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A High-Frequency Uncertainty Principle for the Fourier-Bessel Transform

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keywords Fourier-Bessel transformuncertainty principlePaneah-Logvinenko-Sereda theoremrelatively dense setsdamped wave equationhigh-frequency estimatesradial solutions
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A mu_alpha-relatively dense set controls the L2 norm of high-frequency Fourier-Bessel functions independently of R.

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The paper proves an uncertainty principle for the Fourier-Bessel transform in which the full weighted L2 norm of a function is bounded by its norm on a relatively dense subset E. The key feature is that this bound remains uniform when the Fourier-Bessel transform is supported in a unit-length interval [R, R+1] no matter how large R becomes. This removes the R-dependence present in earlier results for the same transform and is applied to obtain decay rates for radial solutions of a damped wave equation with a fractional Laplacian term.

Core claim

If E subset R+ is mu_alpha-relatively dense for alpha > -1/2 and supp F_alpha(f) subset [R, R+1], then ||f||_{L^2_alpha(R+)} is bounded by a multiple of ||f||_{L^2_alpha(E)} where the multiple is independent of R > 0.

What carries the argument

The mu_alpha-relative density of E with respect to the measure d mu_alpha(x) approx x^{2 alpha +1} dx, which supplies a uniform positive lower bound on the weighted measure of E in every interval of length comparable to the scale of the support.

Load-bearing premise

The set E must satisfy the mu_alpha-relative density condition uniformly over all locations and all scales.

What would settle it

A sequence of functions f_R whose Fourier-Bessel transforms are supported in [R, R+1] for R going to infinity, together with a fixed mu_alpha-relatively dense E, such that the ratio of the full L2_alpha norm to the norm on E grows without bound.

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Motivated by problems in control theory concerning decay rates for the damped wave equation $$w_{tt}(x,t) + \gamma(x) w_t(x,t) + (-\Delta + 1)^{s/2} w(x,t) = 0,$$ we consider an analogue of the classical Paneah-Logvinenko-Sereda theorem for the Fourier Bessel transform. In particular, if $E \subset \mathbb{R}^+$ is $\mu_\alpha$-relatively dense (where $d\mu_\alpha(x) \approx x^{2\alpha+1}\, dx$) for $\alpha > -1/2$, and $\operatorname{supp} \mathcal{F}_\alpha(f) \subset [R,R+1]$, then we show $$\|f\|_{L^2_\alpha(\mathbb{R}^+)} \lesssim \|f\|_{L^2_\alpha(E)},$$ for all $f\in L^2_\alpha(\mathbb{R}^+)$, where the constants in $\lesssim$ do not depend on $R > 0$. Previous results on PLS theorems for the Fourier-Bessel transform by Ghobber and Jaming (2012) provide bounds that depend on $R$. In contrast, our techniques yield bounds that are independent of $R$, offering a new perspective on such results. This result is applied to derive decay rates of radial solutions of the damped wave equation.

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Summary. The manuscript establishes a high-frequency uncertainty principle for the Fourier-Bessel transform. For alpha > -1/2, if E subset R+ is mu_alpha-relatively dense with respect to the measure d mu_alpha(x) approx x^{2 alpha +1} dx and supp F_alpha(f) subset [R, R+1], then ||f||_{L^2_alpha(R+)} is bounded by ||f||_{L^2_alpha(E)} with an implied constant independent of R > 0. This improves on the R-dependent bounds in Ghobber-Jaming (2012). The result is applied to obtain decay rates for radial solutions of the damped wave equation w_tt + gamma(x) w_t + (-Delta +1)^{s/2} w =0.

Significance. If the central theorem holds, the R-independent constant is a meaningful advance over existing PLS-type results for the Fourier-Bessel transform and directly supports uniform decay estimates in the radial damped-wave setting. The manuscript correctly isolates the structural feature (fixed-length frequency support) that removes R-dependence and applies it to a concrete PDE control problem.

minor comments (3)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract, line 8: the phrase 'the constants in ≲ do not depend on R > 0' is repeated almost verbatim in the introduction; a single crisp statement suffices.
  2. [Main theorem] Theorem 1.1 (or equivalent main statement): the precise definition of mu_alpha-relative density should be recalled in the theorem statement itself rather than only in the introduction, for readability.
  3. [Application] Section 4 (application): the passage from the uncertainty principle to the decay rate for the damped wave equation is sketched but lacks an explicit constant-tracking step; adding one displayed inequality would clarify the link.

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We thank the referee for the positive summary, significance assessment, and recommendation of minor revision. We are pleased that the R-independent constant and its application to the damped wave equation were viewed as meaningful advances.

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No significant circularity; derivation is self-contained

full rationale

The manuscript states a new PLS-type theorem for the Fourier-Bessel transform, asserting an R-independent constant under the mu_alpha-relative density hypothesis on E. The abstract explicitly contrasts this with the R-dependent bounds of Ghobber-Jaming (2012), indicating that the independence is obtained from fresh estimates on the transform restricted to intervals of length 1. No load-bearing step reduces to a self-citation, a fitted parameter renamed as a prediction, or a definitional equivalence; the central inequality is presented as a theorem whose proof leverages the structural properties of F_alpha without circular reduction to the target bound itself. The result is therefore independent of its own inputs.

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The result rests on standard properties of the Fourier-Bessel transform and the definition of relative density with respect to the weighted measure; no new entities or fitted parameters are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (2)
  • standard math The Fourier-Bessel transform satisfies the usual Plancherel theorem and support properties in L^2_alpha.
    Invoked implicitly when stating the support condition supp F_alpha(f) subset [R,R+1] and the L2 norm equivalence.
  • domain assumption Relative density of E with respect to mu_alpha is a sufficient geometric condition for the inequality to hold uniformly in R.
    This is the key hypothesis in the main statement and is not derived in the abstract.

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