Nontrivial torsion in the Tate--Shafarevich group of elliptic curves via visibility and twists
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Quadratic twists of elliptic curves with additive reduction at odd primes ℓ produce nontrivial ℓ-torsion in their Tate-Shafarevich groups via visibility.
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Core claim
By applying the visibility theorem to elliptic curves E over Q that have additive reduction at an odd prime ℓ, one obtains quadratic twists E^D such that Sha(E^D/Q) contains a nontrivial element of order ℓ. For ℓ=3 this produces concrete pairs of non-isomorphic elliptic curves over Q that agree on Birch-Swinnerton-Dyer invariants, Kodaira symbols, and minimal discriminants, but whose Tate-Shafarevich groups are isomorphic and each contain nontrivial 3-torsion.
What carries the argument
The visibility theorem, which maps certain cohomology classes into the Selmer group of an elliptic curve, applied after a quadratic twist to curves with additive reduction at ℓ.
If this is right
- Nontrivial ℓ-torsion exists in Sha(E^D/Q) for suitable quadratic twists E^D of elliptic curves with additive reduction at ℓ.
- For ℓ=3 there exist non-isomorphic elliptic curves over Q that share BSD invariants, Kodaira symbols, and minimal discriminants yet have isomorphic Sha groups with nontrivial 3-torsion.
- The visibility map after twisting supplies an explicit way to produce torsion in Sha while preserving local reduction types.
- The construction works for any odd prime ℓ, giving a uniform source of Sha torsion across many primes.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same twisting-plus-visibility method could be tested on curves with multiplicative reduction to see whether the additive-reduction hypothesis is essential.
- The pairs of curves with matching invariants but isomorphic Sha could serve as test cases for conjectures relating Sha to the L-function.
- The technique might generalize to produce examples in which Sha torsion affects the parity of the analytic rank in controlled ways.
Load-bearing premise
The visibility theorem applies to the chosen elliptic curves with additive reduction at ℓ and the quadratic twist produces a curve for which the visibility map detects the torsion element.
What would settle it
For one of the explicit ℓ=3 examples, compute the 3-Selmer rank and the order of Sha and verify that the 3-primary part is trivial.
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read the original abstract
Let $\ell$ be an odd prime. We study the visibility theorem for certain elliptic curves over $\mathbb{Q}$ with additive reduction at $\ell$, and deduce the existence of nontrivial $\ell$-torsion in $\Sha(E^D/\mathbb{Q})$ for suitable quadratic twists $E^D$. As an application for $\ell=3$, we exhibit pairs of non-isomorphic elliptic curves with the same BSD invariants, Kodaira symbols, and minimal discriminants, whose Tate--Shafarevich groups are isomorphic and have nontrivial $3$-primary parts.
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper studies the visibility theorem for elliptic curves over Q with additive reduction at an odd prime ℓ. It deduces the existence of nontrivial ℓ-torsion in Sha(E^D/Q) for suitable quadratic twists E^D of such curves. For ℓ=3, it exhibits pairs of non-isomorphic elliptic curves sharing the same BSD invariants, Kodaira symbols, and minimal discriminants, with isomorphic Tate-Shafarevich groups having nontrivial 3-primary parts.
Significance. If the central deduction holds, the work supplies explicit constructions of elliptic curves with visible nontrivial ℓ-torsion in Sha via quadratic twists, together with concrete ℓ=3 examples of curves that agree on all standard arithmetic invariants yet possess isomorphic Sha groups with 3-torsion. Such examples are useful for testing conjectures on the structure of Sha and for illustrating the limitations of local-global invariants in distinguishing elliptic curves.
major comments (1)
- [Visibility theorem and application to twists] The visibility theorem is formulated for curves with additive reduction at ℓ, yet the main deduction applies it to quadratic twists E^D where ℓ divides D. Quadratic twisting changes the Kodaira symbol and valuation v_ℓ(Δ) at ℓ (typically increasing it by 6v_ℓ(D)). The local condition ensuring that the image of the ℓ-torsion point under the connecting homomorphism lies in Sha rather than a larger Selmer group may fail after this change. The manuscript should explicitly verify, in the section containing the visibility theorem and its application to twists, that the required local conditions at ℓ remain satisfied for the chosen D.
minor comments (2)
- [Examples for ℓ=3] Clarify the precise choice of D in the examples (e.g., whether D is always divisible by ℓ) and state the resulting Kodaira symbols for both E and E^D at ℓ.
- [Application section] The abstract refers to 'pairs of non-isomorphic elliptic curves'; the manuscript should include a short table or explicit Weierstrass equations for at least one such pair to make the application concrete.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their careful reading and for identifying the need for an explicit local verification when applying the visibility theorem to quadratic twists. We address the major comment below and will revise the manuscript to incorporate the requested check.
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Referee: [Visibility theorem and application to twists] The visibility theorem is formulated for curves with additive reduction at ℓ, yet the main deduction applies it to quadratic twists E^D where ℓ divides D. Quadratic twisting changes the Kodaira symbol and valuation v_ℓ(Δ) at ℓ (typically increasing it by 6v_ℓ(D)). The local condition ensuring that the image of the ℓ-torsion point under the connecting homomorphism lies in Sha rather than a larger Selmer group may fail after this change. The manuscript should explicitly verify, in the section containing the visibility theorem and its application to twists, that the required local conditions at ℓ remain satisfied for the chosen D.
Authors: We agree that an explicit verification of the local conditions at ℓ is required after twisting. In the revised manuscript we will add a short lemma immediately following the visibility theorem, computing the Kodaira symbol of E^D at ℓ and confirming that the image of the ℓ-torsion point under the connecting homomorphism remains inside the subgroup defining Sha. The argument uses the explicit local Galois-cohomology description for additive reduction together with the fact that our chosen D (with v_ℓ(D) positive and even or odd as needed) produce twists whose local invariants at ℓ still satisfy the visibility criterion. This addition will make the deduction fully rigorous without altering any of the stated theorems or examples. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity in the derivation chain
full rationale
The paper deduces nontrivial ℓ-torsion in Sha(E^D/Q) by applying the visibility theorem to elliptic curves with additive reduction at ℓ and their quadratic twists. No load-bearing step reduces by construction to its own inputs via self-definition, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, or a self-citation chain that renders the result tautological. The central claim rests on external visibility results and explicit twist constructions whose applicability is argued directly rather than assumed by renaming or fitting.
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We study the visibility theorem for certain elliptic curves over Q with additive reduction at ℓ, and deduce the existence of nontrivial ℓ-torsion in Sha(E^D/Q) for suitable quadratic twists E^D.
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