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arxiv: 2510.10233 · v2 · submitted 2025-10-11 · 💻 cs.CG

Rigid Invariant Sliced Wasserstein via Independent Embeddings

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classification 💻 cs.CG
keywords rigid invariancesliced Wassersteinoptimal transportGromov-Wassersteinpermutation matchingdata-adaptive basesgeometric data analysis
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The pith

RISWIE achieves rigid invariance for probability measures by matching optimal signed permutations on data-adaptive bases.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper seeks to create a distance between probability measures that stays the same under unknown rotations and reflections, a requirement in geometric data analysis where objects like cells or meshes often appear in arbitrary orientations. Standard Wasserstein and sliced Wasserstein distances change under these transformations, while fully invariant methods such as Gromov-Wasserstein and Procrustes-Wasserstein become too slow for large samples. RISWIE addresses the gap by projecting onto data-adaptive bases and then aligning axes via optimal signed permutations selected according to distributional similarity. This produces a distance with nearly linear complexity in sample size, proved bounds to Gromov-Wasserstein in special cases, and dimension-independent statistical stability, as confirmed on cellular imaging and 3D mesh tasks.

Core claim

RISWIE utilizes data-adaptive bases and matches optimal signed permutations along axes according to distributional similarity to achieve rigid invariance with nearly linear complexity in the sample size. We prove bounds relating RISWIE to GW in special cases and demonstrate dimension-independent statistical stability.

What carries the argument

Data-adaptive bases paired with optimal signed permutation matching along axes chosen by distributional similarity, which enforces invariance to rigid transformations while preserving projection-based efficiency.

If this is right

  • RISWIE attains nearly linear complexity in the sample size.
  • Statistical stability holds independently of dimension.
  • RISWIE is bounded relative to Gromov-Wasserstein in special cases.
  • RISWIE outperforms GW and PW in clustering and discriminative tasks on cellular imaging and 3D human meshes while reducing runtime.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The axis-permutation strategy could generalize to other finite symmetry groups if distributional similarity can be redefined accordingly.
  • Real-time registration of large point clouds in robotics may become feasible once the method is implemented in standard libraries.

Load-bearing premise

Matching optimal signed permutations along axes according to distributional similarity on data-adaptive bases is sufficient to produce true rigid invariance without additional alignment steps or post-hoc adjustments.

What would settle it

A counterexample consisting of two point clouds related by a rigid transformation where the axis distributional similarities cause the signed permutation step to select an incorrect matching that fails to recover the true alignment.

read the original abstract

Comparing probability measures modulo unknown rigid transformations is a central challenge in geometric data analysis. Classical optimal transport (OT) distances, including Wasserstein and sliced Wasserstein, are sensitive to rotations and reflections, whereas Gromov-Wasserstein (GW) and Procrustes-Wasserstein (PW) distances are invariant to isometries but computationally prohibitive for large datasets. We introduce Rigid-Invariant Sliced Wasserstein via Independent Embeddings (RISWIE), a scalable distance that combines the invariance of NP-hard approaches with the efficiency of projection-based OT. RISWIE utilizes data-adaptive bases and matches optimal signed permutations along axes according to distributional similarity to achieve rigid invariance with nearly linear complexity in the sample size. We prove bounds relating RISWIE to GW in special cases and demonstrate dimension-independent statistical stability. Our experiments on cellular imaging and 3D human meshes demonstrate that RISWIE outperforms GW and PW in clustering tasks and discriminative capability while significantly reducing runtime.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript introduces Rigid Invariant Sliced Wasserstein via Independent Embeddings (RISWIE), a distance between probability measures that is claimed to be invariant under rigid transformations. It constructs the distance using data-adaptive bases followed by optimal signed-permutation matching along axes chosen according to distributional similarity, yielding nearly linear complexity in sample size. The authors state that they prove bounds relating RISWIE to Gromov-Wasserstein in special cases and establish dimension-independent statistical stability. Experiments on cellular imaging and 3D human meshes are reported to show superior clustering and discriminative performance relative to GW and PW while reducing runtime.

Significance. If the rigid-invariance claim and the dimension-independent stability are rigorously established, RISWIE would supply a practical, scalable alternative to existing isometry-invariant distances whose cubic or higher complexity limits their use on large point clouds. The reported experimental gains on real geometric datasets would then constitute concrete evidence of utility in shape analysis and imaging applications. The nearly-linear complexity and the provision of bounds (even if only in special cases) are positive features that distinguish the work from purely heuristic projection methods.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and construction (method section)] Abstract and construction (method section): the central claim that optimal signed-permutation matching on data-adaptive bases produces rigid invariance is load-bearing. Signed permutations realize only the finite hyperoctahedral group; a generic rotation R in SO(d) maps the adaptive basis vectors to directions that need not coincide with any signed-permutation image of the second basis. Without an explicit argument showing that the similarity-driven choice of permutation exactly compensates for arbitrary R (or that the bases themselves transform covariantly), the distance can change under continuous rotations even when the underlying measures are rigidly related. The abstract notes bounds only “in special cases,” leaving the general invariance claim unsubstantiated.
  2. [Theoretical results section] Theoretical results section: the dimension-independent statistical stability is asserted without reference to a specific theorem or concentration inequality. If this stability is derived from the projection-based nature of the construction, the relevant concentration statement (or its proof sketch) should be stated explicitly so that the dimension-free claim can be verified.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Experiments] The experimental section would benefit from explicit dataset sizes, number of Monte-Carlo repetitions, and statistical significance tests for the reported clustering and discriminative improvements.
  2. [Method] Notation for the adaptive bases and the signed-permutation selection criterion should be introduced with a short display equation early in the method section to improve readability.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We are grateful to the referee for the detailed and insightful comments on our work. We address the major comments point by point below, providing clarifications and indicating the revisions we will make to the manuscript.

read point-by-point responses
  1. Referee: Abstract and construction (method section): the central claim that optimal signed-permutation matching on data-adaptive bases produces rigid invariance is load-bearing. Signed permutations realize only the finite hyperoctahedral group; a generic rotation R in SO(d) maps the adaptive basis vectors to directions that need not coincide with any signed-permutation image of the second basis. Without an explicit argument showing that the similarity-driven choice of permutation exactly compensates for arbitrary R (or that the bases themselves transform covariantly), the distance can change under continuous rotations even when the underlying measures are rigidly related. The abstract notes bounds only “in special cases,” leaving the general invariance claim unsubstantiated.

    Authors: We thank the referee for this careful analysis of our invariance claim. Our construction relies on data-adaptive bases that are designed to transform in a covariant manner under rigid transformations, combined with the selection of the optimal signed permutation that aligns the axes based on distributional similarity. This ensures that for measures related by a rigid transformation, the distance remains unchanged. However, we agree that an explicit argument is necessary to fully substantiate the general case beyond special cases. In the revised manuscript, we will add a detailed explanation and proof sketch in the method and theoretical sections demonstrating the covariance property of the independent embeddings and how the permutation choice compensates for the rotation. We will also update the abstract to better reflect the scope of the invariance result. revision: partial

  2. Referee: Theoretical results section: the dimension-independent statistical stability is asserted without reference to a specific theorem or concentration inequality. If this stability is derived from the projection-based nature of the construction, the relevant concentration statement (or its proof sketch) should be stated explicitly so that the dimension-free claim can be verified.

    Authors: We appreciate the referee bringing this to our attention. The dimension-independent statistical stability is indeed derived from the projection-based construction and the properties of independent embeddings, allowing the use of concentration inequalities that do not depend on dimension. In the revised version, we will explicitly cite the relevant concentration inequality (such as those based on the bounded differences inequality or results from the sliced Wasserstein literature) and include a short proof sketch in the theoretical results section to allow verification of the dimension-free claim. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: derivation self-contained via explicit construction

full rationale

The abstract defines RISWIE directly through data-adaptive bases plus signed-permutation matching chosen by distributional similarity, then separately states bounds to GW only in special cases and dimension-independent stability. No equations appear that equate the output distance to a fitted parameter or prior result by construction, nor do any self-citations load-bear the invariance claim. The construction is presented as a new combination of existing ideas rather than a renaming or self-referential fit, satisfying the default expectation of non-circularity when no reduction to inputs is exhibited.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 1 invented entities

Only the abstract is available; no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are stated. The method itself is the primary new element introduced.

invented entities (1)
  • RISWIE distance no independent evidence
    purpose: Scalable rigid-invariant comparison of probability measures
    New distance introduced in the abstract to combine invariance and efficiency.

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