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Diagnosing the AGN population origin of TeV neutrinos with their spatial correlation

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Pith's one-line read The paper forecasts that a 30 km³ underwater neutrino telescope with ~0.04° angular resolution can confirm or refute an AGN origin of diffuse TeV neutrinos at 8.7σ within one year.

desk verdict A useful, internally consistent forecast of when future neutrino telescopes can test the AGN-origin hypothesis, but the headline significance rests on a linear neutrino-X-ray scaling that the data don't yet justify. read the letter →

arxiv 2512.19403 v4 pith:526CH5VZ submitted 2025-12-22 astro-ph.HE

Xiao-Bin Chen , Ruo-Yu Liu , Xiang-Yu Wang This is my paper · ORCID
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The reading

The paper tests whether the diffuse TeV neutrino background detected by IceCube is produced by the coronae of X-ray-bright active galactic nuclei (AGNs). It simulates the cross-correlation between neutrino arrival directions and the positions of AGNs from the eFEDS X-ray catalog, assuming neutrino flux scales with X-ray flux. The central result is that a future 30 km³ underwater telescope with sub-0.1° angular resolution (HUNT) can establish or rule out this AGN origin at ~8.7σ after one year, while IceCube-Gen2 would reach only ~3.1σ after five years. The difference is driven almost entirely by angular resolution, not exposure. This matters because it determines whether the 'hidden' corona scenario for neutrino production can be decisively tested in the near future.

What carries the argument

The central machinery is an unbinned maximum-likelihood stacking analysis: each neutrino event is assigned a signal probability that is a sum of Gaussians centred on catalogued AGNs, weighted by the AGN's X-ray flux, and the significance is the likelihood ratio against an isotropic background. The method's reliability hinges on a source-confusion criterion derived from simulations: the mean angular separation of the selected AGN subset must be at least three times the detector's point-spread function (d̄ ≥ 3σ_psf). This criterion sets the X-ray flux threshold, which in turn controls how much of the AGN population must be accounted for by an X-ray luminosity function extrapolation.

What would settle it

Compare the likelihood-ratio test statistic from the first year of HUNT data above 300 TeV (in the 142 deg² eFEDS field or a wider X-ray survey) with the predicted ~8.7σ. If the observed TS corresponds to less than ~3σ, then either AGNs contribute <17% of the astrophysical neutrino flux or the linear X-ray-flux weighting is wrong. A more direct test: measure the flux-weighting index s by fitting the signal PDF with free s; s consistent with 0 would falsify the linear-correlation assumption.

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Core claim

The paper's central claim is that the AGN origin of the diffuse astrophysical neutrino flux is diagnosable by spatial correlation, and that the diagnostic power is set by the detector's point-spread function rather than by its size alone. Using a flux-weighted unbinned likelihood analysis applied to the eFEDS AGN catalog, the authors simulate the expected test statistic under the hypothesis that all astrophysical neutrinos above a few hundred TeV come from AGNs with neutrino luminosity ∝ X-ray flux. They find that a 30 km³ underwater telescope achieving ~0.04° resolution above 300 TeV would yield ~8.7σ significance in one year (rising to ~19σ in five years), whereas IceCube-Gen2 with ~0.2° r

Load-bearing premise

The forecast assumes that an AGN's neutrino luminosity scales linearly with its X-ray flux (Nν ∝ F_X); if the true correlation is weaker or absent, the 8.7σ and 3.1σ significances collapse toward ~2σ.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • With one year of HUNT-like exposure above 300 TeV, the AGN-origin hypothesis can be confirmed or excluded at ~8.7σ, given α=1 and linear X-ray flux scaling.
  • IceCube-Gen2's five-year reach (~3.1σ) is insufficient for a decisive test, so angular resolution is the primary design driver for next-generation observatories.
  • If AGNs contribute less than ~17% of the astrophysical neutrino flux, three years of HUNT data cannot distinguish them from an isotropic background at 3σ; the threshold drops to ~9% with ten years.
  • The same method, applied to blazars, could detect a ~5% blazar contribution above 300 TeV at >9σ with three years of HUNT exposure, indicating the method generalizes to other source classes.
  • Future wide-area X-ray surveys (e.g., all-sky eROSITA catalogs) would reduce the XLF extrapolation uncertainty and improve the achievable significance.

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Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the linear Nν ∝ F_X scaling is replaced by a weaker correlation (s < 0.5), the predicted significance for HUNT drops to ~2σ; a measurement of s from early HUNT data would therefore determine whether the 8.7σ forecast is realistic, independent of the AGN fraction.
  • The source-confusion criterion d̄ ≥ 3σ_psf implicitly assumes the X-ray AGN positions are exact and that the neutrino direction error is Gaussian; with real data, catalog incompleteness and non-Gaussian tails in the PSF could degrade the significance more than the quoted systematics.
  • The same likelihood framework could be applied to gamma-ray AGNs or star-forming galaxies, with the X-ray flux replaced by other tracers, to test which source population dominates the neutrino background.
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Referee Report

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Summary. This paper presents Monte Carlo forecasts for detecting a spatial correlation between X-ray-selected AGNs (from the eFEDS catalog) and TeV muon neutrinos with future neutrino telescopes. The analysis uses an unbinned likelihood ratio, a source-confusion criterion (mean AGN separation must exceed 3 times the PSF), and an XLF-based extrapolation from the flux-limited AGN subset to the full population, with uncertainties from the XLF and from event-by-event PSF variation included. Under the fiducial model with alpha=1 (all astrophysical neutrinos from AGNs) and N_nu proportional to F_X, the paper quotes 3.1 sigma for IceCube-Gen2 after 5 years and 8.7 sigma for a 30 km^3 HUNT-class detector after 1 year. It also explores partial AGN contributions and a power-law weighting index s.

Significance. If the fiducial linear scaling holds, the paper makes a concrete and useful planning statement: angular resolution, not just exposure, is the decisive factor, and a 30 km^3 telescope could establish or rule out an AGN origin within about one year. The Monte Carlo framework is carefully built, with a 5x10^6 background-only TS calibration (Appendix A) and a transparent treatment of XLF and PSF systematics. A notable strength is that the authors explicitly explore the dependence on the flux-weighting index s; however, that same exploration shows how sensitive the headline significance is to an assumption they themselves label as unwarranted.

major comments (2)
  1. [Section 5.2, Eq. (5), Fig. 8] The headline numbers (8.7 sigma for HUNT after one year, 3.1 sigma for IceCube-Gen2 after five years) assume s=1, i.e., N_nu proportional to F_X. The paper states that "the linear relationship is unwarranted yet," and Fig. 8 shows that for a 30 km^3 detector with three years of exposure the significance drops to about 2 sigma at s=0. Because the signal weights w_j in Eq. (5) and the XLF extrapolation in Eq. (3) both depend on this scaling, the advertised significances are conditional on an unvalidated physical assumption. The abstract and conclusions should present the s=1 values as a fiducial model, explicitly state the dependence, and preferably quote a conservative s<1 scenario.
  2. [Section 2.3, Fig. 2] The source-confusion criterion d_bar >= 3 sigma_psf is calibrated from simulations with a true f_tot = 0.5 only. The text claims this trend is valid for a wide range of f_tot, but no supporting result is shown. The HUNT one-year forecast uses f_tot = alpha*beta = 0.8 at E_nu > 300 TeV, and the likelihood bias from confusion can depend on the signal fraction. Please add validation runs at the f_tot values actually used in the forecasts, or state the range of f_tot over which the criterion has been verified.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Abstract vs. Section 4] The abstract says "about 8 sigma" with one year of HUNT, while Section 4 quotes 8.7 sigma. Earlier abstract variants also mention 3 sigma with ten years and 6 sigma with one year. Please harmonize the quoted numbers across the manuscript.
  2. [Eq. (4)-(5) and Section 2.1] The symbol f is used both for the fitted signal fraction in the flux-limited sample and for the extrapolated total f_tot. This overloaded notation is confusing; define the two quantities explicitly at first use.
  3. [Figure 6] The bottom panel y-axis is labeled "TS" and the caption says the plotted quantity is sqrt(TS), but the quoted values (3.1, 8.7, etc.) are sqrt(TS). Relabel the axis or clarify to avoid ambiguity.
  4. [Figure 2] The color-bar annotation "frecover 0.5" is unclear. State explicitly that the plotted quantity is f_tot - 0.5 or the recovered fraction offset from the true value.
  5. [Section 4] There is a typo: "after one years of exposure" should be "after one year of exposure."

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the significance forecasts are forward Monte Carlo sensitivity calculations under explicit external inputs, not derivations from the hypothesis being tested.

full rationale

The paper does not fit any parameter to the quantity it claims to predict. The astrophysical-neutrino fraction β is taken from IceCube 9.5-year data; the AGN X-ray luminosity function and its 1σ uncertainties are taken from Ueda et al. (2014); detector angular resolutions and effective areas are taken from the IceCube-Gen2 design study and HUNT detector simulations. The only tuned quantity, F_min, is set by the independent source-confusion criterion d̄ ≥ 3σ_psf and is explicitly varied (Figures 2 and 5); it is not adjusted to maximize significance. The headline 8.7σ is a conditional sensitivity: the simulation injects an AGN-origin signal with α=1 and s=1 and then reconstructs it with the same likelihood, which is the standard way to forecast detection significance. The assumption N_ν ∝ F_X is openly labeled 'unwarranted yet' (§5.2), and the paper itself shows the significance falls to ~2σ at s=0 (Figure 8), so the result is transparently model-dependent rather than circular. No load-bearing self-citation or imported uniqueness theorem is used; the HUNT performance reference is to the detector collaboration, not to an unverified claim by the same authors. Appendix A calibrates the TS distribution against 5×10^6 background-only Monte Carlo realizations and Wilks' theorem; this validates, not pre-determines, the quoted significance. No step in the derivation chain reduces by construction to its own inputs.

Assumptions & free parameters 3 free parameters · 6 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The forecast rests on a physical hypothesis (AGN neutrino flux ∝ X-ray flux), a fixed astrophysical mix (α=1 for headline numbers), and external inputs (eFEDS catalog, Ueda et al. XLF, detector design projections). No new physical entities are introduced. The only analysis parameter chosen by hand is the flux threshold F_min, set by the empirical source-confusion criterion.

free parameters (3)
  • alpha (AGN fraction of astrophysical neutrinos) = 1 (baseline; varied in Fig. 7)
    Set to 1 for the headline forecasts; the significance drops below 3σ for α≲0.17 with 3 years HUNT. This is a scenario assumption, not a fit.
  • s (flux-weighting index, Nν ∝ F_X^s) = 1 (baseline; varied in Fig. 8)
    Assumes Nν ∝ F_X; for s=0 significance is only ~2σ. The linear correlation is itself the hypothesis under test, so choosing s=1 is a strong assumption.
  • F_min (AGN X-ray flux threshold) = 2.4e-13 erg s^-1 cm^-2 (IceCube-Gen2, E>100 TeV); 4e-14 erg s^-1 cm^-2 (HUNT, E>300 TeV)
    Chosen so that the average AGN angular separation satisfies d>3σ_psf; it controls how many AGNs enter the stacking analysis and therefore drives the XLF extrapolation uncertainty (Fig. 5). It is an analysis choice, not a fit to the target significance.
assumptions (6)
  • domain assumption eFEDS 142 deg^2 AGN catalog is representative of the all-sky AGN population after XLF extrapolation
    The analysis simulates the whole sky using a single 142 deg^2 field; the extrapolation assumes the eFEDS sample plus the XLF describes the global population (§2.1).
  • domain assumption Ueda et al. (2014) XLF with 1σ uncertainties adequately describes the X-ray AGN population
    Used for the unresolved AGN correction in Eq. (3) and for δ_XLF (§4); the forecast's systematic budget depends on this fit.
  • domain assumption Detector performance projections (PSF, effective area) accurately represent future telescopes
    Gen2 and HUNT characteristics are taken from design studies (Bradascio & Glüsenkamp 2019; Huang & HUNT Collaboration 2025) and are not yet measured.
  • ad hoc to paper The d>3σpsf source-confusion criterion is valid for all adopted F_min
    Empirically established by the authors' own MC (Fig. 2) and adopted for all subsequent analyses; not derived analytically and may depend on catalog geometry.
  • domain assumption The atmospheric neutrino background is isotropic and uniform across the field (B_i = 1/Ω)
    Assumed in the background PDF of Eq. (5); atmospheric neutrinos are approximately isotropic on the scales considered.
  • standard math Wilks theorem applies to the TS distribution
    Assumed in Eq. (6) for σ≈√TS; verified by 5×10^6 background-only MC in Appendix A.

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abstract

The recent detection of TeV neutrinos from nearby Seyfert galaxies (e.g., NGC 1068) by IceCube suggests that active galactic nuclei (AGNs) could make a significant contribution to diffuse astrophysical neutrinos. The absence of TeV gamma-rays from NGC 1068 indicates neutrino production in a compact opaque region of gamma-rays. The vicinity of the supermassive black hole, such as the disk-corona, is an ideal region, where the high radiation density leads to efficient neutrino production and gamma-ray attenuation. Disk-corona models predict that the neutrino emission from AGNs correlates with X-ray emission, which traces the coronal activity. In this paper, we assess whether diffuse TeV neutrinos can originate from X-ray-emitting AGNs with Monte Carlo simulations, considering the predicted performance of future neutrino telescopes. We test this hypothesis by searching for spatial correlations between the X-ray AGN population and high-energy neutrinos, assuming that the neutrino flux scales with the AGN X-ray flux. After accounting for the fraction of the AGN X-ray flux resolved by eFEDS and the remaining unresolved AGN component, we find that an AGN origin of diffuse neutrinos can be tested at a significance of about $3\sigma$ with ten years of IceCube-Gen2 observations. With improved angular resolution and sensitivity, a 30\,km$^{3}$-scale underwater neutrino telescope such as HUNT is expected to reach a significance of about $6\sigma$ with one year of exposure. The detection significance decreases if AGNs contribute partially to the total astrophysical neutrino flux. Our results highlight the critical role of angular resolution in diagnosing the AGN origin of diffuse TeV neutrinos.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. The fraction of astrophysical neutrinos β as a function of the neutrino energy threshold E th ν , derived from IceCube observations (R. Abbasi et al. 2022). As the energy threshold increases, the atmospheric neutrino background is progressively suppressed, causing β to approach unity at high energies. The AGN catalog from the eROSITA Final Equatorial-Depth Survey (eFEDS) (T. Liu et al. 2022) forms the basis of our a… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Deviation of the recovered signal fraction from the true value, ftot − 0.5, as a function of PSF and aver￾age source separation. Red (blue) regions indicate positive (negative) deviations, while the white region corresponds to no bias (i.e., ftot = 0.5). The green dashed line marks d = 3σpsf, above which the recovered fraction converges to the true value ftot = 0.5. provides a practical way to control the source den… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. illustrates how the detection significance de￾pends on the angular resolution and the total number of detected neutrinos, where the astrophysical neutrino fraction above 100 TeV is fixed at f = 0.5, consistent 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 Angular resolution [deg] 10 3 10 4 Number of neutrinos detected IceCube 3 5 0 1 2 3 5 10 20 36 Significance Level [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Trade-off between neutrino energy threshold and exposure time for future neutrino observatories. The left panel shows results for IceCube-Gen2, adopting the projected energy-dependent angular resolution from F. Bradascio & T. Gl¨usenkamp (2019). The right panel shows t…
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Relative uncertainty factor δXLF of XLF in the extrapolated AGN contribution as a function of the AGN flux threshold Fmin. The shaded band shows the 68% confidence interval derived from Monte Carlo realizations. The vertical blue, orange, and green lines mark the value…
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Top panel: Relative uncertainty on the inferred total AGN neutrino fraction δ as a function of the exposure time, derived from repeated Monte Carlo simulations. Bot￾tom panel: The detection significance, expressed as √ TS, as a function of exposure time. The steady dec…
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Top panel: Recovered AGN neutrino fraction ftot as a function of the assumed AGN neutrino fraction α. The blue shaded band shows the central 68% interval from 800 Monte Carlo realizations, while the solid blue line indi￾cates the mean of ftot from the simulations. The …
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: Left: Cumulative fraction of the total neutrinos contributed by blazars as a function of the gamma-ray flux threshold of blazars. The solid line shows the median, while the shaded regions indicate the 68% and 95 % credible intervals. Right: Top panel: Same as the [PIT…
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: Test statistic (TS) distribution obtained from 5 × 106 background-only Monte Carlo simulations for the HUNT detector.The histogram shows the empirical TS distribution from simulations.The dashed black line indicates the theoretical expectation from Wilks’ theorem for …

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