REVIEW 1 major objections 4 minor 19 references
The McKay conjecture with coprime group automorphisms and the Okuyama-Wajima argument
T0 review · 1 major / 4 minor · reviewed 2026-08-03 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read The paper proves that in p-solvable groups the McKay bijection — between characters of degree not divisible by p and characters of the normalizer of a Sylow p-subgroup — can be chosen equivariantly under any coprime group of automorphisms f
desk verdict Theorem B is a genuinely useful new counting tool, but the proof of the independent main theorem rests on an unjustified D=B reduction in Corollary 2.3. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The argument is carried by two mechanisms. First, a Gallagher-type class-function count: with N, G normal in A and θ A-invariant, the vector space spanned by A-invariant irreducible characters of G over θ is isomorphic to the space of functions on a set of representatives of θ-good conjugacy classes of G/N; hence the character count is a class count. Here θ-good means every extension of θ to N⟨a⟩ is fixed by the centralizer of N a modulo N. Second, the Okuyama-Wajima transfer: for a group K with order not divisible by p and a p-subgroup P with KP normal, θ extends to KU exactly when the Glauberman correspondent θ* — the distinguished irreducible constituent of θ's restriction to the fixed-po
What would settle it
Compute the two sides of Corollary 2.3 in a small p-solvable example with C≤D=N_B(U)<B, for instance a semidirect product where U is a p-complement of H and its normalizer in B is smaller than B. If |Irr^{KD}(KS|θ)| and |Irr^D(S|θ*)| differ for some P-invariant θ with Glauberman correspondent θ*, the D=B reduction fails and Theorem A loses its support from this argument.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central claim is Theorem A: for a finite group G with a Sylow p-subgroup P, a normal subgroup N, a P-invariant irreducible character θ of N, and a group A of automorphisms stabilizing both N and P, there exists an A-equivariant bijection between the irreducible characters of G of degree prime to p that lie over θ and the analogous characters of the subgroup N_G(P)N. To prove this, the paper establishes a generalized Gallagher count: whenever N and G are normal in A and θ is A-invariant, |Irr^A(G|θ)| equals the number of θ-good conjugacy classes of G/N, where an element is θ-good when all extensions of θ to the subgroups generated by N and that element are invariant under the relevant cen
Load-bearing premise
The proof of Corollary 2.3 says 'we can assume D=B' right after displaying the subgroup diagram, without showing how the general case C≤D≤B follows; since Theorem 2.4 later applies the corollary with D=N_B(U), a proper subgroup of B in general, the entire chain from Corollary 2.3 to Theorem A rests on this unstated reduction.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- For p-solvable groups, the automorphism-equivariant McKay bijection can now be proved without relying on the classification of endo-p-permutation modules; the argument needs only the Okuyama-Wajima extension transfer and the generalized character count.
- The relative version above a fixed character θ means the McKay bijection is compatible with Clifford theory: it can be restricted to characters lying over any P-invariant irreducible character of a normal subgroup.
- Theorem B gives a practical way to compute |Irr^A(G|θ)|: one only needs to inspect which conjugacy classes of G/N are θ-good, a group-theoretic condition.
- Since the bijection is A-equivariant, any group of automorphisms that stabilizes P and N yields the same comparison; in particular, outer automorphisms acting on G cannot break the McKay bijection for p-solvable groups.
- The generalized count applies to any A-invariant θ, not only in p-solvable or prime-to-p situations, so it is a general counting tool for invariant characters over a fixed character.
Reading between the lines
- The counting theorem suggests a route to an automorphism-equivariant version of the Alperin-McKay conjecture for p-solvable blocks, where the relevant local structure is a maximal Brauer pair rather than a Sylow subgroup; the paper does not address blocks.
- The proof's dependence on the abelian case of Okuyama-Wajima indicates that extending Theorem A beyond p-solvable groups would require a non-abelian version of the extension transfer; the paper notes such versions are known only through much heavier module-theoretic results.
- One could test the limits of Theorem B by asking whether a similar 'good element' count holds for characters fixed by a Galois group, not just by a group of automorphisms; the paper mentions this as an open direction.
- The unstated reduction D=B in Corollary 2.3 deserves a direct check: if the equality fails for a proper D=N_B(U), the proof's chain would need repair even if the theorem remains true.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. This paper proves Theorem A: if a finite group A acts on G stabilizing a normal subgroup N and a Sylow p-subgroup P, and G/N is p-solvable, then for every P-invariant θ∈Irr(N) there is an A-equivariant bijection Irr_{p'}(G|θ) → Irr_{p'}(N_G(P)N|θ). The proof is independent of Rossi's recent theorem and follows the classical Okuyama-Wajima strategy. The main ingredients are Theorem B, a new Gallagher-type count of A-invariant characters lying over θ in terms of θ-good conjugacy classes; Lemma 2.2, a reduction tool; Corollary 2.3, an equivariant version of the Okuyama-Wajima correspondence; Theorem 2.4, which compares p'-degree A-invariant characters of G and B over a product character; and a final induction in Theorem 3.1 along the lines of Navarro's proof of the p-solvable McKay conjecture.
Significance. If correct, the paper gives a self-contained proof of the automorphism-equivariant relative McKay conjecture for p-solvable groups, avoiding the deep classification results used in Rossi's approach (Ladisch, Dade, Turull, endo-p-permutation modules). Theorem B is a natural generalization of Gallagher's counting theorem and is likely to be of independent interest. The organization is clear and the arguments follow Navarro's book closely, making the proof checkable. The main issue identified below concerns the precise statement and proof of Corollary 2.3; it is local and fixable, and it does not appear to affect the final theorem.
major comments (1)
- [Corollary 2.3] The proof of Corollary 2.3 declares "we can assume D=B" without the required justification. The reduction is valid only after replacing A by KD and B by D, using N_{KD}(P)=D because K∩B=C≤D. More importantly, the statement does not assume KS is normal in KD, yet the proof invokes Lemma 2.2, which requires G=KS to be a normal subgroup of the ambient group. This normality is not automatic from SŸD and KŸA; for example, in a semidirect product A=K⋊P with S a non-trivial subgroup of P, KS is not normalized by K. The application in Theorem 2.4 (S=U, D=N_B(U)) has KU normal in KD=N_A(KU) by construction, so the main result is not endangered; nevertheless, Corollary 2.3 must be restated with the missing normality hypothesis and the reduction to D=B must be derived explicitly.
minor comments (4)
- [Corollary 2.3] When fixing the proof, please add the explicit observation N_{KD}(P)=D (every k∈K normalizing P lies in C) and state that the D=B case is applied to the ambient group KD.
- [Theorem 2.4] The sentence "Notice that Z⊆P" should be justified: since Z is a normal p-subgroup of G, it is contained in every Sylow p-subgroup of G, in particular in P.
- [Theorem 3.1] The letter A is reused for a set of orbit representatives in the proof of Theorem 3.1, and later B is reused for another set. This conflicts with the groups A and B; please use e.g. \mathcal{A} and \mathcal{B}.
- [General] The header of the arXiv version contains typographical artifacts such as "McKa y" and "W ajima"; these should be cleaned up in the final version.
Circularity Check
No circularity: all load-bearing inputs are external standard results; the flagged Corollary 2.3 issue is a proof gap, not circularity.
full rationale
The paper's central claim, Theorem A, is derived from Theorem 2.4, which in turn is derived from Theorem 2.1 (the Okuyama–Wajima argument, cited externally from [OW80]) and Theorem B. Theorem B is a Gallagher-type counting theorem proved from Navarro's external Theorem 5.14 together with standard character-triple reductions; none of these inputs assumes the McKay conjecture with automorphisms or the target bijection. The cited sources [Nav18], [OW80], and [Isa76] are standard external works not authored by the present authors, and they are used with stated structural assumptions that do not include the target result. There are no fitted parameters presented as predictions, no self-citation chain used as a load-bearing justification, and no renaming of a known result as an independent derivation. The only concern raised by a close reading is that Corollary 2.3's proof says 'we can assume D=B' without deriving the reduction for proper subgroups D, although the later proof of Theorem 2.4 applies the corollary with D=N_B(U), which is in general a proper subgroup of B. That is a potential proof gap or correctness issue, not an instance of circularity: the proof of the D=B case does not invoke the general statement, the target theorem, or any fitted quantity. Consequently, no circular step is exhibited, and the circularity score is 0.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption Okuyama-Wajima argument holds for an arbitrary p-subgroup P and abelian U/C, not only in the original stronger hypothesis.
- standard math Glauberman correspondence and its equivariance: B_θ = B_θ* and H_θ = H_θ* for the fixed-point subgroup C_K(P).
- standard math Strong isomorphism of character triples preserves θ-goodness and p'-degree ratios.
- standard math The p-complement U/C of H/C from Schur-Zassenhaus exists, and B-conjugates of U are H-conjugates.
- domain assumption The restriction bijections from [Isa73, Lem 10.5]/[Nav18, Lem 6.8] preserve N_A(KU)- and N_B(U)-fixed characters.
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of The McKay conjecture with coprime group automorphisms and the Okuyama-Wajima argument." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/MGMNJUGK
@misc{pith2026251213406,
author = {Pith},
title = {Pith review of: The McKay conjecture with coprime group automorphisms and the Okuyama-Wajima argument},
year = {2026},
howpublished = {\url{https://pith.science/paper/MGMNJUGK}},
note = {Machine review of arXiv:2512.13406}
}
abstract
Let $A$ and $G$ be finite groups. Suppose that $A$ acts coprimely on $G$ stabilizing $N\triangleleft G$. Let $\theta \in \rm{Irr}(N)$ be $A$-invariant. We prove that the number of $A$-invariant irreducible characters of $G$ that lie over $\theta$ can be counted in terms of the $(A, \theta)$-good conjugacy classes of $G_\theta/N$, where $G_\theta$ is the inertia subgroup of $\theta$ in $G$. This result generalizes a classic result of Gallagher and can be used to prove the following: if $P$ is an $A$-invariant Sylow $p$-subgroup of $G$ and $G$ is $p$-solvable, then there exists an $A$-equivariant (McKay) bijection between the irreducible characters of degree prime to $p$ of $G$ and those of $\textbf{N}_G(P)$. While this is a consequence of a recent result of D. Rossi, our approach here is independent of Rossi's and follows the original idea of the proof of the McKay conjecture for $p$-solvable groups. In particular, we rely on the so-called Okuyama-Wajima argument to deal with characters above Glauberman correspondents.
Reference graph
Works this paper leans on
-
[1]
M. Cabanes and B. Sp\"ath, The McKay conjecture on character degrees https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.20392, to appear in Ann. of Math
-
[2]
E. C. Dade, A correspondence of characters. In: The Santa Cruz Conference on Finite Groups (Santa Cruz, CA, 1979), Proc. Sympos. Pure Math. 37, Amer. Math. Soc., 401--403 (1980)
1979
-
[3]
P. X. Gallagher, The number of conjugacy classes in a finite group. Math Z. 118 (1970), 175--179
1970
-
[4]
I. M. Isaacs, Characters of solvable and symplectic groups. Amer. J. Math. 95 (1973), 594--635
1973
-
[5]
I. M. Isaacs, Character theory of finite groups . Academic Press, New York-London, 1976. Pure and Applied Mathematics, No. 69
1976
-
[6]
I. M. Isaacs, Characters of Solvable Groups . Graduate Studies in Mathematics 189 AMS, 2018
2018
-
[7]
I. M. Isaacs, G. Malle and G. Navarro, A reduction theorem for the McKay conjecture, Invent. math. 170 (2007), 33--101
2007
-
[8]
Ladisch, Character correspondences induced by magic representations
F. Ladisch, Character correspondences induced by magic representations. arXiv:1004.4538v2 (2011)
arXiv 2011
Show all 19 references
-
[9]
Malle and B
G. Malle and B. Sp\"ath, Characters of odd degree. Ann. of Math. (2) 184 (2016), 869--908
2016
-
[10]
J. C. Murray, Counting real characters after Gallagher , J. Algebra , 632 (2023), 273--285
2023
-
[11]
Navarro, Character Theory and the McKay Conjecture
G. Navarro, Character Theory and the McKay Conjecture. Cambridge Stud. Adv. Math. 175 , Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, 2018
2018
-
[12]
Navarro and B
G. Navarro and B. Sp \"a th, On B rauer's height zero conjecture. J. Eur. Math. Soc. 16 (2014), no. 4, 695--747
2014
-
[13]
Okuyama and M
T. Okuyama and M. Wajima, Character correspondence and p -blocks of p -solvable groups, Osaka J. Math. 17 (1980), 801--806
1980
-
[14]
Puig, Local extensions in endo-permutation modules split: a proof of Dade's theorem
L. Puig, Local extensions in endo-permutation modules split: a proof of Dade's theorem. In: S\'eminaire sur les groupes finis, Tome III, Publ. Math. Univ. Paris VII 25, 199--205 (1987)
1987
-
[15]
Rossi, The McKay Conjecture and central isomorphic character triples, J
D. Rossi, The McKay Conjecture and central isomorphic character triples, J. Algebra , 618 (2023) 42--55
2023
-
[16]
Sp \"a th, Extensions of characters in type D and the inductive McKay condition, II
B. Sp \"a th, Extensions of characters in type D and the inductive McKay condition, II. Invent. math. 242 (2025), 45--122
2025
-
[17]
Turull, Above the Glauberman correspondence
A. Turull, Above the Glauberman correspondence. Adv. Math. 217 (2008) 2170--2205
2008
-
[18]
Turull, The Brauer-Clifford group
A. Turull, The Brauer-Clifford group. J. Algebra 321 (2009) 3620--3642
2009
-
[19]
Wolf, Variations on McKay's character degree conjecture J
T. Wolf, Variations on McKay's character degree conjecture J. Algebra 135 (1990), 123--138
1990
Reviewed August 3, 2026 · model on record in the stance chip above.
Discussion (0). Continue with ORCID to comment.