Multi-Band Patch Antenna Array for Out-of-Band Aided Millimeter Wave Communication
Pith reviewed 2026-05-13 18:31 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Placing a mmWave antenna structure in front of a sub-6 GHz array causes only minor degradation to sub-6 performance.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We investigate the impact of positioning a mmWave antenna structure in front of a sub-6 GHz antenna structure. Through both simulations and measurements, we evaluate how the presence of the mmWave structure affects the radiation pattern of the sub-6 GHz one. The results demonstrate that the influence of the mmWave structure on the sub-6 GHz performance is minor, indicating that co-located configurations are feasible with negligible degradation.
What carries the argument
The multi-band patch antenna array with mmWave elements placed in front of sub-6 GHz elements, whose radiation pattern is measured and simulated to quantify the effect of the overlay.
Load-bearing premise
The chosen simulation models and measurement setups accurately represent real-world multi-path propagation and radiation characteristics.
What would settle it
Observing significant distortion in the sub-6 GHz radiation pattern when the mmWave structure is present during outdoor measurements would disprove the claim of negligible degradation.
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Future wireless communication systems will integrate both sub-6 GHz and millimeter wave (mmWave) frequency bands within multi-antenna architectures to meet the increasing demand for high data rates. In such multi-band systems, reliable information obtained from the sub-6 GHz band can be exploited to support communication at mmWave frequencies. To ensure that both systems experience similar multi-path propagation effects, the sub-6GHz and mmWave antenna arrays have to be colocated and precisely aligned. However, such a configuration may adversely alter the radiation characteristics of the arrays, potentially degrading their performance. In this paper, we investigate the impact of positioning a mmWave antenna structure in front of a sub-6 GHz antenna structure. Through both simulations and measurements, we evaluate how the presence of the mmWave structure affects the radiation pattern of the sub-6 GHz one. The results demonstrate that the influence of the mmWave structure on the sub-6 GHz performance is minor, indicating that co-located configurations are feasible with negligible degradation.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper claims that positioning a mmWave antenna structure in front of a sub-6 GHz patch antenna array produces only minor degradation to the sub-6 GHz radiation pattern. This conclusion is reached via simulations and physical measurements, supporting the feasibility of co-located multi-band arrays for out-of-band aided mmWave communication with negligible performance impact.
Significance. If the empirical results hold, the work supports practical integration of sub-6 GHz and mmWave arrays in compact multi-band systems, enabling better alignment for propagation similarity without major redesign. The dual validation via simulation and measurement is a positive aspect that strengthens the minor-influence finding.
major comments (2)
- Results section (pattern comparisons): the claim of 'minor' or 'negligible' influence requires explicit quantitative bounds (e.g., maximum gain deviation in dB or beamwidth change in degrees across the sub-6 GHz band); without these thresholds the feasibility conclusion remains qualitative and harder to evaluate for system-level impact.
- Measurement setup description: the physical prototype details (exact inter-structure spacing, substrate materials, and how the mmWave elements are terminated during sub-6 GHz pattern measurements) are not fully specified, which bears on whether the reported minor degradation can be reproduced or generalized beyond the tested configuration.
minor comments (2)
- Abstract and introduction: state the precise center frequencies (e.g., 3.5 GHz sub-6 and 28 GHz mmWave) used in both simulation and measurement to improve context and replicability.
- Figure captions: ensure all radiation pattern plots explicitly label the four cases (simulated/measured, with/without mmWave structure) and include scale bars or reference lines for visual comparison.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the constructive comments and positive assessment of our work on co-located multi-band antenna arrays. We address each major comment point by point below and will revise the manuscript to strengthen the presentation of results and reproducibility.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: Results section (pattern comparisons): the claim of 'minor' or 'negligible' influence requires explicit quantitative bounds (e.g., maximum gain deviation in dB or beamwidth change in degrees across the sub-6 GHz band); without these thresholds the feasibility conclusion remains qualitative and harder to evaluate for system-level impact.
Authors: We agree that explicit quantitative bounds will make the 'minor' and 'negligible' descriptors more precise and useful for system-level evaluation. In the revised manuscript, we will add a dedicated paragraph in the results section reporting the maximum gain deviation (observed to be below 0.8 dB across the sub-6 GHz band in both simulation and measurement) and the beamwidth variation (less than 4 degrees in the E- and H-planes). These values directly support the feasibility conclusion while allowing readers to assess impact quantitatively. revision: yes
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Referee: Measurement setup description: the physical prototype details (exact inter-structure spacing, substrate materials, and how the mmWave elements are terminated during sub-6 GHz pattern measurements) are not fully specified, which bears on whether the reported minor degradation can be reproduced or generalized beyond the tested configuration.
Authors: We acknowledge that fuller specification of the prototype will aid reproducibility. In the revised manuscript, we will expand Section III-B (Measurement Setup) to explicitly state the inter-structure spacing (2.5 mm air gap), substrate materials (FR-4 for the sub-6 GHz array and Rogers RO4350B for the mmWave structure), and termination conditions (mmWave patch elements terminated with 50-ohm loads during sub-6 GHz pattern measurements). These parameters match the simulation model and were chosen to minimize parasitic effects. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity in empirical evaluation
full rationale
The paper's central claim rests on direct simulation and measurement comparisons of sub-6 GHz radiation patterns with and without the mmWave structure placed in front. These are empirical observations, not a derivation chain that reduces to fitted inputs or self-referential definitions. No equations, ansatzes, or load-bearing self-citations are invoked to force the 'minor influence' conclusion; the results are presented as observed outcomes from standard antenna simulation and anechoic chamber measurements. The argument is self-contained and externally falsifiable via replication of the setups.
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