  • standard math Mazur's characterization of Fσ ideals: I = Fin(φ) = {S : φ(S) < ∞} for a lower semicontinuous submeasure φ, with φ(ω) = ∞ (Eq (3.1), corrected).
    Used in the proof of Theorem 2.2 to handle countably generated Fσ ideals.
  • standard math Solecki's characterization: analytic P-ideals are of the form Exh(φ) and belong to the class Π̂0_3.
    Used in the proof of Theorem 1.2 and in Remark 3.4.
  • domain assumption Bayart-Ruzsa theorem: for bounded positive weights on ℓp, frequent hypercyclicity, upper frequent hypercyclicity, and condition (2.1) are equivalent.
    Cited as Theorem 3.7; it supplies the pointwise frequently hypercyclic vector y used in Claim 4 of Theorem 3.6.
  • standard math Countably generated ideals are Fσ, admit an lscsm representation, and are Q+ ideals.
    Used in the proof of Theorem 2.2, cited from [20, 21, 12].

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abstract

Given a continuous linear operator $T:X\to X$, where $X$ is a topological vector space, let $\mathrm{UFHC}(T)$ be the set of upper frequently hypercyclic vectors, that is, the set of vectors $x \in X$ such that $\{n \in \omega: T^nx \in U\}$ has positive upper asymptotic density for all nonempty open sets $U\subseteq X$. It is known that $\mathrm{UFHC}(T)$ is a $G_{\delta\sigma\delta}$-set which is either empty or contains a dense $G_{\delta}$-set. Using a purely topological proof, we improve it by showing that $\mathrm{UFHC}(T)$ is always a $G_{\delta\sigma}$-set. Bonilla and Grosse-Erdmann asked in [Rev. Mat. Complut. \textbf{31} (2018), 673--711] whether $\mathrm{UFHC}(T)$ is always a $G_{\delta}$-set. We answer such question in the negative, by showing that there exists a continuous linear operator $T$ for which $\mathrm{UFHC}(T)$ is not a $F_{\sigma\delta}$-set (hence not $G_\delta$). In addition, we study the [non-]equivalence between (the ideal versions of) upper frequently hypercyclicity in the product topology and upper frequently hypercyclicity in the norm topology.

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