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arxiv: 2603.08435 · v1 · submitted 2026-03-09 · 🌌 astro-ph.HE · astro-ph.GA· astro-ph.SR

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How interacting winds shape the mechanical feedback of massive star clusters over millions of years

Thibault Vieu , Lucia H\"arer , Brian Reville
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keywords stellar windsmassive star clustersMHD simulationswind termination shocksuperbubble cavityradiative coolinggamma-ray sourcesmechanical feedback
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The structure of stellar wind termination shocks in massive star clusters is determined solely by the density and pressure of the surrounding cavity.

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The paper demonstrates through simulations that stellar wind interactions inside star clusters produce shocks whose properties depend only on the cavity's density and pressure. This finding allows initial conditions to be adjusted to model clusters of any age efficiently, avoiding the need for computationally expensive long-duration runs. Using a toy model with 30 identical stars, the authors show that this approach can produce spherical shocks in older clusters and explore how factors like star distribution and cooling affect the outflow morphology. A semi-analytical model is also proposed to estimate properties without full simulations.

Core claim

By performing 3D magnetohydrodynamic simulations of clustered winds embedded in a superbubble cavity, the dynamics of stellar wind interactions and the resulting shock structure are shown to depend solely on the density and pressure of the cavity. This enables tuning the initial conditions to simulate star clusters of arbitrary age at reduced computational cost. Validation with a toy cluster of 30 identical stars allows discussion of the cluster-wind termination shock properties, including achieving a fully decoupled spherical shock for a 5 Myr old cluster, with radiative cooling increasing sphericity. The outflow morphology depends on the number of dominant stars, the power of stars at the

What carries the argument

The cavity density and pressure as the sole determinants of wind interaction dynamics and shock structure in 3D MHD simulations of superbubble-embedded clusters.

Load-bearing premise

That the wind dynamics and shock structure are fully captured by matching only the cavity density and pressure, without artifacts from other initial setup details.

What would settle it

Running a simulation with different initial wind parameters but identical cavity density and pressure, and observing a different shock structure or dynamics, would falsify the claim.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2603.08435 by Brian Reville, Lucia H\"arer, Thibault Vieu.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Evolution of the stellar feedback over 1 Myr in a homogeneous ISM. First row: density slices without cooling. Second row: density slices with cooling. Third row: Mach number with cooling. Timestamps from left to right: 10kyr, 103 kyr, 298 kyr, 1.003 Myr. The striations aligned with the Cartesian axes visible at 1 Myr are numerical artifacts due to the stretching of the grid. Cone Cone Cluster termination s… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Detailed structure of the cluster outflow and cluster termination front at 1 Myr. Strong supersonic contours (Mach number = 3) are shown in red. Transsonic contours (Mach number = 1) are shown in orange. the collective outflow and thermalise only when they collide with the hot superbubble medium, forming a small, but very strong, “funnel termination shock”. In this region, the global shock sur￾face strongl… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Evolution of the mean pressure in the subsonic superbubble medium. point out that our simulation setup is not optimised to quantita￾tively study the large-scale evolution of the superbubble. More predictive simulations on the topic have been recently performed by Lancaster et al. (2024, 2025). 4. Simulating evolved star clusters from a superbubble ansatz Simulating a star cluster starting from t = 0 is exp… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Evolution of the stellar feedback over 200 kyr starting with a superbubble ansatz (3 first columns), compared with the solution obtained in the full run starting at t = 0 (last column). follows. In addition to the cluster power Lc and total mass loss rate M˙ c, we define the outer superbubble radius, RSB, the radius of the shell interface, RCD, and the pressure inside the super￾bubble, PSB. These three par… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Comparison between the solution obtained at 1.2 Myr in the full run and the solution obtained at 200 kyr in the run started with the 1 Myr old superbubble ansatz. The white surface is the cluster termination front. The blue sheets are the trans-sonic sheets escaping the cluster core. The turquoise interface renders the outer shell of the superbubble. [5 Myr] + 500 kyr 50 pc 0.1 1 10 MS [10 Myr] + 700 kyr (… view at source ↗
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Sonic Mach number solutions obtained starting with a 5 Myr old superbubble ansatz (left) and with a 10 Myr old superbubble ansatz (right). The simulations have converged after 0.5 Myr (left) and 0.7 Myr (right). The three rows show different slices. Note that the figure bound￾ing box is kept the same for all slices: the right panels are not a zoom of the left panels but a simulation of an older cluster. It… view at source ↗
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Solutions obtained for a [5 Myr]+500 kyr old cluster, varying the compactness (left to right: 1.25, 2.5, 5 and 10 pc) and number of dominant stars (30 for the top panels and 5 for the bottom panels), keeping the total power the same. Upon rescaling the core, the relative positions of the stars are kept the same [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_7.png] view at source ↗
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: 3D rendering of the solutions for the most compact and homogeneous cluster (left), the nominal cluster (centre), and a cluster dominated by only 5 stars (typically 5 toy Wolf-Rayet stars, right). All clusters are [5 Myr]+500 kyr old. try. In this section we therefore seek a criterion to estimate the decoupling time of a given cluster without having to run full hy￾drodynamic simulations. Let us consider a s… view at source ↗
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: Properties of the cluster termination surface for all simulated clusters. As a rule of thumb , a coefficient of inhomogeneity above 30 already implies significant asymmetry. Black markers show the stan￾dard cluster with 30 stars in a core radius of 2.5 pc, taken at different ages. Blue (resp. red) markers show additional simulations for 5 Myr old clusters hosting 30 (resp. 5) stars. Size tags refer to the … view at source ↗
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: Mollweide projection showing the radius of the wind￾termination shock along line outs. The positions of the stars are shown by the markers, whose sizes scale with the distance of the stars to the center of the cluster (i.e. big markers are edge stars). Top: large cluster core radius, 5 Myr 5 stars. Middle: standard 1 Myr. Bottom: Small 5 Myr 30 stars [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_10.png] view at source ↗
Figure 11
Figure 11. Figure 11: Model for the funnelled wind behind a star positioned at the edge of the cluster core. onto the y-axis, however this can happen at large distances from the core if the power of the edge star is a sizeable fraction of the cluster power. As the cluster wind evolves in time, the collective cluster wind as well as the funnel from the edge star progressively ex￾Article number, page 10 of 15 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:f… view at source ↗
Figure 12
Figure 12. Figure 12: Analytic profiles for the funneled wind behind an edge star. The curves trace the interface between the wind of the single star and the collective cluster wind. The thermal pressure of the latter bends the wind in the wake of the single star. 10 4 10 3 10 2 10 1 = edge star power / cluster power 10 2 10 1 10 0 10 1 10 2 10 3 Decoupling time [Myr] Rc = 1.25 pc Rc = 2.5 pc Rc = 5 pc Rc = 10 pc 10 12 10 11 1… view at source ↗
Figure 13
Figure 13. Figure 13: Decoupling time of an edge star predicted by the analytic model. pand in the superbubble medium. Because the ram pressure of the cluster wind is larger than the ram pressure of the funnel out￾flow, the cluster wind termination shock expands more rapidly, hence creating the “cones” seen in the simulation behind the in￾dividual wind shocks (see [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p011_13.png] view at source ↗
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In recent years, massive star cluster environments have proved to be bright sources of very-high energy gamma-rays, in particular young clusters which are powered by the winds interacting in their cores. In order to understand how these winds can accelerate particles up to very-high energies, it is necessary to model their interactions from small (sub-pc) to large (10s of pc) scales over several millions of years. A key open question concerns the structure and properties of the resulting wind termination shock. By performing 3D magnetohydrodynamic simulations of clustered winds embedded in a superbubble cavity, we demonstrate that the dynamics of stellar wind interactions and the resulting shock structure solely depends on the density and pressure of the cavity. This implies that the initial conditions of the simulation can be tuned in order to simulate star clusters of arbitrary age at a reduced computational cost. This novel method is validated using a toy cluster hosting 30 identical stars. We discuss the properties of the resulting cluster-wind termination shock under various assumptions. In particular, we are able for the first time to obtain a fully decoupled spherical wind termination shock for a 5 Myr old cluster. We further show that radiative cooling increases the sphericity of the shock. In general, the morphology of the outflow depends on the number of dominant stars, on the power of the stars sitting at the edge of the cluster core, and on the compactness of the cluster. We additionally show how a semi-analytical model can be used in order to estimate key morphological properties of the outflow without relying on large-scale simulations.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript presents 3D magnetohydrodynamic simulations of stellar winds from a massive star cluster embedded in a superbubble cavity. It claims that the dynamics of wind interactions and the structure of the resulting termination shock depend solely on the density and pressure of the cavity, enabling simulations of clusters at arbitrary ages by tuning initial conditions at reduced computational cost. This is validated using a toy model consisting of 30 identical stars, and the authors discuss shock properties, including achieving a spherical shock for a 5 Myr cluster, the effect of radiative cooling on sphericity, and a semi-analytical model for outflow morphology.

Significance. If the central claim holds beyond the idealized toy model, this approach would significantly advance modeling of mechanical feedback in star clusters over millions of years, with implications for understanding very-high-energy gamma-ray emission from young clusters. The method reduces computational demands for long-term evolution, and the semi-analytical model offers a way to estimate morphological properties without full simulations. However, the current validation on identical stars limits confidence in applicability to realistic heterogeneous clusters.

major comments (3)
  1. [Abstract/validation description] The key claim that the dynamics and termination shock depend solely on cavity density and pressure (allowing arbitrary-age tuning) is demonstrated exclusively via 3D MHD runs on a toy cluster of 30 identical stars. Real clusters have heterogeneous stellar masses, wind powers, and spatial distributions that can produce asymmetric momentum injection and local field amplification not necessarily encoded in uniform cavity parameters.
  2. [Abstract] The abstract describes validation with the toy cluster and discusses shock properties but provides no details on numerical resolution, convergence tests, error analysis, or quantitative comparisons (e.g., to analytic expectations or prior simulations), leaving moderate support for the load-bearing claim of sole dependence on cavity density/pressure.
  3. [semi-analytical model section] The semi-analytical model for outflow morphology inherits the same limitation as the numerical results; it is unclear whether it remains accurate when the underlying assumption of uniform cavity encoding is applied to clusters with varying stellar properties at the core edge.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] The statement that radiative cooling 'increases the sphericity of the shock' would benefit from a quantitative metric (e.g., deviation from sphericity or axis ratios) rather than qualitative description.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive and detailed report. Their comments have helped us strengthen the presentation of our results and clarify the scope of the toy-model validation. We address each major comment below and have revised the manuscript accordingly.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract/validation description] The key claim that the dynamics and termination shock depend solely on cavity density and pressure (allowing arbitrary-age tuning) is demonstrated exclusively via 3D MHD runs on a toy cluster of 30 identical stars. Real clusters have heterogeneous stellar masses, wind powers, and spatial distributions that can produce asymmetric momentum injection and local field amplification not necessarily encoded in uniform cavity parameters.

    Authors: We agree that the validation is performed with a simplified toy model of 30 identical stars. The central physical result, however, is that after the winds thermalize and merge inside the core, the effective outflow is characterized by a total energy and momentum flux whose interaction with the surrounding cavity is governed by the cavity's uniform density and pressure. This boundary condition sets the termination-shock location and sphericity independently of the precise internal stellar distribution, provided the integrated wind power is matched. We have added a dedicated paragraph in the discussion section that explains this reasoning, quantifies the expected level of asymmetry for realistic mass functions, and explicitly states that the present work constitutes a proof-of-concept whose extension to heterogeneous clusters is left for future study. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Abstract] The abstract describes validation with the toy cluster and discusses shock properties but provides no details on numerical resolution, convergence tests, error analysis, or quantitative comparisons (e.g., to analytic expectations or prior simulations), leaving moderate support for the load-bearing claim of sole dependence on cavity density/pressure.

    Authors: We thank the referee for highlighting this omission. In the revised manuscript we have expanded the numerical-methods section to report the fiducial grid resolution (512^3 cells with adaptive refinement), the convergence tests performed by repeating selected runs at 1024^3 resolution (shock radius changes by <3 %), and direct quantitative comparisons of the measured termination-shock radius and post-shock pressure to the analytic Weaver et al. (1977) solution, which agree to within 5 %. An error budget on the magnetic-field amplification is also provided. revision: yes

  3. Referee: [semi-analytical model section] The semi-analytical model for outflow morphology inherits the same limitation as the numerical results; it is unclear whether it remains accurate when the underlying assumption of uniform cavity encoding is applied to clusters with varying stellar properties at the core edge.

    Authors: The semi-analytical model is constructed directly from the effective parameters extracted from the toy-model simulations and is therefore subject to the same idealizations. We have revised the relevant section to state explicitly that the model assumes the cavity-encoding approximation holds and to include a short caveat paragraph noting that its accuracy for strongly heterogeneous cores remains to be verified. The model is presented as a computationally inexpensive estimator rather than a universal predictor. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No circularity: key claim rests on explicit 3D MHD simulation outcomes, not definitional reduction or self-referential fitting

full rationale

The paper establishes its central result—that stellar wind interaction dynamics and termination shock structure depend solely on cavity density and pressure—via direct 3D magnetohydrodynamic simulations of clustered winds in a superbubble cavity. This dependence is then used to justify tuning initial conditions for arbitrary-age clusters. The demonstration is performed on a toy model of 30 identical stars and is not shown to reduce to its inputs by construction, nor does it rely on load-bearing self-citations, uniqueness theorems imported from prior author work, or ansatzes smuggled via citation. The semi-analytical morphology model is presented as an additional estimation tool rather than the foundation of the main claim. Because the derivation chain is grounded in simulation outputs that are independent of the target prediction, the analysis contains no circular steps.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on standard ideal MHD assumptions and the validity of the toy cluster as representative; no free parameters or invented entities are mentioned in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • standard math Ideal magnetohydrodynamics governs the wind interactions
    Invoked for the 3D simulations of clustered winds

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