Asymptotic height of Plancherel random trees
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The pith
Plancherel random trees with n vertices have height H_n such that H_n over log n converges in probability to an explicit constant c star of 2.
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Core claim
For the family of random trees T_n of theta, the height H_n satisfies that H_n over log n converges in probability to the constant c star of theta. In the Plancherel case theta equals 2 this yields the precise asymptotic growth rate. The constant itself is characterized by a variational principle attached to the branching random walk with logarithmic displacements that arises from the Poisson-Dirichlet process.
What carries the argument
The embedding of Ewens fragmentation trees into a branching random walk whose steps are logarithmic displacements drawn from a Poisson-Dirichlet distribution.
Load-bearing premise
Plancherel random trees can be identified with Ewens fragmentation trees that exhibit a sharp threshold phenomenon for their height.
What would settle it
Direct simulation of Plancherel random trees for n on the order of one million or larger, followed by checking whether the observed ratio of height to log n stabilizes near the predicted numerical value of c star of 2.
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We study a natural analogue of Ulam's problem for random rooted trees distributed according to a Plancherel-type measure. This probability measure is closely related to the classical Plancherel measure on integer partitions. For a Plancherel random tree $T_n$ with $n$ vertices, we investigate the asymptotic behavior of its height $H_n$, defined as the maximal distance from the root to a leaf. We prove that this height grows logarithmically. More precisely, there is a one-parameter family of random trees $(T_n(\theta))_{n \in \mathbb{N}}$ indexed by $\theta>0$ such that $\frac{H_n}{\log n}$ converges in probability to $c_\star(\theta)$, where $c_\star(\theta)$ is an explicit constant depending on the parameter $\theta$. The case of Plancherel trees corresponds to the parameter $\theta=2$. The proof is based on the fact that the Plancherel random trees can be viewed as Ewens fragmentation trees, for which the height exhibits a sharp threshold phenomenon. An upper bound is obtained via $s$-mass functionals and contraction estimates, while the lower bound is derived by embedding the model into a branching random walk with logarithmic displacements governed by a Poisson--Dirichlet distribution. The constant $c_\star(\theta)$ is characterized through a variational principle associated with this branching random walk.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript proves that the height H_n of Plancherel random trees T_n on n vertices satisfies H_n / log n converging in probability to an explicit constant c_*(2). The result is obtained by identifying the Plancherel measure with Ewens fragmentation trees at parameter θ=2 (Section 2), deriving the limsup via s-mass contraction estimates (Lemma 3.4), and the liminf via embedding the log-mass process into a branching random walk whose displacements follow the Poisson-Dirichlet(2) law (Proposition 4.1), with the limiting constant characterized by a variational principle on the BRW maximum (Theorem 5.2).
Significance. If the central claims hold, the paper resolves the logarithmic height asymptotics for Plancherel random trees, furnishing an explicit constant via a variational principle that extends Ulam's problem to this measure. The embedding into a BRW with Poisson-Dirichlet displacements and the resulting variational characterization constitute a clear methodological strength, as they rely on established properties of the PD process and yield a falsifiable, computable limit.
minor comments (2)
- [Introduction] Introduction: the one-parameter family T_n(θ) is introduced only in the abstract and main theorem; a self-contained definition via the Ewens sampling formula or the associated fragmentation process should appear before the statement of the result.
- [Theorem 5.2] Theorem 5.2: while the variational principle for the BRW maximum is standard, the explicit form of the rate function induced by the Poisson-Dirichlet(2) displacement law is not recalled; adding the relevant expression would improve readability.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their positive summary of the manuscript, recognition of its methodological contributions, and recommendation for minor revision. No specific major comments were raised in the report.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; derivation self-contained
full rationale
The paper proves the Plancherel-Ewens correspondence independently in Section 2 via RSK and permutation cycles. Upper bound uses s-mass contraction (Lemma 3.4) and lower bound embeds into BRW with PD(2) increments (Prop. 4.1), then applies standard large-deviation analysis (Thm. 5.2) for the variational constant c_*(θ). All steps rely on external properties of Poisson-Dirichlet processes and fragmentation trees; no step reduces by definition, fit, or self-citation chain to the target height limit. The result is not forced by its own inputs.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- domain assumption Plancherel random trees can be viewed as Ewens fragmentation trees
- domain assumption The height process under the Poisson-Dirichlet branching random walk admits a variational characterization for its speed
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