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4MOST ChANGES: Catalog of high-redshift quasar candidates (4.5 < z < 7) selected with SED fitting
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A catalog of 6104 high-redshift quasar candidates at 4.5 < z < 7 is assembled from southern-sky multi-band photometry using SED fitting.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
By merging multiwavelength photometry and performing SED fitting against quasar and brown dwarf templates, followed by ranking on BIC and F-test values, the work produces a catalog of 6104 high-redshift quasar candidates in the southern hemisphere with detections in seven or more bands.
What carries the argument
SED fitting that compares multi-band photometry to quasar and brown dwarf templates and ranks candidates by the requirements BIC > 0, F-test > 10, and at least seven photometric bands.
If this is right
- The catalog supplies ready targets for 4MOST spectroscopy to confirm redshifts and measure black-hole masses.
- The sample enables statistical studies of quasar number density and reionization history that are balanced across hemispheres.
- The same SED-fitting pipeline can be rerun on deeper or wider photometric releases to enlarge the candidate pool.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- If the confirmation fraction holds in larger samples, the method offers a scalable route to pre-selecting high-redshift quasars for next-generation surveys.
- Cross-matching the catalog with future radio or X-ray data could further reduce contamination without new spectroscopy.
- Extending the same template set and cuts to LSST photometry would test whether the approach remains effective at fainter magnitudes.
Load-bearing premise
The chosen quasar and brown dwarf templates together with the specific BIC and F-test thresholds correctly separate genuine high-redshift quasars from stars, galaxies, and brown dwarfs in the photometric data.
What would settle it
A spectroscopic campaign on hundreds of the candidates that finds most lack the broad emission lines or continuum shape expected at z > 4.5 would show the selection thresholds do not isolate true quasars.
read the original abstract
The identification of high-redshift quasars ($z > 4.5$) is critical for studying the early Universe, supermassive black hole growth, and cosmic reionization. Most known high-redshift quasars are located in the northern hemisphere, leaving the southern sky largely unexplored. As part of the 4-meter Multi-Object Spectroscopic Telescope (4MOST) and Chilean AGN/Galaxy Extragalactic Survey (ChANGES) S1604 survey, we aim to create a large catalog of high-redshift quasar candidates in the southern hemisphere using multiwavelength photometry and Spectral Energy Distribution (SED) fitting, with the goal of spectroscopic follow-up with 4MOST. We construct a multi-band photometric catalog by combining optical data from DELVE DR2 and DECaLS DR10, near-infrared data from VHS DR5 with an additional field of VIKING, mid-infrared data from AllWISE, and optical astrometry from Gaia DR3. After applying morphological and color-based cuts, we perform SED fitting using quasar and brown dwarf templates. Statistical outputs, including $\chi^2$, BIC, and F-test are used to rank and select candidates. Our final catalog contains 6104 high-redshift quasar candidates within $4.5 < z < 7$, with detections in 7 or more photometric bands satisfying our SED-based selection criteria (BIC > 0 and F-test > 10). Spectroscopic validation using NTT/EFOSC2 and Palomar/NGPS confirmed 3 high-redshift quasars at $z > 5$ out of 6 observed candidates.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper presents a catalog of 6104 high-redshift quasar candidates at 4.5 < z < 7 selected from combined southern-sky photometry (DELVE DR2, DECaLS DR10, VHS DR5/VIKING, AllWISE, Gaia DR3). After morphological and color cuts, SED fitting is performed with quasar and brown-dwarf templates; candidates are retained if they have detections in at least seven bands and satisfy BIC > 0 and F-test > 10. Spectroscopic follow-up with NTT/EFOSC2 and Palomar/NGPS on six candidates confirmed three objects at z > 5.
Significance. A well-vetted catalog of this size in the southern hemisphere would be a valuable resource for 4MOST/ChANGES and for studies of early supermassive black-hole growth and reionization. The multi-band selection approach is in principle capable of separating high-z quasars from brown dwarfs and stars, but the current validation leaves the actual purity and completeness of the released catalog unquantified.
major comments (3)
- [Abstract and validation section] The spectroscopic validation consists of only six observed candidates (three confirmed at z > 5). This sample is too small to constrain the false-positive rate across the full 6104-candidate catalog; without mock catalogs, control fields, or larger statistics, the claim that the BIC > 0 and F-test > 10 cuts yield low contamination remains untested.
- [SED fitting methodology] No description is given of how the quasar and brown-dwarf SED templates were constructed, calibrated, or selected, nor of the precise implementation of the fitting code, error propagation, or handling of upper limits. These details are required to assess whether the reported BIC and F-test values are robust.
- [Selection criteria] The specific thresholds BIC > 0 and F-test > 10 are presented without justification, sensitivity tests, or comparison to alternative cuts. It is therefore unclear whether these values are optimal or merely post-hoc choices that maximize the reported sample size.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] The abstract and text should explicitly state the total number of sources that entered the SED-fitting stage before the final cuts, to allow readers to evaluate the overall selection efficiency.
- [Figures and tables] Figure captions and table headers should clarify which photometric bands contribute to the minimum-seven-band requirement and how non-detections are treated in the fitting.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their detailed and constructive report. We have addressed each major comment below and revised the manuscript to improve clarity, add missing methodological details, and better contextualize the limitations of the current validation. The catalog remains a candidate list intended for future 4MOST follow-up rather than a fully validated sample.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Abstract and validation section] The spectroscopic validation consists of only six observed candidates (three confirmed at z > 5). This sample is too small to constrain the false-positive rate across the full 6104-candidate catalog; without mock catalogs, control fields, or larger statistics, the claim that the BIC > 0 and F-test > 10 cuts yield low contamination remains untested.
Authors: We agree that the spectroscopic sample of six targets is too small to provide a statistically robust estimate of the false-positive rate or overall purity for the full catalog. This was a pilot program to demonstrate feasibility ahead of the larger 4MOST campaign. In the revised manuscript we have removed any implication of quantified low contamination, added an explicit limitations paragraph in the validation section, and included a forward-looking statement on planned mock-catalog work to assess completeness and purity once larger statistics become available. revision: partial
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Referee: [SED fitting methodology] No description is given of how the quasar and brown-dwarf SED templates were constructed, calibrated, or selected, nor of the precise implementation of the fitting code, error propagation, or handling of upper limits. These details are required to assess whether the reported BIC and F-test values are robust.
Authors: We apologize for the omission. The revised manuscript now contains a dedicated subsection (3.2) describing the templates: quasar SEDs are based on the Vanden Berk et al. (2001) composite extended with power-law continua and emission-line adjustments for z > 4.5; brown-dwarf templates are taken from the SpeX Prism Spectral Libraries and scaled to the relevant temperature range. The fitting code is a custom chi-squared minimizer written in Python; photometric errors are propagated directly into the likelihood, and non-detections are treated as 3-sigma upper limits by setting the model flux to the limit value when it exceeds the observed flux. These additions allow readers to reproduce the BIC and F-test calculations. revision: yes
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Referee: [Selection criteria] The specific thresholds BIC > 0 and F-test > 10 are presented without justification, sensitivity tests, or comparison to alternative cuts. It is therefore unclear whether these values are optimal or merely post-hoc choices that maximize the reported sample size.
Authors: We acknowledge that the original text did not justify the exact numerical thresholds. In the revision we have added a new subsection (4.3) that presents sensitivity tests: we show how the number of retained candidates varies when BIC is stepped from -5 to +5 and F-test from 5 to 20, and we compare the resulting samples against a pure color-cut selection. The chosen values BIC > 0 and F-test > 10 emerge as a reasonable compromise that keeps the catalog large enough for 4MOST while rejecting the majority of obvious stellar and brown-dwarf contaminants; the tests are now documented so readers can judge the trade-offs. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: catalog is defined by explicit external-template SED cuts with no self-referential reduction
full rationale
The paper constructs its catalog by combining public photometric surveys, applying morphological/color pre-cuts, then fitting standard quasar and brown-dwarf templates and retaining objects that meet fixed statistical thresholds (BIC > 0, F-test > 10, ≥7 bands). None of these steps reduces the final list to a fitted parameter or prior result by construction; the thresholds are chosen externally rather than derived from the data they select. No self-citation is invoked to justify uniqueness or an ansatz, and no prediction is made from a subset fit. The limited spectroscopic follow-up is an external check, not part of any internal derivation chain. This is a standard selection pipeline whose output is independent of its inputs.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (4)
- BIC threshold =
> 0
- F-test threshold =
> 10
- Minimum photometric bands =
7
- Redshift range =
4.5 < z < 7
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Quasar SED templates accurately represent the multi-band photometry of true high-redshift quasars
- domain assumption Brown dwarf SED templates adequately represent the main class of photometric contaminants
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